Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3922079)

I would love to discuss theology with you but this is not the medium to do so. What I will say all thing evil or sin related started with Adam and Eve. Original sin has led to the mess we live with today!

I know that is only one belief system but basically all believe systems come to the same conclusion. Man is his own worse enemy. The gift is life we all get to choose which path we take and what we do with that gift.

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Originally Posted by JLarson (Post 3921922)

The counterpoint is that God didn't put Job through that. Satan did. God merely withdrew his protection so it could happen. Whether or not that difference means anything to you is dependent on whether or not you think God is somehow obligated to protect people. The rabbit hole can go pretty deep in theology.

Originally Posted by asht (Post 3922191)

How many shredded wheat can you eat?

I used to take the piss out of Americans “needing” to own a gun. But the cuntish kids in the UK seem to know better than anyone. Knock on the door, “they can get the virus”

Been introduced to Mr Beretta and Mr Sig Sauer. I always knew there was a job for the laser sights when I don’t own a laser pointer


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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 3922195)

Looks like we will be holding worship/theology services online @ the370z.com. Someone set up a thread and we can have prayer meetings! Bring your Bibles!



What about the fall of Lucifer and the reason he fell? This was way before Adam/Eve.

I have always wondered about free will. God gave humans free will, however, He knows what route humans will choose, which leads me to this: God knows who will go to Heaven/Hell before that individual is born. So why create that individual? If He knows what will happen to a specific person, then there is no way to change the course of that person's destiny.



:iagree:

Piggybacking on my post above about free will, so God knew Lucifer would fall, but yet still created him. Why?

If Satan wasn't created, then Adam/Eve would have never been tempted to each from the Tree, and we'd all still be in Eden. If Satan wasn't created, Job would not have been on the brink of death and insanity. If Satan wasn't created, Christ wouldn't have had to been brutally (for lack of better words) crucified.

Note: Not trying to start a debate. I'm just really curious.

Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3922206)

Most importantly Jesus came along & gave everyone opportunity to have eternal life :tup:
The only Perfect one to walk the earth; yet was crucified :ugh2:
He carried all of our sins to Calvary & cleanses us with his blood :iagree:
Trust & Obey, as there is no other way...Jesus our Lord & Savior :tup:

Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3922210)

Headed to fire up the countertop cammer & gets myself awakening up :icon14:
So far, no fram bamming on my door :ugh2:

Originally Posted by asht (Post 3922213)

I think you need a Hammond Organ.


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Originally Posted by asht (Post 3922212)

Not a bad quote. I’ve found faith. Praying you are all safe


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Originally Posted by asht (Post 3922216)

That saucepan looks like it has cowboy food


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Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3922206)

Most importantly Jesus came along & gave everyone opportunity to have eternal life :tup:

The only Perfect one to walk the earth; yet was crucified :ugh2:

He carried all of our sins to Calvary & cleanses us with his blood :iagree:

Trust & Obey, as there is no other way...Jesus our Lord & Savior :tup: