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F.I. Inc. 11-04-2009 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 264189)
Hey Tony, are you guys looking at doing regular tube headers, or just the LTH? Just wondering since right now Stillen seems to be the only normal length headers on the market... Wouldn't mind having straight FI all the way back, Header>HFC>CBE ftw :tup:
Nice picture man!

The shorty headers don't make any power and in my opinion are not worth the money! We want to be different and offer for now, only a long tube that will hopefully make power and gobs of torque.

F.I. Inc. 11-04-2009 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Valentino (Post 264079)
41 :icon08:
It's boxed up, I am filling out the paperwork as we speak. Thanks for the patience, I know it has taken longer than expected. I will always try to keep all of you informed though so you are not sitting in the dark. I hate that!

XwChriswX 11-04-2009 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by F.I. Inc. (Post 265923)
Nice picture man!

The shorty headers don't make any power and in my opinion are not worth the money! We want to be different and offer for now, only a long tube that will hopefully make power and gobs of torque.
I was just looking at the idea of the short tubes + HFC's for those who need Cats on their car. I'm anxious to see your LTH's since Arizona doesn't require Emission Testing FTW. But in the event say I were to go back oversea's, or to a state that does require them, so I could do a swap persay...

NewYorkJon34 11-04-2009 10:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by F.I. Inc. (Post 265923)

The shorty headers don't make any power and in my opinion are not worth the money! We want to be different and offer for now, only a long tube that will hopefully make power and gobs of torque.
gobs of torque, FTW :happydance:

kannibul 11-04-2009 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 265930)
I was just looking at the idea of the short tubes + HFC's for those who need Cats on their car. I'm anxious to see your LTH's since Arizona doesn't require Emission Testing FTW. But in the event say I were to go back oversea's, or to a state that does require them, so I could do a swap persay...
I think they're going to offer a LTH with HFC's built in...so people like me, where they are threatening to bring back inspections...well, can do the HFC/LTH route.

XwChriswX 11-04-2009 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 266232)
I think they're going to offer a LTH with HFC's built in...so people like me, where they are threatening to bring back inspections...well, can do the HFC/LTH route.
If they do make LTH's with the HFC's built in then it's a done deal for me. :tup:

Tony, I also heard you can make your exhaust in a 3" version, what kinda differences/improvements(?) can I expect to see if I were to go 3" route vs. 2.5"?

kannibul 11-04-2009 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 266350)
If they do make LTH's with the HFC's built in then it's a done deal for me. :tup:

Tony, I also heard you can make your exhaust in a 3" version, what kinda differences/improvements(?) can I expect to see if I were to go 3" route vs. 2.5"?
Unless you're using forced induction, AND getting more than 500WHP (or even more), 3" isn't anything but bragging rights.

If you're using 3" without forced induction...you're more than likely losing power.

XwChriswX 11-04-2009 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 266368)
Unless you're using forced induction, AND getting more than 500WHP (or even more), 3" isn't anything but bragging rights.

If you're using 3" without forced induction...you're more than likely losing power.
I guess I need to link my convo that's been goin on on the GTM Exhaust thread...

I'm planning to TT the Z and since the best TT kit atm is the GTM one I was talking to people about how I should go with the GTM 3" kit or not, and someone said that F.I. can make a 3" as well... My goal is 600+ WHP. So my question was should I go ahead and get the 3" so that's one less thing I have to buy later, or get the 2.5" and enjoy that until I get the TT and get a 3" exhaust at the same time...

kannibul 11-04-2009 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 266413)
I guess I need to link my convo that's been goin on on the GTM Exhaust thread...

I'm planning to TT the Z and since the best TT kit atm is the GTM one I was talking to people about how I should go with the GTM 3" kit or not, and someone said that F.I. can make a 3" as well... My goal is 600+ WHP. So my question was should I go ahead and get the 3" so that's one less thing I have to buy later, or get the 2.5" and enjoy that until I get the TT and get a 3" exhaust at the same time...
get 2.5 now, wait for more turbo kits to come out and let everyone else "debug"...

XwChriswX 11-04-2009 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 266426)
get 2.5 now, wait for more turbo kits to come out and let everyone else "debug"...
Well see thats the thing, I won't be getting the TT for some time, but I don't really like to get a part... to get the same part again later you know? If I'm gonna do it, might as well go all out now, and then its already done and one thing I can check off as being 'finished'...

F.I. Inc. 11-04-2009 11:52 PM
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NewYorkJon34 11-05-2009 07:36 AM
Three away, yay :) thanks for the updated list Tony. It looks like mine should be shipped soon

kannibul 11-05-2009 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 266432)
Well see thats the thing, I won't be getting the TT for some time, but I don't really like to get a part... to get the same part again later you know? If I'm gonna do it, might as well go all out now, and then its already done and one thing I can check off as being 'finished'...
I bought a G3 Intake. I'll probably do some form of Forced Induction at some point in the future. Was it worth it? Sure! It'll be a year, at least, before I would feel comfortable buying a FI kit - one, I want to wait for more competition and make a well informed selection, two, I want all the bugs and kinks to be worked out, three, since I have a 7AT, I want to wait until someone else blows their transmission, find out what boost levels they were running, and run 1PSI lower or somethin...

The future isn't known (financial situations change, etc) - unless you've got 10-14K sitting in the bank to fund getting a TT setup NOW, then IMO, don't bother with it, either leave what you have in place, or get a nice exhaust that will give you some gains (and make your car sound/look better (those are subjective)) - FWIW, even if you toss the exhaust in the trash, you're talking about it being 1/10th the cost of putting in a TT kit...

Myself, I've got the exhaust on order, I've got a G3 intake. I plan on going after the LTH's from F.I. when they come out. If I'm happy with it then, so be it. If not, then I might look at some kind of forced induction...

Another thing to consider is, how often do you see a car that's half done? Some of them get referred to as "riced out" or whatever, but I bet those owners thought they had a good idea and went all out, but ran out of money, time, or had other committments that detracted from that project completion. I do agree with going all out, but, only if you have the means to do it up-front...


Even then, I'm skeptical that 600WHP is achievable without spending a lot more on other components, not only to give the car some longevity, but also to actually make that power useful.

cotizi 11-05-2009 08:39 AM
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Sweet im next!

NewYorkJon34 11-05-2009 08:46 AM
^Which exhaust set-up did you go with?

cotizi 11-05-2009 08:50 AM
12" resonators, non-carbon fiber mufflers.

I hope its loud enough. im running stock with no mufflers right now and i like it :)

NewYorkJon34 11-05-2009 09:06 AM
Others on this site say it's pretty loud, I ordered the 18" Carbon Fiber Exhaust, cus I plan on going with the LTH once they come out. I bet yours sounds pretty loud right now with no mufflers, ;)

cotizi 11-05-2009 10:13 AM
you'd be surprised, I don't think its really that bad. My buddy and I made some 90 degree turn downs that look kinda ghetto, but i think it muffles it abit. I'll be very happy to get some real exhaust though. The sound right now is far from "refined" and has massive rasp between 3-4K rpm.

XwChriswX 11-05-2009 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 267673)
I bought a G3 Intake. I'll probably do some form of Forced Induction at some point in the future. Was it worth it? Sure! It'll be a year, at least, before I would feel comfortable buying a FI kit - one, I want to wait for more competition and make a well informed selection, two, I want all the bugs and kinks to be worked out, three, since I have a 7AT, I want to wait until someone else blows their transmission, find out what boost levels they were running, and run 1PSI lower or somethin...

I think the same way...

The future isn't known (financial situations change, etc) - unless you've got 10-14K sitting in the bank to fund getting a TT setup NOW, then IMO, don't bother with it, either leave what you have in place, or get a nice exhaust that will give you some gains (and make your car sound/look better (those are subjective)) - FWIW, even if you toss the exhaust in the trash, you're talking about it being 1/10th the cost of putting in a TT kit...

I know but still, excess cost is excess cost...

Myself, I've got the exhaust on order, I've got a G3 intake. I plan on going after the LTH's from F.I. when they come out. If I'm happy with it then, so be it. If not, then I might look at some kind of forced induction...

I plan on doing the Injen Intakes, F.I. LTH if they are as good as we all know they will be, and F.I.'s CBE, just can't decide if I want CF or SS. I'm thinking CF since my Z will be black and I think it will compliment the CF look. :tup:

Another thing to consider is, how often do you see a car that's half done? Some of them get referred to as "riced out" or whatever, but I bet those owners thought they had a good idea and went all out, but ran out of money, time, or had other committments that detracted from that project completion. I do agree with going all out, but, only if you have the means to do it up-front...

Well yeah thats what I plan to do, piece by piece get everything together, then once it's all in my possession, find out how much installation/labor/dyno/service costs are going to be affiliated, and once that's totalled save up for that. So that way I can do it all at once.. Figure pulling the engine out is something I don't wanna do often, so when I do go all out, do it once, and do it right so I don't have to again later...

Even then, I'm skeptical that 600WHP is achievable without spending a lot more on other components, not only to give the car some longevity, but also to actually make that power useful.
Well yeah I know a turbo alone won't give me 600, but thats the Ultimate goal, I'm not saying I'm gonna buy a turbo, and get 600 easily. I'm saying when I hit 600 I'll be happy and can just sit back and enjoy the ride...

NewYorkJon34 11-05-2009 10:28 AM
Ya, you could enjoy the ride till it breaks down, lol j/k

XwChriswX 11-05-2009 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 267825)
Ya, you could enjoy the ride till it breaks down, lol j/k
LoL Well this is why I wouldn't take it to bob the mechanic. I've already gone to Intense Motorsports and they have their sh!t down so I feel comfortable droppin my baby off with them and letting them work their magic.

kannibul 11-05-2009 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 267811)
Well yeah I know a turbo alone won't give me 600, but thats the Ultimate goal, I'm not saying I'm gonna buy a turbo, and get 600 easily. I'm saying when I hit 600 I'll be happy and can just sit back and enjoy the ride...
If you're already going to get LTH's, and an intake - then get the 2.5 exhaust now, then when it comes time and you have everything to do the TT kit, then move over to it.

Flat out, you're going to lose power going with a 3" exhaust without a TT. Even then a 2.5" F.I. exhaust will probably flow well enough with a TT. (even then, LTH's would be "wasted" as well as the intakes, just pointing out the flaw in the logic!)

Get the cat-back. Get the LTH's when they come out. Get the intake.

Then when it comes to TT time - do it all in one shot, get everything matched up to achieve your goals. Get the engine internals done up as well as all the other items that will have to be built up...dump that 20-25K into it THEN (for all the upgrades), and call it good when it's done!


If you're still undecided, then I'm done. I can't say anything more to help you.

XwChriswX 11-05-2009 10:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 267874)
If you're already going to get LTH's, and an intake - then get the 2.5 exhaust now, then when it comes time and you have everything to do the TT kit, then move over to it.

Flat out, you're going to lose power going with a 3" exhaust without a TT. Even then a 2.5" F.I. exhaust will probably flow well enough with a TT. (even then, LTH's would be "wasted" as well as the intakes, just pointing out the flaw in the logic!)

Get the cat-back. Get the LTH's when they come out. Get the intake.

Then when it comes to TT time - do it all in one shot, get everything matched up to achieve your goals. Get the engine internals done up as well as all the other items that will have to be built up...dump that 20-25K into it THEN (for all the upgrades), and call it good when it's done!


If you're still undecided, then I'm done. I can't say anything more to help you.
LoL Ive never been saying your wrong man, I completely agree with you. Thats the best way. I just wanna TT NOW lol. Ah well, don't worry, you're words arent falling on deaf ears. =)

kannibul 11-05-2009 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 267876)
LoL Ive never been saying your wrong man, I completely agree with you. Thats the best way. I just wanna TT NOW lol. Ah well, don't worry, you're words arent falling on deaf ears. =)
No prob, and I know that level of want!

I just have to remind myself that I want to get rid of debt more....

F.I. Inc. 11-05-2009 02:25 PM
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V8KILR 11-05-2009 05:43 PM
Looking forward to getting the exhaust......and the car as well.

F.I. Inc. 11-06-2009 06:26 PM
UPDATE-

The prototype will begin this coming Monday November 9th (LONG TUBE HEADERS). We will do our best to have pictures, sound clips and possibly dyno charts up by Thanksgiving.

FAQ's:

Q: How much will they cost?
A: Once they are put into production we will set the pricing. There will be a retail and then a introductory sale price, no group buy.

Q: I know that they will replace the stock manifolds, but will they also replace the stock cats?
A: Yes to both, they will bolt up into the stock location on the front of the cat back. So they will work with a stock cat back or ours!

Q: Will they throw a CEL light?
A: As of right now, I will venture towards NO they will not.

Q: Will there be room for a resonator or high flow cat within the header?
A: Not on this version right away. Down the road with possibly a mid length version.

Q: Will the LTH's be louder then a car with shorty headers and aftermarket cats?
A: Most likely!

Q: Will they make torque and power then a shorty and HFC?
A: That is the point! It should make more torque than power.

Q: What material will they be offered in?
A: Standard T-304 Stainless Steel and ceramic coating upon request ($$$).

Q: Will they be CARB approved?
A: NO for California, OFF ROAD USE ONLY. The other 49 states, it will all depend on your laws.

Q: Is Fast Intentions really this good?
A: "Where the impossible is possible"

For any other questions please do not hesitate to ask...

Thank you, Tony
Fast Intentions Inc.
(818) 882-2788
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NewYorkJon34 11-06-2009 07:24 PM
Around how much might they cost, $600-700?

F.I. Inc. 11-06-2009 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 270048)
Around how much might they cost, $600-700?
I have no idea yet!

NewYorkJon34 11-06-2009 10:09 PM
Please don't make them too much Tony, $600 would be great

NewYorkJon34 11-06-2009 10:15 PM
Also how's #47 coming along?

LiquidZ 11-06-2009 10:26 PM
I think a good set of long tube beaders from FI would be closer to $1000.

NewYorkJon34 11-06-2009 10:43 PM
^you could pay a $1000, I rather pay $600. Give me alil break, I already paid enough for the exhaust, ya know.

F.I. Inc. 11-06-2009 11:35 PM
Guys, you both have a point. However, lets not speculate on price. I do not even have them prototyped yet. I promise, I will be fair in the pricing that I set...

Thanks, Tony

NewYorkJon34 11-06-2009 11:45 PM
Thanks Tony, I am sure you'll price them fair. Also I'm dieing to recieve my exhaust, its getting shipped out this week right?

G37Sam 11-07-2009 06:08 AM
Oh boy I can't wait for this!!

earwicker7 11-07-2009 11:50 AM
I really wish I knew a guy who could fudge my emission test results... guess I'll have to wait until I move back to the Midwest (when my daughter graduates from high school in eight years). Damn those CA laws!

motoextreme 11-08-2009 02:29 AM
Tony, can you PM me a price for my 370z nismo? Fits the nismo right? Sorry if its already asked but 160 pages is too many to go through. I know its pretty much the same but just want to make sure. Can you send me the price for CF and SS? Last, let me know the lead time. Thanks!

Earwicker, I have a hook up on the E tests if you need help.


Thank you

kannibul 11-08-2009 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by LiquidZ (Post 270349)
I think a good set of long tube beaders from FI would be closer to $1000.
That's my thought too - figure adding the cost of RTP's / HFC's and Shorty's from a competitor to come up with a prospective total price - actually, I'd take that, and let the gains difference dictate if I'm cheaper or more expensive than that combination...

NewYorkJon34 11-08-2009 06:54 AM
^Just let Tony set a fair price, it's kind of a bad business move for us to be saying you'd pay more when there's a possibility for the LTH's the be cheaper.


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