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theDreamer 08-10-2009 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 145904)
^ How often do you clean your filters? isn't it every 15k miles or so ?


Also dreamer, you will ONLY have an intake installed as far as engine performance goes for the dyno right?

Correct, the intake is the only thing change I will have, so all gains are because of the intake.

kdo2milger 08-10-2009 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 146055)
Correct, the intake is the only thing change I will have, so all gains are because of the intake.

are you going to be using the same dyno as in your sig?

kdo2milger 08-10-2009 09:04 PM

also not to go off topic but do you have pics of before and after of that short throw B&M?

theDreamer 08-10-2009 09:12 PM

Yes, the exact same dyno, one reason I am having to wait because he got busy today. No real pictures of the B&M install or before/after, this is all I have - link.

kdo2milger 08-10-2009 09:15 PM

how much shorter than stock would you say it is now?

I think this will be my next mod after the Fast Intensions Catback ;)

rednek01 08-10-2009 09:18 PM

The Takeda Intake is a great intake I really hope to see it produce good numbers, Its a great complete kit that was a breeze to put on!

kdo2milger 08-10-2009 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rednek01 (Post 146146)
The Takeda Intake is a great intake I really hope to see it produce good numbers, Its a great complete kit that was a breeze to put on!

ahhh...SLP loudmouths...good choice my man :tup:

theDreamer 08-10-2009 09:23 PM

I would say a good 30% or more shorter, you will feel it. My only issue so far with it has been in the upper RPM range (5500+) it will rattle and I have not found the source or how to control it.

rednek01 08-10-2009 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kdo2milger (Post 146149)
ahhh...SLP loudmouths...good choice my man :tup:

Thanks it was really the only exhaust that opened it up and gave me the rough sound I was looking for.

As for the B&M shifter the throw was reduced quite a bit I think there is a thread here where they measure the difference of the throw for the 3-4 shift and I want to say it was near or at 2" shorter. Do some searching in the DIY section I think that is where the pictures of the throw on the shifter are. If you are curious about the height I would say it was about the same but this will also depend on what shift knob you use and how high or low you adjust it.

theDreamer 08-10-2009 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rednek01 (Post 146146)
The Takeda Intake is a great intake I really hope to see it produce good numbers, Its a great complete kit that was a breeze to put on!

Nice sig, remember to wash the car this weekend. ;)

rednek01 08-10-2009 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 146156)
Nice sig, remember to wash the car this weekend. ;)

right after you catch up to me :driving::tiphat:

kdo2milger 08-10-2009 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 146153)
I would say a good 30% or more shorter, you will feel it. My only issue so far with it has been in the upper RPM range (5500+) it will rattle and I have not found the source or how to control it.

that may be because there is no rubber isolation bushing between the shifter and connecting rod to the transmission...

atleast thats how my MRT short throw shifter is in the MACH 1.

m4a1mustang 08-10-2009 09:36 PM

That's interesting because I have zero rattle with mine.

kdo2milger 08-10-2009 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rednek01 (Post 146155)
Thanks it was really the only exhaust that opened it up and gave me the rough sound I was looking for.

As for the B&M shifter the throw was reduced quite a bit I think there is a thread here where they measure the difference of the throw for the 3-4 shift and I want to say it was near or at 2" shorter. Do some searching in the DIY section I think that is where the pictures of the throw on the shifter are. If you are curious about the height I would say it was about the same but this will also depend on what shift knob you use and how high or low you adjust it.

i have the catback SLP loudmouth on the 04 MACH 1, and it really gives her the sound she deserves...

Diversion 08-10-2009 09:42 PM

Takeda intakes look strikingly similar to Status Elites

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3606/...f2673563_b.jpg

kdo2milger 08-10-2009 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Diversion (Post 146179)
Takeda intakes look strikingly similar to Status Elites

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3606/...f2673563_b.jpg

dyno?

Diversion 08-10-2009 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kdo2milger (Post 146183)
dyno?

Nope, not yet.. and if I did dyno, my Invidia catback and Berk HFCs would definately skew the results ;)

kdo2milger 08-10-2009 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Diversion (Post 146184)
Nope, not yet.. and if I did dyno, my Invidia catback and Berk HFCs would definately skew the results ;)

it would still be good to know where your at :tup:

theDreamer 08-11-2009 11:07 AM

Results are in:
theDreamer's Journal

LiquidZ 08-11-2009 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 146684)
Results are in:
theDreamer's Journal

Thanks for doing the test. Sadly, this confirms a lot of the beliefs on the forum.

I wonder how a tune would do?

theDreamer 08-11-2009 11:18 AM

^And that is the ultimate question, are these intakes worthless without a tune? Basically I am running richer and a good tune will bring me back up to a good position but will the intakes help at all or no?

LiquidZ 08-11-2009 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 146695)
^And that is the ultimate question, are these intakes worthless without a tune? Basically I am running richer and a good tune will bring me back up to a good position but will the intakes help at all or no?

Typically, I would expect intakes to lean cars out, not make them richer when bolted on. I wonder if it has to do with the placement of the MAF sensors.

A tune should fix the A/F for you.

nogoodname 08-11-2009 11:28 AM

At least reset the ecu

JvKintheUSA 08-11-2009 11:32 AM

they look nice, but I'm not paying for a loss of power

theDreamer 08-11-2009 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by nogoodname (Post 146706)
At least reset the ecu

Doing that now, not going to re-dyno as I feel a battery reset probably will not change anything. 150+ miles v. a battery reset probably would be about the same.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JvKintheUSA (Post 146710)
they look nice, but I'm not paying for a loss of power

I agree, but at the same time who knows what will happen in the future.

RCZ 08-11-2009 01:02 PM

Dreamer, chances are you will pickup a little power as you drive more. I thought I saw somewhere that they made the car run rich. That could be just the ECU adjusting to the new flow of the intakes. The mix should eventually go back to normal, perhaps even lean out a bit.

LOU@AMPLIFIED 08-11-2009 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 146835)
Dreamer, chances are you will pickup a little power as you drive more. I thought I saw somewhere that they made the car run rich. That could be just the ECU adjusting to the new flow of the intakes. The mix should eventually go back to normal, perhaps even lean out a bit.

This might be the case, When Takeda was doing testing with my G37, they asked me to put some miles on my car before they dyno'd it again. After 300+ miles, my G got made power. The Nissan/Infiniti ECU will re learn the new intake. I also have a madgen computer and i have been monitoring my AFR and so far, i went from 11.5 WOT on 3rd gear when i first picked up my car with the new takeda intakes to 12.8 AFR on WOT on 3 gear after 180 miles. I guess my ecu has adjusted to the new intake and 12.5 is optimal according to Cobb.

Hopefully you get better results on your next dyno day given the conditions are the same as the orginal baseline dyno.:tup:

Diversion 08-11-2009 04:40 PM

Definately reset the ECU and drive around. . The ECU is probably still expecting the "usual" intake measurements and things are changed so it's getting conflicting reports and having a slow time getting adjusting.. Or I could be talking out of my butt.

zZSportZz 08-11-2009 08:32 PM

I almost pulled the trigger on these but I will wait for see future results.

JvKintheUSA 08-11-2009 08:38 PM

Leaning towards a Stillen Gen 2 now...

m4a1mustang 08-11-2009 08:47 PM

Why the Gen 2? Why not a Gen 3 or Injen?

theDreamer 08-11-2009 09:09 PM

If anything, go with the Gen 3, short style intakes are not proving to be a good buy with the Z so far, be it heat, not enough tubing, etc., but I would go with Stillen or Injen.

frost 08-11-2009 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JvKintheUSA (Post 147432)
Leaning towards a Stillen Gen 2 now...

Explanation needed :D

Daishi 08-11-2009 10:27 PM

Probably because of the heat shields would be my guess..

kekermahoney 08-11-2009 11:58 PM

gen 3 looks like the way to go.. the short tubed intakes do look purty but i've yet to see anything match the new stillen's numbers

nogoodname 08-12-2009 02:25 AM

gen2 < r2c

JvKintheUSA 08-12-2009 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 147451)
Why the Gen 2? Why not a Gen 3 or Injen?

I don't want to deal with removing the front fascia.

ERZperformance 08-12-2009 06:04 AM

nice intake system

Shunya 08-12-2009 06:47 AM

r2d2 comes in black chrome tho :(

RCZ 08-12-2009 01:25 PM

Just in case some of you guys are opting out of the Gen3 because of the bumper removal...it takes me about 3.5 minutes to take my bumper off now... its NOT a big deal. All you need is one flathead and a one Phillips. Shouldn't take you more than 10 minutes your first time.


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