ART, new tune or not?

tommyguns · 04-11-2013, 06:50 PM

I'm having ART pipes installed next week and was wondering if I will need to be re-tuned. Thanks

370Z JT · 04-11-2013, 06:53 PM

If you got the coin do it. Maximize your gains.

tommyguns · 04-11-2013, 07:13 PM

I agree, but can it wait, any chance of damage? Just don't have the extra coin right now. Unless I have no option and it has to be done, I will find the $$$

N0SL3N · 04-11-2013, 09:08 PM

It doesn't need to be tuned, especially if you are already running a custom tune. Worst thing that can happen is a CEL, but you can turn that off in Uprev anyways.

Zoren 370 · 04-11-2013, 09:17 PM

No need to tune, the ECU can re-learn and adjust itself.
Been driving the car for a year with complete exhaust bolt on minus the headers. The car runs just fine...the problem with having a tune is if your tuner doesn't know what he is doing it can even mess up your AFR further.

370ZNISMO#704 · 04-11-2013, 09:59 PM

Well I have a friend that has GENIII's and art pipes and a straight threw exhaust not sure what it is but when he went to get a tune his ecu didn't compensate enough for the mods and he was dangerously lean. So it is up to you if you only have the ART pipes then I would not worry about it to much but if you have CAI or full exhaust I would. I'm scared to drive my car because I have GENIII's and AAM 2.5 S-Line midpipe and muffler delete. But I have the software just not got a tune yet. So it's up to you if your strapped I saw wait unless you have other mods.

gomer_110 · 04-11-2013, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 370ZNISMO#704

Well I have a friend that has GENIII's and art pipes and a straight threw exhaust not sure what it is but when he went to get a tune his ecu didn't compensate enough for the mods and he was dangerously lean. So it is up to you if you only have the ART pipes then I would not worry about it to much but if you have CAI or full exhaust I would. I'm scared to drive my car because I have GENIII's and AAM 2.5 S-Line midpipe and muffler delete. But I have the software just not got a tune yet. So it's up to you if your strapped I saw wait unless you have other mods.

From what I've read and understand, the reason it goes lean is that CAI's will often throw off the MAF readings being fed to the ECU.

tommyguns · 04-12-2013, 12:33 PM

Thanks for the input. I guess I'll drive it for a week or two without and see how it feels.

04-11-2013, 06:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
tommyguns Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: New York Age: 64 Posts: 914 Drives: 370Z/Sport/Black/MT Rep Power: 16	ART, new tune or not? I'm having ART pipes installed next week and was wondering if I will need to be re-tuned. Thanks __________________ 09 Sport / MB / 6sd / Nismo"R" Intake / Eibach Pro Kit / Z1 25 row cooler / JWT LW FW / New Short Block 3/11/11 /H&R 15fr 20rr/DBA 4000/FI CB with 12"res./Morel/JL/"Division"mod/SPC/EcuTek/M370/ZEX C SHOT/ART's/NRG

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04-11-2013, 07:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
tommyguns Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: New York Age: 64 Posts: 914 Drives: 370Z/Sport/Black/MT Rep Power: 16	I agree, but can it wait, any chance of damage? Just don't have the extra coin right now. Unless I have no option and it has to be done, I will find the $$$ __________________ 09 Sport / MB / 6sd / Nismo"R" Intake / Eibach Pro Kit / Z1 25 row cooler / JWT LW FW / New Short Block 3/11/11 /H&R 15fr 20rr/DBA 4000/FI CB with 12"res./Morel/JL/"Division"mod/SPC/EcuTek/M370/ZEX C SHOT/ART's/NRG

04-11-2013, 09:08 PM	#4 (permalink)
N0SL3N Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 376 Drives: 2009 PG 370z 6MT Rep Power: 34	It doesn't need to be tuned, especially if you are already running a custom tune. Worst thing that can happen is a CEL, but you can turn that off in Uprev anyways. __________________ \| Akuma \| Motordyne \| Z1 \| NST \| CNT \| Stillen \| Avant Garde \| RJM \| Performix \| Tint \| LED \| GTR \| Nissan \|

04-11-2013, 09:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
370ZNISMO#704 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Seattle Posts: 466 Drives: Nismo10,EgH22,TSX04 Rep Power: 14	Well I have a friend that has GENIII's and art pipes and a straight threw exhaust not sure what it is but when he went to get a tune his ecu didn't compensate enough for the mods and he was dangerously lean. So it is up to you if you only have the ART pipes then I would not worry about it to much but if you have CAI or full exhaust I would. I'm scared to drive my car because I have GENIII's and AAM 2.5 S-Line midpipe and muffler delete. But I have the software just not got a tune yet. So it's up to you if your strapped I saw wait unless you have other mods. __________________ 2010NISMO•305.9whp 250tq Osirus•STANCE GR+•and Camber & Toe bars•KICS R 20mm•VOSSEN CV3 20"-10.5x4•Stillen GENIII•AAM S-Line Nimso mid-pipe•CarbonSignal Sponsored car•EVOR F1mirrors•NST short shifter•Zspeed Nismo under tray.

04-11-2013, 09:17 PM	#5 (permalink)
Zoren 370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: FL Posts: 11,018 Drives: 11 Nissan 370 M6 Rep Power: 1913653	No need to tune, the ECU can re-learn and adjust itself. Been driving the car for a year with complete exhaust bolt on minus the headers. The car runs just fine...the problem with having a tune is if your tuner doesn't know what he is doing it can even mess up your AFR further.

04-12-2013, 12:33 PM	#8 (permalink)
tommyguns Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: New York Age: 64 Posts: 914 Drives: 370Z/Sport/Black/MT Rep Power: 16	Thanks for the input. I guess I'll drive it for a week or two without and see how it feels. __________________ 09 Sport / MB / 6sd / Nismo"R" Intake / Eibach Pro Kit / Z1 25 row cooler / JWT LW FW / New Short Block 3/11/11 /H&R 15fr 20rr/DBA 4000/FI CB with 12"res./Morel/JL/"Division"mod/SPC/EcuTek/M370/ZEX C SHOT/ART's/NRG

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