You guys don't understand I didn't either till I started using Uprev and I was asking tuners for some pointers and all I got was the cold shoulder and when I asked John @ Z1 why and he told me that they work really hard to come up with tricks in tuning with Uprev so they don't what to tell their secrets.

Lucky John took a couple hours out of his day to show me how to use the software,kind of see where I'm going with this.

Sorry Spohn, but you said that was what you thoutgh they did but weren't sure and Baer, who says he knows said close so we all just want some confirmation is all. We definitely heard what you said and it's great info and it seems like it's 90% of the way there, we are just wondering what that last 10% is.

It'd be all good if they could find a way to make this mod available to people who aren't close enough to go to them. They'd have a bunch of customers.

They will you guys just want to eat your dessert without eating your greens.:eek:

So are you saying they are working on a way for us west coasters to get this through them? If that's true, I'm cool with that. Can't wait for press release, price, results, etc. then.

I pay Z1 an extra $50 to bump my HP. Tell them to do the dyno mod.

Don't ask about the Z1 sticker mod. It will blow your motor.

Lol at all of us, honestly, I'm over it.
Brucelidat and the rest of us, let's give it up!


If Z1 wants to sell it, they will, if not, F-it, lets all just compare our díck sizes again like we did before, and we'll leave the guys tuned at Z1 out because they have their own proprietary mods.

Everything can be solved on the track. Where numbers don't matter.

My D!CK is big:hello:

Yes, I know you're a BIG DÍCK :tup:

Yeah but I know the mod!!!!!!!!!

Lets keep it ON TOPic. On top your mom.:tup:

Who's mom is named topic.:icon14:

lol this reminds me of highschool. 'i have something you don't, neener neener neener'

:icon18: LMAO!!! :bowrofl: :shakes head:

Lol, fixed, and yep!

i'm out of this, will just stick to what's availabel and see what becomes available whenever it becomes available

For me, they mentioned a plenum spacer and bored throttle bodies as power mods as far as intakes go.

I understand that tuners work hard to find tricks and don't want to give up their secrets. I can see it from their side, but what good is it if you're only demographic is people who live in GA?

Good point!

But I live here in Ga and know all the Z1 employees on a first name basis and it still took a little prying to get the info.

yeah I should have done the same with the gain I got *twice* with a bored TB Vs an oem TB sizing using a custom CAI.

Keeping my mount shut and discovering the big miss alignment of the lower intake manifold runners to the Intake plenum.

I just mentioned 2 big secrets :ugh2:

Think of the power mod this way... Z1 knows how to make power. They push very hard to be excellent. Their market is Nissan performance .. Specifically z cars. They have found a technique that blends a combination of parts and their tuning that gives a quantifiable positive result. The power mod is aptly named. Why should they give out the info on what they are doing to help their competition out? This is like asking a restaurant to reveal a secret ingredient to a signature dish. Maybe one day it will be a commodity that is viable profit wise to mass produce and sell. But until then it will be their edge. I am local and have the power mod but not the headers and it was a similar change in feeling as going to the f.I. exhaust. I guess I can see it through your eyes that it is hard to obtain if you can't go to z1...and that would be frustrating... But I am local... and lucky enough to have the mod. It took a few tries and attempts for me to finally get it LoL.

PS the powermod is the z1 zino sticker you see on their race cars (the domo dinosaur). They apply it right on the intake manifold with a bag of ice on top to make sure it sticks.

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I understand their point of view. I am just hoping that they find a way to make this mod available to customers who aren't local. I don't want the mod for free. I am willing to pay for the mod, it just sucks that it seems that it can only be done there.

How much does Z1 charge and how much power does it add? Tuning is required?

On the phone they told me it added somewhere in the range of 10-15whp. If I am ever driving across country in the Z for some reason, I wills stop by z1, haha.

Exactly; I want the mod, I'm willing to pay, but I don't live in GA.

The only thing I can really think of is that lets say it's like the Motordyne manifold, but easier to replicate at home, they don't want to tell people what it is otherwise they "won't make money off it" and at the moment for them, they see it as, 10 locals times $500 (just throwing numbers out there) is $5000, we tell people what to do, or what it is, we get no sales...

To me this logic is flawed, because god knows Motordyne has sold a billion of those manifolds, and THEY say EXACTLY what it is, and how many people have attempted something similar? 2 that I know of... TWO, megan370Z jimmied it at home, and I made a whole ONE at my machine shop and I sold it to a friend at a loss...

Again, I don't work for Z1, and I'll step back and let them do whatever they please, it's a free country, and they already support the forum, so they get a pass by me (oh, and Dustin was cool as hell, and John is great to shoot the shít with, hell, I've never met the guy, but he KNOWS who I am as soon as I call, lol)


All that being said, I think we should crawl out of their arse and let THEM decide what's the next step, I called, I know blucelidat called, so they KNOW we are interested in this mod of theirs, lets just see what unfolds :tiphat:

first thing they asked me when I called was if I was Andrew, haha

LOL! And there's NO damn way we sound similar, you just called like 30 min after me, lol

F it. I'm boreing out everything. lol if i find it i'll share

Do you mind sharing with everybody what exhaust setup he had to only get 309 ?

this could maybe help other VVEL users to look for a better setup ! hehe

:tup:



Sorry guys I'm not being racist by calling you VVEL users.. haha
:stirthepot:

^racist Canadian...

I might need to wait for someone to dyno them with HFCs then since I do not plan to switch to TPs. I know TPs make more than HFCs, but I am hearing that the headers might make more in addition tot hat diff depending on if they are paired with TPs vs HFCs as well.

So 320s, minus z1 power mod equal something like 315ish whp? Plus since I'm an auto maybe even less.

A lot of the really high results also have to do with the capability of the tuner themselves, I have a great tuner up here in WA who pretty much does every VQ around here. There are a lot of over factors that go into the results, I personally can't wait to get a hold of these headers and have my guy tune me (even though I have an HR 350).

andrew, your car back together yet?

Nope

I thought I had it down pat. But I was wrong. I was mislead on purpose I believe.:icon17: You want to make power out of the intake. Take it off. Turn it upside down. Inside you will see some squares/ outlines inside the intake track. That section needs to be ported and smoothed out.