Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 3927424)

If they paid their taxes, they get 40-50% pay + $600 a week. For folks making less than $20 an hour, they are going to pretty much get equal pay.

Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 3927487)

If indeed the Chinese created this virus out of a laboratory somewhere in the US.....

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3927496)

Local news this morning. Police are investigating a raise in armed robberies. :icon14:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3927498)

A new study from Stanford Uni. A lot more have the virus then thought.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/coron...ounty-infected

Originally Posted by asht (Post 3927447)

A number of us have started questioning the official figures being published by individual countries and I have to agree somewhat.

Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3927481)

LOL, do you think for one minute that folks who struggle from paycheck to paycheck have a 401k? If you can't file for unemployment, how are you going to collect the Cares act money?

Everybody looks back at the Spanish Flue outbreak for comparison in 1917. Do you remember what came next in the 1920's? It was the Great Depression.

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3927494)

What state you live in? :icon14: Unemployment here here is $600 max rate for 26 weeks. Most won't make that. Toss the gov't money on top of that. How is that going to replace the money that some are 6 figure incomes? That's over $10,000 a month. When your standard of living was based on that income. You have bills to match. The house, cars, kids college, etc.

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3927498)

A new study from Stanford Uni. A lot more have the virus then thought.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/coron...ounty-infected

Originally Posted by DaveZ03 (Post 3927501)

Not sure if you were serious with your assumption on this being lab created, but...

https://www.npr.org/2020/04/14/83410...-clues-in-bats

Originally Posted by JLarson (Post 3927502)

I hope for the sake of the robbers they don't show up at your place, Russ. They'd be collecting what's left using a shovel and a trash bin.

Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 3927569)

No Im not serious and honestly when someone shared me a video of a documentary that speaks about it...btw it was immediately shut down at social media.

I didn’t believe it at all...very hard to verify validity and reliability of all information at this point about covid19.

I don’t even believe the article you posted either..everything is being fabricated.

I just live my life everyday and speak thanksgiving for seeing the sun again.

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 3927572)

There were already rumors of it in January. It's possible that someone bought bats that were used at the lab and ate it.

Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 3927573)

Lol thats a good theory! :tup:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 3927580)

It's the CCP government, it wouldn't surprise me. The lab would use the animals, the company or person that is supposed to dispose of them decided it would be a good idea to make a few bucks at the wet market.

Originally Posted by ZontheRocks (Post 3927587)

There is the possibility of severe lack in safety precautions and imperfect sanitation when working with an infectious disease and leaving the lab.

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 3927580)

It's the CCP government, it wouldn't surprise me. The lab would use the animals, the company or person that is supposed to dispose of them decided it would be a good idea to make a few bucks at the wet market.

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 3927565)

No one knows what the true rate is, but forget about the mortality rate. If we talk about the infected rate, say even 2% or 3%, that's already a lot of people, especially in the span of two months.



I already told you unemployment is available for contract workers. The only ones that can't are under the table people or illegal immigrants. You still haven't answer my question. Even if we didn't go into lockdown and at the rate of the infection, how many people will lose their job anyway and possibly get sick. I already told you most companies are not going to keep their doors open when employees drop like flies. They don't have big enough pockets to pay for their sick leave or the deductible for STD or LTD. STD and LTD are not full pay either.



I filed unemployment in CT. There are programs to avoid immediate problem. Tons of people already elected rent/mortgage deferrals. The whole idea is to ride this out and hope to go back to work once everything is more controlled.



The study got tore down by many experts. There were many holes in that article, but I will give you one that irks me the most. The test kit used was marketed by a Minnesota company, but it was manufactured and sold by a Chinese company. It had one of the least accurate result of any test on the market. There was also problem with the population not random and people behind it had agendas to push.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/04/...ll-an-apology/

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 3927777)

This talks more about it. Not a random population, not peered review, not accurate test kits (I am not trusting any biotech from China sorry). It's been 20 years since I did statistics, I think there are red flags all over it. Regardless, let's watch GA open up the bowling alleys bars and restaurants Monday. They will test it out for us. I wish we could just shut the Delta flights coming out of Atlanta :(


https://www.wired.com/story/new-covi...re-they-right/

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3927783)

Also read tonight that there is 30 different strains of the virus now. I know before there was 9. The more strains. The harder to make a vaccine. :shakes head:

What gets me. They tell us, no need for a mask until about 2 weeks ago. Now you can't go out without one. I've been working my normal schedule of 5 days a week. I work part time at Home Depot. I'm out in the public. No one at the store is sick or tested positive for the virus. Most us feel that if we was going to get it. We would have had it by now. Our sales numbers are up, and foot traffic has stayed about the same. Starting last Sunday. We limit the number of people into the store to 75 at a time. My county has 67 cases, and 3 dead. 90% of the cases are at a couple of nursing homes. A few are outside of them.

Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 3927790)

Whats the total population of your county?
If all can be tested then we can actually see how bad the situation is.
Possibly millions are positive but no symptoms.

Should that be caused for alarm?

Our hospital has 11 positive 8 deaths in the county.

One nursing home alone has 87 cases patients and employees.

Im tired of being shotgun target! I want my life back..,,car meets...races...strippers.:ugh2:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3927791)

There is about 150,000 in my county.

Originally Posted by BettyZ (Post 3927799)

150,000 strippers?! Damn man. How have you not had a heart attack already?

Originally Posted by ZontheRocks (Post 3927564)

Would be nice if the government made decisions to halt required payments on mortgages, vehicle and credit card loans, water and utilities, with payments added to the end of a loan or added pro-rata over future payments.

Begin the conversation for programs for those that won't be able to get back in their jobs prior to the pandemic to address the above in the future.

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3927812)

It won't surprise me when we find out the covid mortality rate isn't that bad (closer to 1% like influenza) but that something like 90% of the world's population contracted it.

Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 3927819)

Italy ...

... the sampling gives a decent estimate.

Don’t forget it’s not just about deaths either, it’s about possible permanent health complications for the recovered as well.

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3927828)

First, Italy is not an analogy for any other country in the world. The high numbers of smokers and elderly population make their statistics essentially useless to the rest of the world.

Secondly, the sampling is still mostly useless when it comes to determining statistics. We need to sample a hell of a lot more people. At this point we are still pretty much flying blind and making guesses as to how things are going to go.

Your last statement is going to be the determining factor of how bad this thing really is IMO. There's got to be dozens variations of the virus based on the varied human responses we are seeing. We still have a lot to learn :eekdance:

Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 3927835)

Fair point about Italy, kinda of was a perfect storm with their population.

I still think we’re going to be looking at around 1% - 2% mortality rate when we finally get good numbers at some point. It’s bad, but it’s still not Ebola bad, if it were, half of us here would be dead by now.

Nevertheless, it’s serious and it’s social disruption factor is off the charts. That aspect may not calm down until there’s a vaccine or everyone just gets used to it, fear of the unknown has def played a big role in this as well.

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3927845)

To be fair, other locations are quickly approaching Italy's rates, which isn't a good sign. Look at Spain and UK and France now. New York is right there, too. I'm not suggesting it won't get that bad. It is early. Who knows where we go from here. That was my main point - we don't really have enough information to make any solid judgments yet. Next summer, I expect we'll have a pretty good understanding of what the virus was doing right now lol.

I was just saying I won't be surprised if the mortality rates are inflated because so many people get infected that aren't ever tested. Testing as many people as possible and research for treatment are the critical things right now. No point in even talking about statistics, frankly. We know they are bad and that's all we need to know right now.

Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 3927858)

More Testing, esp antibody tests and quick turn around infection tests, and research cant come soon enough. Hopefully we see a vaccine by next year.

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3927854)

"People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals"

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3927854)

"People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals"

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3927783)

Also read tonight that there is 30 different strains of the virus now. I know before there was 9. The more strains. The harder to make a vaccine. :shakes head:

What gets me. They tell us, no need for a mask until about 2 weeks ago. Now you can't go out without one. I've been working my normal schedule of 5 days a week. I work part time at Home Depot. I'm out in the public. No one at the store is sick or tested positive for the virus. Most us feel that if we was going to get it. We would have had it by now. Our sales numbers are up, and foot traffic has stayed about the same. Starting last Sunday. We limit the number of people into the store to 75 at a time. My county has 67 cases, and 3 dead. 90% of the cases are at a couple of nursing homes. A few are outside of them.

Originally Posted by DaveZ03 (Post 3927881)

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3927812)

It won't surprise me when we find out the covid mortality rate isn't that bad (closer to 1% like influenza) but that something like 90% of the world's population contracted it.

Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 3927569)

No Im not serious and honestly when someone shared me a video of a documentary that speaks about it...btw it was immediately shut down at social media.

I didn’t believe it at all...very hard to verify validity and reliability of all information at this point about covid19.

I don’t even believe the article you posted either..everything is being fabricated.

I just live my life everyday and speak thanksgiving for seeing the sun again.