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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY The Rouge's lease is up in June. I have a $30,000 buyout. Will have about 15,000 miles on it then. I'm curious how this is

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Old 09-16-2023, 12:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The Rouge's lease is up in June. I have a $30,000 buyout. Will have about 15,000 miles on it then. I'm curious how this is going to play out.

Will they give me more for it? Will $30,000 be a bargain and I buy it? I hate the unknown...
Did you only do a year lease? Seems like you JUST sold the Z and got the Rogue.

And I'm curious about this as well. Never leased a car before and wondering how this would all work.
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Did you only do a year lease? Seems like you JUST sold the Z and got the Rogue.

And I'm curious about this as well. Never leased a car before and wondering how this would all work.
18 Month lease. Got it the end of Dec last year.

The only thing I’m sure of is dealer will try to screw me.
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Nope, expect car prices to go up even further.

The Good: Not all automakers are affected by the strike and only pertains to the American car manufacturers. Most foreign automakers are not unionized, so this wouldn't apply to them, though they could possibly capitalize on this.

The Bad: Expect for car prices to continue to rise on top of already inflated pricing. Car prices have elevated due to supply shortages and this shortage will only get worse. Keep in mind that semiconductors require Neon gas to be produced, and 70% of the global supply comes from Ukraine, which is currently fighting a war, so there is a good chance they are not focused on Neon gas production.

The Ugly: Expect for elevated car prices to stay inflated, paired with elevated interest rates. Unless you are paying cash, you are paying alot more to borrow only for less value/buying power.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/15/busin...uaw/index.html

"Buying a car? What the UAW strike means – and doesn’t mean – for auto sales"
I can’t help but think this strike has something to do with EV’s. Rusty just quoted that it takes 40% less time to make them. That’s a lot of man hours lost forever.
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I can’t help but think this strike has something to do with EV’s. Rusty just quoted that it takes 40% less time to make them. That’s a lot of man hours lost forever.
We, as a society, are not ready yet to simply switch over completely to EV. Too many wrinkles to iron out. I'm sure it will get phased in, but over time.

People, IMO, also are not ready to completely switch over.

https://www.fox13news.com/news/heres...ectric-vehicle

"A Florida lawmaker has introduced a bill that would require electric vehicle owners in the state to pay extra fees when renewing their vehicle registration."

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We, as a society, are not ready yet to simply switch over completely to EV. Too many wrinkles to iron out. I'm sure it will get phased in, but over time.

People, IMO, also are not ready to completely switch over.

https://www.fox13news.com/news/heres...ectric-vehicle

"A Florida lawmaker has introduced a bill that would require electric vehicle owners in the state to pay extra fees when renewing their vehicle registration."

I couldn’t switch to an EV if I wanted to. I have 200 amp service coming in and not a breaker space to add.

I can’t imagine what it would cost to upgrade my service and add a new breaker box.

Comes with living in the sticks.
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I can’t help but think this strike has something to do with EV’s. Rusty just quoted that it takes 40% less time to make them. That’s a lot of man hours lost forever.
The strike will lead to more automation on the line resulting in fewer jobs. Just seen in California where a bill is awaiting the governor's signature. It will raise the fast food workers wage to $20.00 an hour, plus a few other thing in the bill will raise the cost. This will lead to more automation in Micky D's. Leading to fewer jobs.
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The strike will lead to more automation on the line resulting in fewer jobs. Just seen in California where a bill is awaiting the governor's signature. It will raise the fast food workers wage to $20.00 an hour, plus a few other thing in the bill will raise the cost. This will lead to more automation in Micky D's. Leading to fewer jobs.
My wife and I were talking about that last night. $20 an hour to flip burgers is a damn good gig! Sign us up!

I was an offset printing press operator. Made a good living until technology made us obsolete. It doesn’t take skill to push a big green PRINT button.
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The strike will lead to more automation on the line resulting in fewer jobs. Just seen in California where a bill is awaiting the governor's signature. It will raise the fast food workers wage to $20.00 an hour, plus a few other thing in the bill will raise the cost. This will lead to more automation in Micky D's. Leading to fewer jobs.
The issue with raising minimum wage, esp. during inflation, is that this will kill off many jobs. Companies aren't going to take a hit on their bottom line and CEO's aren't going to take a lower bonus, much less a pay cut, so the only option is to limit workforce overhead.
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I can’t help but think this strike has something to do with EV’s. Rusty just quoted that it takes 40% less time to make them. That’s a lot of man hours lost forever.
Automation and robotics are quickly making a lot of jobs obsolete/much less manpower intensive. The writer’s strike in Hollywood is n part bc they’re afraid chtgpt will kill off their jobs. (And they’re not totally wrong).

Auto manufacturers are scrambling to try and force people to adopt a subscription based car ownership paradigm since EVs require so little maintenance and are less prone to costly repairs, the auto companies are losing/going to lose big time on the back end post sale.

Get ready for heated seats, only $30 per month etc.

I’ve been noticing a shift over the last 15 years, especially over the last decade where ownership of “stuff” has been made to seem passé and not necessary. But fundamentally, privately ownership of transportation, home, investments, etc is the bedrock, not just of capitalism, but of a free society. You can’t build wealth if you pay rent for all your sh1t.

Getting back to the car stuff, I’ll be fvcking pissed if I buy a car and have to pay a subscription fee to unlock features I paid for. Apparently Tesla (surprise surprise) already does this crap.

It’s a way for ev cars to bring in money post sale that’s been lost due to less maintenance that ICE cars need. Shitty.
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Automation and robotics are quickly making a lot of jobs obsolete/much less manpower intensive. The writer’s strike in Hollywood is n part bc they’re afraid chtgpt will kill off their jobs. (And they’re not totally wrong).

Auto manufacturers are scrambling to try and force people to adopt a subscription based car ownership paradigm since EVs require so little maintenance and are less prone to costly repairs, the auto companies are losing/going to lose big time on the back end post sale.

Get ready for heated seats, only $30 per month etc.

I’ve been noticing a shift over the last 15 years, especially over the last decade where ownership of “stuff” has been made to seem passé and not necessary. But fundamentally, privately ownership of transportation, home, investments, etc is the bedrock, not just of capitalism, but of a free society. You can’t build wealth if you pay rent for all your sh1t.

Getting back to the car stuff, I’ll be fvcking pissed if I buy a car and have to pay a subscription fee to unlock features I paid for. Apparently Tesla (surprise surprise) already does this crap.

It’s a way for ev cars to bring in money post sale that’s been lost due to less maintenance that ICE cars need. Shitty.
You’re absolutely right about this “subscription” service.

I own a legit copy of the original Adobe Photoshop that still works on an old Apple IICI I bought in the late eighties/early nineties. Has 8 MEGS of ram and a 256K hard drive. Cost me $4500 with a scanner and a 25” monitor. Also included Photoshop, illustrator and quark express.

That’s right MEG and K!! LOL!

Flash to today, a copy of Photoshop costs $10 a month. I called them and asked how much to buy? They told me they don’t sell copies anymore. Subscription only.
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Getting back to the car stuff, I’ll be fvcking pissed if I buy a car and have to pay a subscription fee to unlock features I paid for. Apparently Tesla (surprise surprise) already does this crap.
The Rogue has auto start. They gave me a 6 month trial to Nissan Connect. It also has auto start from your phone which obviously works from anywhere instead of just line of sight.

$70 a year. Yea, thanks, but no thanks. There aren’t going to be to many times I need to start the car miles away from it.

There’s also a send to vehicle directions feature, but how many times a year am I going to use that?
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https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/15/econo...ber/index.html

"Despite rising gas prices, Americans feel more optimistic about inflation’s future"

Holy sh!t people, make up your minds! One day, everyone is feeling optimistic, the next day, they are worried.
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