The New “What did you do with your Z today” (with off topic replies) XXXX

eastwest2300 · 04-27-2023, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel

The market has abruptly shifted in terms of cost, price, and the value of money, and COVID was a major factor in addition to inflation. Before COVID, the pricing norm went up slowly and incrementally compared to what happened in the past couple of years. $1 say 3 years ago is probably equivalent to close to $.60 to $.70 today, whereas this kind of shift 20 years ago took more time. Maxima's in the $50K range is unfortunately the new norm. Who would have thought the base Z would start close to $70K?

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/02/cars/...-dg/index.html

"This is one of the worst times to buy a car in decades."

the base 375z is almost $70,000?

eastwest2300 · 04-27-2023, 04:54 PM

thats gotta be with market adjustment bs, im on nissan's website right now and they're about $41,000

still f'n crazy.

eastwest2300 · 04-27-2023, 05:18 PM

ok, so being fair and honest, i just looked into the new 375z..

the only cool thing that I saw that you'd have to pay for (roughly $500), it doesn't come standard.. you can get a "virtual" key.. which gives you the ability to lock/unlock your doors AND remote start...

nissan definitely nickel and dimes you for everything, and after looking at a lot of their accessories, a lot of that stuff should come standard.. but i digress.

eastwest2300 · 04-27-2023, 05:22 PM

ohh, forgot to mention, for well qualified buyers, 7.65% interest rate...

ouch! and if you decide to lease (which I would never do personally).. you get 10,000 miles per year..

vtec to vvel · 04-27-2023, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

thats gotta be with market adjustment bs, im on nissan's website right now and they're about $41,000

still f'n crazy.

What the website says and what the individual dealers are charging are two different stories.

And yes, close to $70K. I saw one in person at a dealer a few months back, and it was listed at $66K.

vtec to vvel · 04-27-2023, 05:33 PM

Not sure why everyone seems to be surprised by the costs. The media has been heavily covering rate increases. What did people think was going to happen?

MZ DAIZY · 04-27-2023, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

wowwwww

I would have laughed in his/her face.

I was too speechless to even laugh.

vtec to vvel · 04-27-2023, 05:43 PM

https://www.fox13news.com/news/gen-z...-challenge-you

"Gen Z hardest generation to work with, according to survey: ‘They lack discipline‘ and 'like to challenge you’."

"A number of managers also agreed that Gen Z workers lack communication skills, effort, motivation and even technological skills."

How?? I thought they would be the most technologically advanced?

"And one of the top reasons that GenZers are being canned from their jobs, according to the April survey, is that they are 'too easily offended.'"

"Of respondents who say Gen Z is the most difficult generation to work with, 34% say they prefer to work with Millennials, 30% with Gen X, and 4% with Baby Boomers," the survey concluded.

Good job Millennials! We rock!

vtec to vvel · 04-27-2023, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

ohh, forgot to mention, for well qualified buyers, 7.65% interest rate...

ouch! and if you decide to lease (which I would never do personally).. you get 10,000 miles per year..

People complain about 8% home and car loans. Interest rates say in the 80's/90's was close to 20% for homes loans and near 15% for car loans. And mind you, incomes were much lower then compared to now, even with inflation factored in.

vtec to vvel · 04-27-2023, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY

I was too speechless to even laugh.

10 years from now, we will all look back at this post and say "Holy sh!t that was a good deal!"

MZ DAIZY · 04-27-2023, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

ohh, forgot to mention, for well qualified buyers, 7.65% interest rate...

ouch! and if you decide to lease (which I would never do personally).. you get 10,000 miles per year..

Yup. Leased the Rouge. $45,000 vehicle. $4000 down, 18 months 15,000 miles. $535 a month. 12,000 a year mileage was an extra $80 a month. one of the main reasons went with it is because they blew me away with what they gave me on the Z. At this rate the Rogue is going to sit for the last two months of the lease to keep it under the mileage.

Wife loves it so far, but I think I’m going with a Mazda CX5 next year. Lots more bang for the buck.

eastwest2300 · 04-27-2023, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel

What the website says and what the individual dealers are charging are two different stories.

And yes, close to $70K. I saw one in person at a dealer a few months back, and it was listed at $66K.

i agree with you.

eastwest2300 · 04-27-2023, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY

Yup. Leased the Rouge. $45,000 vehicle. $4000 down, 18 months 15,000 miles. $535 a month. 12,000 a year mileage was an extra $80 a month. one of the main reasons went with it is because they blew me away with what they gave me on the Z. At this rate the Rogue is going to sit for the last two months of the lease to keep it under the mileage.

Wife loves it so far, but I think I’m going with a Mazda CX5 next year. Lots more bang for the buck.

yeah that mileage sh1t is for the birds, although I dont think I've ever averaged 12k miles a year, but i guess thats the average for most folks.

vtec to vvel · 04-27-2023, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

yeah that mileage sh1t is for the birds, although I dont think I've ever averaged 12k miles a year, but i guess thats the average for most folks.

Industry standard is 15K miles from what I was told by Geico. We put maybe 7K miles a year on the wifey's car. Z got maybe 200 miles the past 2 years from being out of commission.

MZ DAIZY · 04-27-2023, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel

The market has abruptly shifted in terms of cost, price, and the value of money, and COVID was a major factor in addition to inflation. Before COVID, the pricing norm went up slowly and incrementally compared to what happened in the past couple of years. $1 say 3 years ago is probably equivalent to close to $.60 to $.70 today, whereas this kind of shift 20 years ago took more time. Maxima's in the $50K range is unfortunately the new norm. Who would have thought the base Z would start close to $70K?

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/02/cars/...-dg/index.html

"This is one of the worst times to buy a car in decades."

No Joke, Jack!

04-27-2023, 04:54 PM	#10847 (permalink)
eastwest2300 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: South FL Posts: 90,824 Drives: '16QX70/'21 Supra3.0 Rep Power: 2684550	thats gotta be with market adjustment bs, im on nissan's website right now and they're about $41,000 still f'n crazy. FL 4Motion likes this. __________________ Infiniti QX70 & Toyota Supra 3.0 Premium

04-27-2023, 05:18 PM	#10848 (permalink)
eastwest2300 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: South FL Posts: 90,824 Drives: '16QX70/'21 Supra3.0 Rep Power: 2684550	ok, so being fair and honest, i just looked into the new 375z.. the only cool thing that I saw that you'd have to pay for (roughly $500), it doesn't come standard.. you can get a "virtual" key.. which gives you the ability to lock/unlock your doors AND remote start... nissan definitely nickel and dimes you for everything, and after looking at a lot of their accessories, a lot of that stuff should come standard.. but i digress. FL 4Motion likes this. __________________ Infiniti QX70 & Toyota Supra 3.0 Premium

04-27-2023, 05:22 PM	#10849 (permalink)
eastwest2300 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: South FL Posts: 90,824 Drives: '16QX70/'21 Supra3.0 Rep Power: 2684550	ohh, forgot to mention, for well qualified buyers, 7.65% interest rate... ouch! and if you decide to lease (which I would never do personally).. you get 10,000 miles per year.. FL 4Motion and MZ DAIZY like this. __________________ Infiniti QX70 & Toyota Supra 3.0 Premium

04-27-2023, 05:33 PM	#10851 (permalink)
vtec to vvel A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: 813 Posts: 3,909 Drives: 13 Z Rep Power: 502909	Not sure why everyone seems to be surprised by the costs. The media has been heavily covering rate increases. What did people think was going to happen? FL 4Motion and MZ DAIZY like this. __________________ Don't like what I post? Too bad. I really don't give a sh!t

04-27-2023, 05:43 PM	#10853 (permalink)
vtec to vvel A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: 813 Posts: 3,909 Drives: 13 Z Rep Power: 502909	https://www.fox13news.com/news/gen-z...-challenge-you "Gen Z hardest generation to work with, according to survey: ‘They lack discipline‘ and 'like to challenge you’." "A number of managers also agreed that Gen Z workers lack communication skills, effort, motivation and even technological skills." How?? I thought they would be the most technologically advanced? "And one of the top reasons that GenZers are being canned from their jobs, according to the April survey, is that they are 'too easily offended.'" "Of respondents who say Gen Z is the most difficult generation to work with, 34% say they prefer to work with Millennials, 30% with Gen X, and 4% with Baby Boomers," the survey concluded. Good job Millennials! We rock! FL 4Motion, Rusty and MZ DAIZY like this. __________________ Don't like what I post? Too bad. I really don't give a sh!t

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