Charity: Water - Please help donate!

TheMagZ

I am sure many of you are aware of the water crisis many face around the world. Over 663 million people in the world live without clean water. I have started an on-line campaign on Charity: Water and was hoping that you guys could help by donating. Any amount will help. I am trying to raise $1000 in the next 50 days. I got the ball rolling by giving $75. Here is the link to my campaign:

https://donate.charitywater.org/samu...leasedonatenow

Thanks for looking and please share!

SouthArk370Z

Probably counter-productive. There are already more people in many places than the local environment can sustain. Drilling more wells will only deplete those meager resources faster. Maybe birth control would work better - treat the disease instead of the symptoms.

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TheMagZ

Thanks for that but wells are not the only way they are offering clean water through Charity Water. There are water purification systems, biosand filters, gravity fed systems, rainwater catchments, piped systems and spring protections. Simply stating they should offer people birth control isn't going to help the current people in need.


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SouthArk370Z

If you help the "current people in need" you are only making things worse for the following generations. This is not a short-term problem that can be fixed by throwing money (or wells or filters) at it. The only real solution is to reduce the demand for resources. The only way to do that is to reduce the population. If not done by Man, Mother Nature will take care of it (and she's one mean bitch).

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TheMagZ

So what you're suggesting is we stop all aid, let the people in need die out so we can reduce the need for resources. Brilliant idea, thanks for the input


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SouthArk370Z

What I am suggesting is that the problem be fixed in a way that will adversely affect the fewest number of people possible. Yes, my solution would mean that some people die but your solution will do nothing but exacerbate the problem - you will save a few now but doom many others in the future.

The situation will work itself out one way or the other. If we humans don't handle the situation now (reduce demand for limited resources) the environment will do it later - and with much direr consequences (famine, pestilence, and lots of other nasty stuff, see Bible for details).

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TheMagZ

I'm sure you'd draw the same conclusions if it were the other way around. Providing sources of water where there isn't dooms future generations. Awesome, noted! Thanks man, learning a lot here


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madeinjapan

sounds like a scam

TheMagZ

Look at the site before you pass judgement


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RumbleFish

pay no attention to that person, they post many asinine comments.

good luck with your charity.

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TheMagZ

I appreciate it, thank you.


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SouthArk370Z

My conclusions don't really matter. The fact is that any area has limited resources and can only support so many people. Some areas have fewer resources than others and can only support a very limited number of people. If you exceed the limit, bad things happen - doesn't matter what you or I think/say/do, all we can do is postpone the inevitable and that just makes things much worse in the long run. Those sources of water are very limited and all your solution is doing is allowing more and more people to exhaust that resource.

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TheMagZ

There are other solutions other than letting people die out. You don't see a reduction of usage as a solution; you would rather that everyone in first world countries not lose their standard of living. For instance, the average golf course wastes over 312,000 gallons of water a day. Or you have these massive corporations using up the wells in developing countries but let's not stop them or see that as a solution, those people over there dying out will have to do. There are so many ways we can reduce and send aid over there but no let the people die out lol. You're right; it doesn't matter what you and I say, this conversation is pointless. I am going to continue doing what I am doing, and you will continue doing what you're doing. Thanks for the talk

SouthArk370Z

I'd be more than happy to see one of those solutions. So far, the solutions you have offered up will only make more people die down the road.

So, you're a mind-reader, too?
A reduction of use here is not going to affect how much water is available over there. A reduction in use over there is the only real, long-term solution.
My standard of living will not be lowered by a futile attempt to "rescue" a few people. However, that of future generations will be when even more people are in the same situation because of misguided "help."

What's your point? Either those golf courses are in areas of the world that have plenty of water or they are moving their areas in the same direction as the places you want to "save."

Stopping such practices sounds to me to be a major step in the right direction. My whole point has been that consumption must be reduced. Not sure why anyone would be against it. Oh, wait. Your remark was poorly done sarcasm, wasn't it?

People dying is part of Nature. If nobody died, we'd all be in the same situation - all resources would be quickly depleted. When any species overpopulates an area, there will be a die off to maintain balance - it may not be pretty but that's just the way it is.

Please enlighten us as to what those ways are. Apparently you don't see birth control as a viable solution. Just what is?

It doesn't matter only if if we don't attack the root cause of the problem. I'm sure you mean well but your solution will only make things worse. If the load on the ecosystem is not reduced, all other "fixes" are just bandaids; and poor ones at that. The best way to help them is to show them how to help themselves.

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ChaseZ

It's a philosophical debate, and a personal one at that.

My thinking is more along the lines of help starts at home. How many people need help in Ontario, Canada, the North America? I'd rather not see our own population neglected as opposed to pumping more and more into foreign aid.

Sure, there are lots of people globally that need food, shelter, water; but there are right at home too. Teach them how to fish, then reach out to the others.

I think your heart is in the right place, but maybe look a little closer to home to see what can be done for your neighbours.