The New “What did you do with your Z today” (with off topic replies)

JNews86

These people are retarded. They immediately show it in the 1st sentence.

They don't even know what constitutional rights are. Show me in the constitution where it says abortion is a right? It isn't which is why it was left up to the states as per the 10th amendment

I am so tired of having to correct people on this too. Legit got into a several day argument with someone who was a fkn blockhead and wouldn't admit to being wrong. Even had someone who was is a friend that no longer is after blocking me because she couldn't handle being wrong about it either. She got pretty mad when I told her not to worry since she can still murder kids in her state.

MZ DAIZY

I'm a pro choice conservative. Liberals killing their future liberals is fine with me. Have at it. Just don't expect the taxpayers to pay for your favorite choice of birth control.

And I totally agree, abortion was never a constitutional right. Why these clowns keep insisting it is, is beyond me.

If you don't like your States laws, move! Nobody is saying you can't kill your baby in another state. It's just "inconvenient". Too bad. Deal with it.

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filip00

I agree and disagree with this. In most of the world, abortion is legal, for various reasons. A woman may have been raped, the fetus might have deformities, the birth might kill the woman, etc. There are very reasonable reasons why someone might want to "kill the child". I'm putting this in quotes because fetus is not yet a child. It could be though.

But yeah, you got a good point also saying that there is a double standard with "my body my choice" when you compare abortions with the covid vaccine. It is a double standard.

MZ DAIZY

I’m. Not going to get too deep into this subject due to the strong feelings on both sides. All I’ll say about abortion is…

it’s not (and never was) a Constitutional right.
It shouldn’t be taxpayer funded.
It is not illegal for certain exceptions in any State I know of. (rape, incest, etc.)
If it has a heartbeat, it’s not a fetus anymore.
Late term abortion is murder.

Just my

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vtec to vvel

esp. the bolded part.

filip00

I don't know where did you read that a heartbeat means it's not a fetus anymore. It is very much still a fetus.

Late term abortion is not murder, because spontaneous abortions never result in a funeral because.....the child was never there in the first place.
You can disagree all you want, the world has 195+ countries, and USA is just one of them. And if USA has its own definition of the abortion, it doesn't mean that 194+ other countries have this. Same goes for your constitution. I agree and am happy for whatever your people have chosen, and I'm also happy that each country has their own constitutions.

MZ DAIZY

I'm not going to dive too deep here, but a brief history lesson.

Roe v Wade was an unconstitutional law. Our Supreme court just ruled it so and returned the powers back to the States (50 of them). The federal government never should have overstepped the States own Constitution. It was overreach.

If you don't like your States laws, you can:
1. Vote for people who will change those laws. It's why we have State elections.
2. Move to a State that aligns with your preferred choice of birth control.
3. Have your abortion in another State that will gladly do it.

All the Court did was give those choices back to individuals of the STATES. It's really not a big deal, but don't tell certain people that. Contrary to what these people tell you, it's not illegal to have an abortion in the US. They're letting the majority decide on the issue instead of 9 partisan judges.

And thats what makes this Country the best in the world. For now, anyway.

It doesn't concern me what people do in other parts of the world. I don't live there so I have no say. Oh, and I don't believe taxpayers should be paying for birth control and I also think convicted sex offenders should be chemically castrated. Or executed. I'm good either way.

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blackcherry20

Well stated.
Federal government needs to

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filip00

I'm not even arguing with you. I only said a few pages ago that I agree and disagree with you and explained why. Also, not a bad idea to look at the rest of the world once in a while, you could learn a thing or two, regardless if you're living in the best country in the world or not.

vtec to vvel

There's many opinions on this.

Just because there is no funeral doesn't mean it's not murder. You don't need one and the other to equate to anything.

People/states/countries may have different laws, but universally, I think we can all agree that once a fetus has a heartbeat, this is the inception of life. Though this fetus does not have the ability to think/make decisions for itself, it is very much so a living being, and to end its life by another could/should be seen as murder.

And the argument for pro-abortion from rape/incest/etc. is a very very small percentage compared to other reasons for abortion:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...on/1211175001/

"Just 1% of women obtain an abortion because they became pregnant through rape, and less than 0.5% do so because of incest, according to the Guttmacher Institute."

MZ DAIZY

Glad someone else is taking the baton. I’m not interested in getting into another p1ssing match over a subject I really don’t care about.

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FL 4Motion

Definitely agree about not being taxpayer funded, I view it as a medical procedure up to a point in most cases and someone’s elective medical procedures should be self funded.

As far as not being a constitutional right, no it’s not explicitly stated as a right in the constitution vis a vis firearms, speech etc. But, it imo falls under being an unenumerated right ie it’s a right guaranteed in the constitution not explicitly stated but in order for someone to have personal freedom it is covered.

We all reasonably expect that we have autonomy over our bodies and medical care as adults. That’s not explicitly stated in the constitution but it’s not a stretch to say it is covered by the same, can’t have life, liberty and the persuit of happiness if someone else forces or denies you medical care that you can pay for.

MZ DAIZY

Like forcing someone to inject an experimental drug into their bodies or lose their job and health insurance?

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FL 4Motion

I agree 100%.

The Covid vaccines had EUA (emergency use authorization), that means that the phase 1-3 trials that can take YEARS were not completed and/or skipped.

In a situation like this if we had areial easily transmissible Ebola as our pandemic (god forbid), then facing a 50-90% mortality rate, forcing us all to get vaccinated would have been the lesser of two evils. And frankly almost no one would be complaining bc the disease is so deadly.

However, Covid is not Ebola. It only has a 2% mortality rate give or take, it’s comparable to the flu but just way more transmissible.

In this situation, the one we actually faced/continue to face, mandatory rushed to market vaccines don’t make sense other than from a capitalist pharmaceutical company making boatloads of $$ perspective.

The federal government overreacted re: mandatory vaccines and what worries me is if the next pandemic actually IS something catastrophic, people won’t get vaccinated bc they don’t trust the govt etc.

MZ DAIZY

One of my favorite comebacks is "my body, my choice?"

Ok, then shut your mouth when I refuse to put an experimental drug in "MY" body.

You should hear the sky screaming when I drop that bomb. Triggered!

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