Agreed!

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It's wasn't all bad. I thoroughly enjoyed the 70s - a time when even an ugly guy such as myself could get laid. And we didn't have to worry about AIDS - a shot of penicillin was all you needed. I wrote my first "Hello World" program. First "serious" girlfriend, first car, hair down to my waist, first joint, etc, etc.

But it wasn't all good either. Heroin was running rampant and I lost several ppl I cared about to The Needle. Others lost their lives in Viet Nam (or came back really farked up, physically and/or mentally). While great strides had been made on the Civil Rights front, minorities were still very much discriminated against (I can remember seeing "White Only" and "Colored Entrance" signs). No personal computers, no Intertubes. And the list goes on.

Today has it's good points and it has it's bad points - just like every other generation down through the ages.

Edit: Thanks to those who have participated in this thread for keeping to Sociology and not wandering into Politics. And for keeping the conversation civil. On many other sites, this convo would have gone downhill fast.

We are living in the greatest time period in the history of mankind. The shìt we've accomplished as a species allows far more people to live in far more comfort than ever before. More people have access to clean resources and medical care than ever before.

That being said, there's still a lot of shitty stuff going on in the world. That's not going to stop happening regardless of how much our society advances and evolves. We have to do our best to acknowledge and reject the people that are fuckìng things up for the rest of us. Alas, money and power make that tough.

I found out earlier on here in another thread because I am white and from the South I am racist. To avoid the conflict, I have not participated.

In a nutshell its never gonna be a perfect world!

But we have the power on our hands to make our world worth living and better.

Its just some people choose otherwise.

The world has bleed so much because of our inequities and stubbornness.

The day of retribution is coming!

Poor, rich, healthy, sick , young and old., white, black, brown, yellow will be judged! There is no escape...if you know what I’m saying.

No politics no religion!

It was written so it should be done!

Yeah. I'm told the same thing sometimes. I've even heard that Black people can't be racist.

Don't let the bozos keep you from speaking your mind. Consider the source and ignore it.

LMAO, I guess that makes one by heritage. You and me are brothers and not racist. The problem we Americans have is we do not know how to have a conversation about race without someone making it about racism. Those words were spoken by Charles Barkley and he is spot on.

Besides I love White people or at least White women as both my wives have been White! LMAO

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I heard and old country western song this morning that I had not heard in forever. Th choirs is: God is great beer is good and people are crazy. Those few words sums it up!

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I knew you where my brother first time I saw you!!!


You just got your genes fully baked and mine half cooked thats why Im only 4’10”

And your 6 feet and 8 inches below!

I wish I have a black mamba so the whites wouldn’t laugh at my pet lizard tail.

Why can't this just be about good people and bad people. The good people are protesting the bad cops actions while demanding reform and the bad people are using it as a reason go loot stores and run a muck.

There is definitely racism in this country. The problem is that the word racist has been used haphazardly in the past several years that its meaning has been diluted. You do something that another person perceives as wrong, and theyll call you a racist, bigot, etc...Its used so much that it convinces some that its the number one problem in this country. I honestly dont think that its as rampant as some would make you believe.

They are looting Champaign IL at 3 this afternoon. BLM is telling people to bring friends, family and bricks :icon14:

That is not a protest, that is inciting mob action. :shakes head:

WTF 2020! The train has run off the tracks, down a ravine, into a dumpster and is fully engulfed before June :shakes head:

First Covid19 then this nationwide looting.....let's just combine the two....send these looters to that Wuhan lab in a cage, 2 wrongs will make it right in this case.

Sorry I am just pissed, and feel sorry for the small business owners.

On scheduled they started looting the mall at 3. I'm watching a live stream. it's about to turn into a **** show. Not Philly style but it's 40 min from my hide out in the middle of nowhere.

fify

What gets me. These mayors that had the most strick virus lock downs. Are letting these idiots roam free. Just watch. There will be a big up turn in coronavirus cases in about 2 weeks. :shakes head:

After the Rodney King riots in LA. We used to joke that it was urban renewal because they burnt down one of the worst parts of the city.

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Having been closed because of the coronavirus. Now to have your business looted and burnt down is just totally wrong. How many will be willing to come back and reopen?

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My avatar is actually a play on my own name. My coworker made a sign for my cubicle at my first office job back in my young days (early 2000’s). I’ve kept it ever since.

In this state Mike Madigans puppet will blame everyone down state because we are all intolerant racist rednecks and those that want to open up the state are to blame for the 2nd wave.

Between the right wing extremist not taking the virus seriously and the inner city folks gathering, I wonder who will get nailed harder.

You forgot the left wing extremist rioters.

Isn't that the same as the inner city folks? Left wing, right wing, both morons to me sorry.

To the white folks that don't think racism exist, you are probably a little racist yourself. To the minorities that think everything is against them, they need to overcome it and stop complaining. There is no free ride, work harder and overcome it.

BTW, to the folks who think there are no racism, maybe they should try to talk to a minority and have them give you examples. I can name you one from yesterday. I was buying a new handgun yesterday. Due to an IT limitation, I couldn't put in a country of birth. Instead of putting one that is closest to reality, I was forced to put in one that matched my ethnicity. I don't think there was any malicious intend from the manager, but I doubt it would happen to someone who is not minority. I didn't get angry at the manager, but these are the kind of things minorities have to deal with.

I don't guess I've met any of these people that don't think racism exists. The biggest racists I've run across don't deny it's existence - they just believe that it is justifiable (or give it a different name, eg, Manifest Destiny). The most oblivious People of White Privilege that I know acknowledge it's existence - they just don't think it's as bad as it really is.

I agree wholeheartedly that there shouldn't be a free ride but why should someone have to work harder to achieve the same result as any other person? Why in the world should anybody have to do ANY work to enjoy the same basic freedoms and rights as anyone else?

Maybe your state is different. I am minority and I have been told many times there is no racism because I am doing okay financially. Have you been asked where you are really from? I used to get that a lot even though my NY/New England accent is horrific.

BTW I don't believe in white privilege either. I think it's just a term some minorities use as an excuse. Some of the most racist incidents I had from childhood were all from minorities.

OK. You have a better view to that type of thing than I do. I don't get that kind of treatment because, well, I'm White.

Maybe we Arkansans are smarter than many people believe and know that discrimination exists. We have plenty of experience at it.

Yes. But because of my strong Southern accent, not my ethnicity. Yeah, not exactly the same thing.

I believe. I've seen it in action. Yes, it is sometimes used as an excuse, but not always.

Racism knows no boundaries. All races, colors, creeds, etc have their share of bigots.

Problem solved...

https://scontent.fyto1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...b0&oe=5EF8E193

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In light of the new autopsy report and other evidence that I have seen, I can now say that I believe - not just think - that the officer is guilty of murder.


"... with Liberty and Justice for ALL." - US Pledge of Allegiance (my emphasis)

If anyone is going to loot Tire Rack let me know I will place my order. JK!

A Minneapolis Target store was destroyed by “Protesters”. Photos show the flooded remains.

https://www.businessinsider.com/minn...e-floyd-2020-5

Rumor has it the only things left in the entire store were work boots and Father’s Day cards. :stirthepot:

There was a doubt?

With the rioting and looting in one of our cities here, the city had to shut down all their covid testing centers. I think all the rioters and looters should be injected with the coronavirus and then be kept in an encampment without medical aid.

Not so much doubt as willing to wait for more evidence before condemning someone. A video, out of context, can be misleading. Apparently the vids that are circulating are spot on.

Lol sick burn :owned:

Just a tidbit from what is common practice with trappers when they have animal caught in a trap and they don't want shoot it because it will ruin the pelt. The use a catch pole like ones you see dog catchers use and and place the noose around the critters neck tighten th noonse and pin the animal to the ground choking it. Then they stand on the critters chest. Standing on chest reduces the ability of the animal to take and expand its lungs to full capacity. Each breath or attempted breath further collapses the lung and reduces its ability to inflate. The animal suffocates and dies.

This is exactly what happened to Mr. Floyd. The kneeled on his back collapsing his lungs while one of the kneeled on his neck restricting his airway. This is exactly what what the coroner described. Mr. George Floyd was murdered pure and simple! I don't need any more evidence than has been presented as I have over 20 years of investigating wildlife homicide or poaching. There absolutely no difference in the investigation of the killing of a deer or a person!

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Here's my 2 cents, take it for what it's worth. Note I'm from Canada, parents are Indian and came here in the early 70s.

Racism always has and will exist, therefore the fight for against it will always go on as well. It's like hot and cold, light and darkness etc. This world is one of duality, you cannot have bad without good and good without the bad, that's just the way the way it is in my eyes. Is racism acceptable? No, it is not, regardless of what form it is.

The Situation

The way the cop had his knee on the man was wrong. Why so much pressure? He should have been charged with first degree murder, he knew what he was doing. The cops around him who refused to check the man's status in terms of health while pinned messed up to and should be charged accordingly as well, whether it be with 3rd or 2nd degree murder. The message we should be taking here is no one is above the law whether it be officers, officials or civilians. It applies to us all equally, and that is what needs to be enforced. Letting people get away due to money and ties as made a mockery of the justice system, not only in the U.S but Canada as well.

Protests
Freedom of speech is the greatest gift of all. If you can have a discussion in a civilized, academic and mature manner based on facts and merits then you have something good going on. However not everyone has the mental capacity for this.

You want to protest, go ahead, protest, you have the right to. However, when you start going around looting, advocating violence and so forth, you deserve nothing less than a baton to your head. I don't care what your skin colour or religious beliefs are, if you're disturbing the peace (looting, violence, taking on innocent civilians and destroying peoples livelihoods) you need your *** beat.

I know, for a fact, people are using the BLM movement to carry on inhumane actions which give the movement a bad name. But let's be real here, there are members in that group who advocate for racism towards white people regardless of their political stance etc. It is wrong to say the BLM is completely innocent and there are not members in there with ulterior motives. Are all BLM protesters bad? Hell no. Some are there to push the right message, that is for sure. Same with cops, there are some amazing cops out there and there are those within their ranks who do not protect and serve the people.

You cannot paint an entire ethnicity, religion, group etc with a single brush. That is absurd, it really is. That's like saying all Indian people smell of curry, fun fact, we don't:rofl2:

Racism
I do not promote racism of any kind, hate breeds hate. My mom told me stories of her living in a all white area when growing up here in Canada. Her family was one of the first Indian families in that area. They were called all sort of names, denied all types of opportunities etc. However my mother and her family knew not all white people are like that, that you cannot paint everyone with the same brush.

My mom still has family in the area, they along with the white people all get along just fine! BBQs, invited to family weddings etc. I just hate how white people are made to seem like some sort of racist demons on the media. I've had enough of this "white man bad" bull crap and how they are constantly told to apologize for crap that similar coloured people did to other people of other colours decades or centuries ago. Like wtf is that about?

White privilege? Does it exist? Sure, but not to the extreme the media makes it out to be. I've been treated better by white people than how they treat their own. I've seen brown and black people treat white people bad due to their skin, it's absurd and stupid. To say white people do not experience racism is idiotic as well, anyone that supports that ideology either hasn't travelled the world or is just an idiot. If there is white privilege then there is also brown privilege, black privilege etc.

I always hear how white people are racists etc, sure, there are some that are but not all of them are. Do me a favour, take a trip to India, a land where it is mostly all brown people. You have a damn caste system, where fellow Indians are thrown into categories based on their caste. Everything from marriage to job opportunities revolve around it, and these are people who are the same colour or different shades of it. Can you imagine that crap here? There would be riots everyday. . . Does this make Indian people racists? You tell me. . . What do you say as a white/black person when an Indian parent tells you that you can't marry their daughter/son because of your skin colour? Are you allowed to call them racists? Or is that there right? Dilly of a pickle huh?

Then you have religious differences and people will outright ridicule you and your belief. It never ends. Racism is VERY heavy in parts of Asia, people are just afraid of calling it out because well, then they are racist too! How ironic. Is it a good thing? Of course not, it needs to be changed for the better.

I see people still complain about slavery and use it in their arguments. Slavery was a terrible thing in America and there was a civil war to end it. Apologies have been made and I do not think anything else needs to be said about that time. Recall it in order not to repeat the same mistakes but we should not use it as a "trump card".

The British had India under its thumb, am I going to cry about how my ancestors were rapped and looted? No. That was the past and things happened and now we have to put our best efforts forward to ensure it does not happen to us or anyone again. Am I going to blame Brits today? Pfft, no, why the hell would I do that? The Brits of today are not like the Brits of past trying to spread British imperialism etc. Some people have to let **** go, it may not have been pleasant to read about and for people to go through but the past can't be undone.

It takes little effort to hold a grudge but it takes a big person to forgive and let go. I get people are angry about things but damn, don't riot and leave destruction in your path.

These days you have a different opinion than someone else you are deemed a racists or a nazi, makes no sense and it's the go to card for many people. Which is a pathetic move and sad.

In conclusion

People have the right to protest peacefully. People have the right to be upset. However don't go around being a moron about things.

Not all communities can be painted with the same brush. You have to look at individual actions and then add them up and come to a sum, sort of like an average. When I do that, the good always outweighs the bad, for any group. Racism won't die unless we kill the part of ourselves that feeds it. As long as racism is prevalent I will do my part to fight it on all fronts as any decent person would and should do.

If you are in riot cities be safe, pray as well if that is your thing. We all will get through this injustice, but we have to go through it together and learn from it together, that's how the best of lessons are learned. I just find it sad how humans can find anything to divide ourselves, skin colour being one thing, and we call ourselves the most "intelligent" species on this planet. Sure.

I have a big problem with the 3rd degree murder indictment. But it is understandable considering the circumstances.

The biggest problem with 1st and 2nd degree murder is you have to prove intent. In the case of 1st degree you often need premeditation as well. Sure we all know the cop's intent was to kill Mr. Floyd, but prosecutors felt that placing that decision in the hands of a jury was dangerous. Case in point look at the former DA lady that was looking good for Biden's VP (not a chance in hell now :ugh:) - in Minneapolis under her there were 12 cases of black victims killed by cops that went to a grand jury and didn't even get an indictment. That means they didn't even think an investigation was warranted. That's a problem in Minneapolis that goes beyond the police force :shakes head:

So with the 3rd degree murder charge the prosecutors simply have to prove that placing your knee on someone's neck like that could kill them. That's a slam dunk. Or should be :eekdance:

That post was worth a lot more than two cents. Well said.

Definitely. Better to get a conviction for 3rd than an acquittal for 1st.

If he is not convicted, the last few days are going to look like a day at Disneyland.