Considering Berk hfc and cbe

equalme · 11-17-2013, 10:45 AM

So I just got my Z and found the exhaust note much milder than a 350z. I want to keep a stock look and drone free. From what I've researched, the Berk seems to have good gains while not being too loud (both sound and visual).

Now my questions-
Some say the tip sticks out a little further than stock. Does anybody have measurements on the difference?

I want a hfc as well, but was really deciding between Berk hfc vs resonated hfc. Anybody have comment on this?

The only other mod I have on the car is the stillen g3 intake.

Joepro · 11-17-2013, 12:42 PM

There is a used berk over in the for sale forums, its the first version which has the oval tips which looks the closest to OEM as you will get. IMO the berk is the mildest CBE for the Z and is the perfect daily driver exhaust. I do not recall the tips sticking out when I had one, but I did not use gaskets, I use RTV, so I saved the collective width of the gaskets the whole way back Im sure that it worth at least a 1/4 inch.

Mandingo · 11-17-2013, 02:33 PM

The Berk HFC completely changes the sound of their CBE. It makes a very exotic and unique sound. In my opinion the resonated HFCs sound a bit tame.

I can't say much about the tips sticking out. My Berk CBE is the generation (2nd gen? I dunno) that came with adjustable oval tips. Maybe you can ask Berk if they have more of the adjustable ones so you can make the tips on your new exhaust sit more flush with the bumper?

Edit: There are Berk fitment pics in my user gallery

equalme · 11-17-2013, 08:35 PM

Thanks! From what I read, it was mainly the first few batches of the version 2 with adjustable tips that had the problem.

SS_Firehawk · 11-17-2013, 10:04 PM

A local guys has Brrk CBE and HFC. It sounds clean. More aggressive than stock, not too loud. It's a great sounding combo.

Chuy · 11-20-2013, 09:32 PM

I have the cat back very nice not loud at all, even when you get on it. I do have a set of resonated test pipes that still need to go on. My plan is to keep her very mild.

Stino · 11-20-2013, 10:55 PM

This is a sound clip of the exhaust note for my 370Z after installing Berk HFCs & CBE. The clip starts off with a cold start then some revs followed by a take-off and slow drive-by.

Sound clip of the exhaust note

equalme · 11-20-2013, 11:36 PM

Love it! Sounds so sick.

equalme · 11-21-2013, 05:28 PM

Does the fumes smell any worst compared to stock? (HFC)

DEpointfive0 · 11-21-2013, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by equalme

Does the fumes smell any worst compared to stock? (HFC)

Not really. Test pipes smell like death and cancer

SS_Firehawk · 11-21-2013, 05:43 PM

My HFC doesn't smell, but i was driving behind a gen 4 F body with test pipes and that gave everyone in our vehicle headaches and nausea. We were in a different car with the windows up. Came through the vents.

equalme · 12-04-2013, 11:34 PM

Installed the Berk cbe today. Is it common for the tips to stick out about a single finger width? I've seen most pictures are flush with the bumper keeping the stock look.

equalme · 12-12-2013, 06:23 PM

Took some pictures of the tips.

I found a shop that could push the tips back in for $85...still trying to see if it grows on me.

Mandingo · 12-12-2013, 06:39 PM

Doesn't look bad to me. I've adjusted my tips to sit flush with the bumper, but only because the tips are adjustable on my older Berk cbe.

andbui05 · 01-08-2014, 02:22 PM

As a fellow Berk HFC and CBE owner I can say that's the same for me. My tips stick out just like yours. I don't have the 1st Gen oval tips either. I wish I saw this thread sooner cuz I would've let you test drive my Z so you can get a personal experience of Berk HFC/CBE combo. The sound is amazing with the deep tones at early gears.

My question to you is are you sitting on springs or coils? Im on swift springs and my CBE is sitting 2" from the ground. It's a shame since I want to move onto coils soon but I'll have to switch out my Berk CBE for F.I. or something with more ground clearance. I've already scraped the hell out of my CBE going 35-40mph over small dips. It sucks =(

If you're on springs or coils, see if you can get a reading of how much ground clearance you have from your CBE please.

Quote:

Originally Posted by equalme

Installed the Berk cbe today. Is it common for the tips to stick out about a single finger width? I've seen most pictures are flush with the bumper keeping the stock look.

11-17-2013, 10:45 AM	#1 (permalink)
equalme Track Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kansas City Posts: 656 Drives: RCF Rep Power: 13	Considering Berk hfc and cbe So I just got my Z and found the exhaust note much milder than a 350z. I want to keep a stock look and drone free. From what I've researched, the Berk seems to have good gains while not being too loud (both sound and visual). Now my questions- Some say the tip sticks out a little further than stock. Does anybody have measurements on the difference? I want a hfc as well, but was really deciding between Berk hfc vs resonated hfc. Anybody have comment on this? The only other mod I have on the car is the stillen g3 intake.

11-17-2013, 12:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
Joepro A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Athens ohio Posts: 1,213 Drives: Company car Rep Power: 33	There is a used berk over in the for sale forums, its the first version which has the oval tips which looks the closest to OEM as you will get. IMO the berk is the mildest CBE for the Z and is the perfect daily driver exhaust. I do not recall the tips sticking out when I had one, but I did not use gaskets, I use RTV, so I saved the collective width of the gaskets the whole way back Im sure that it worth at least a 1/4 inch. Zbrah likes this. __________________ Swift\|Koni\|SPC\| FI CBE\|Z1\|Stillen\|Sbend\|Zspeed\|R/T Tuned\|523 whp\|458 tq\|10.5 psi\|SOLD Joepro's Journal\|Joepro's Boosted Performance Build \|Pittsburgh-Western-Pa-Ohio-Wv-Group

11-17-2013, 02:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
Mandingo Track Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Dallas Posts: 624 Drives: '10 370z 6spd Rep Power: 3370	The Berk HFC completely changes the sound of their CBE. It makes a very exotic and unique sound. In my opinion the resonated HFCs sound a bit tame. I can't say much about the tips sticking out. My Berk CBE is the generation (2nd gen? I dunno) that came with adjustable oval tips. Maybe you can ask Berk if they have more of the adjustable ones so you can make the tips on your new exhaust sit more flush with the bumper? Edit: There are Berk fitment pics in my user gallery __________________ some mods Last edited by Mandingo; 11-17-2013 at 02:35 PM.

11-17-2013, 10:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7334	A local guys has Brrk CBE and HFC. It sounds clean. More aggressive than stock, not too loud. It's a great sounding combo. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

11-20-2013, 09:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
Chuy Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 474 Drives: 2015 NISMO Rep Power: 15	I have the cat back very nice not loud at all, even when you get on it. I do have a set of resonated test pipes that still need to go on. My plan is to keep her very mild. __________________ Miko 2015 Nismo Tech: nothing RIP Ginger 2009 370Z Sport Touring

11-17-2013, 08:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
equalme Track Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kansas City Posts: 656 Drives: RCF Rep Power: 13	Thanks! From what I read, it was mainly the first few batches of the version 2 with adjustable tips that had the problem.

11-20-2013, 10:55 PM	#7 (permalink)
Stino Base Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 159 Drives: 2010 370Z Sport Rep Power: 14	Sound clip of the exhaust note This is a sound clip of the exhaust note for my 370Z after installing Berk HFCs & CBE. The clip starts off with a cold start then some revs followed by a take-off and slow drive-by. Sound clip of the exhaust note __________________ 10 370Z Sport\|Berk CBE & HFC\|NISMO R-TUNE CAI\|Z1 Oil & PS Coolers\|Mishimoto Radiator\|UpRev\|Nismo S-Tune\|SEIBON Spoiler\|Eibach Sways, Springs, Spacers\|SPC Camber\|RJM Clutch Pedal\|Enkei Wheels\|StopTech Rotors & Pads\|SS Brake/Clutch Lines\|Alpine W900BT, PDX5, Rear Camera, Boston SR60, S35 & 10" G3 Sub\|3M Ceramic Tint

11-20-2013, 11:36 PM	#8 (permalink)
equalme Track Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kansas City Posts: 656 Drives: RCF Rep Power: 13	Love it! Sounds so sick.

11-21-2013, 05:28 PM	#9 (permalink)
equalme Track Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kansas City Posts: 656 Drives: RCF Rep Power: 13	Does the fumes smell any worst compared to stock? (HFC)

11-21-2013, 05:43 PM	#11 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7334	My HFC doesn't smell, but i was driving behind a gen 4 F body with test pipes and that gave everyone in our vehicle headaches and nausea. We were in a different car with the windows up. Came through the vents. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

12-04-2013, 11:34 PM	#12 (permalink)
equalme Track Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kansas City Posts: 656 Drives: RCF Rep Power: 13	Installed the Berk cbe today. Is it common for the tips to stick out about a single finger width? I've seen most pictures are flush with the bumper keeping the stock look.

12-12-2013, 06:23 PM	#13 (permalink)
equalme Track Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kansas City Posts: 656 Drives: RCF Rep Power: 13	Took some pictures of the tips. I found a shop that could push the tips back in for $85...still trying to see if it grows on me.

12-12-2013, 06:39 PM	#14 (permalink)
Mandingo Track Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Dallas Posts: 624 Drives: '10 370z 6spd Rep Power: 3370	Doesn't look bad to me. I've adjusted my tips to sit flush with the bumper, but only because the tips are adjustable on my older Berk cbe. __________________ some mods

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