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370Z JT 03-04-2012 08:28 PM

Just got done wiping down the exhaust, and noticed the driver side "Motordyne Engineering" engraving is upside down. :shakes head:

Quagmire, can you check to see if yours is like that?

quagmire87 03-04-2012 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Z JT (Post 1581444)
Just got done wiping down the exhaust, and noticed the driver side "Motordyne Engineering" engraving is upside down. :shakes head:

Quagmire, can you check to see if yours is like that?

I will.
Edited: yeah its upside down.

Staples 03-04-2012 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Z JT (Post 1581444)
Just got done wiping down the exhaust, and noticed the driver side "Motordyne Engineering" engraving is upside down. :shakes head:

Quagmire, can you check to see if yours is like that?

Which engraving are you referring to? Are they on the resonators?

Boost_lee 03-04-2012 09:54 PM

Yes it is upside down on the drivers side on mine also. looks like they're all engraved the same way

370Z JT 03-04-2012 09:57 PM

I just checked out lasblueprint's photos and his engraving is not upside down. Although I think he got the very first E370 exhaust.

Boost_lee 03-05-2012 12:27 AM

:icon14:

issey.miyake 03-05-2012 12:36 AM

I just checked mine and my passenger side is upside down

370Z JT 03-05-2012 12:39 AM

What the heck is going on. LOL

Boost_lee 03-05-2012 12:42 AM

did you guys mount the muffler section with the MOTORDYNE logo facing the ground, or facing the driveshaft?

370Z JT 03-05-2012 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by issey.miyake (Post 1581773)
I just checked mine and my passenger side is upside down

Isn't your steering wheel on the right? So basically the left canister is upside down.

issey.miyake 03-05-2012 12:44 AM

haven't mounted mine yet but either way they both going in opposite directions lolol

issey.miyake 03-05-2012 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Z JT (Post 1581782)
Isn't your steering wheel on the right? So basically the left canister is upside down.

oh yeah sorry hahaha

forgot we drive on opposite sides :roflpuke2:

so yes your driver side, my passenger side

lastblueprint 03-05-2012 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Z JT (Post 1581585)
I just checked out lasblueprint's photos and his engraving is not upside down. Although I think he got the very first E370 exhaust.

Yes, I think I did….It was a long long wait, but well worth it…..I did have the previous exhaust on my 350z and love the quality and sound…..I have not DYNO’d my 370z yet….I do plan on doing soon, I do have a base line run, a base line run with the M370, but have not ran Dyno on ART pipes along with the E370. I will keep you guys posted with that on my update review on my thread…..:tiphat:

quagmire87 03-05-2012 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by lastblueprint (Post 1581790)
Yes, I think I did….It was a long long wait, but well worth it…..I did have the previous exhaust on my 350z and love the quality and sound…..I have not DYNO’d my 370z yet….I do plan on doing soon, I do have a base line run, a base line run with the M370, but have not ran Dyno on ART pipes along with the E370. I will keep you guys posted with that on my update review on my thread…..:tiphat:

Nice!

quagmire87 03-05-2012 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boost_lee (Post 1581781)
did you guys mount the muffler section with the MOTORDYNE logo facing the ground, or facing the driveshaft?

Logo facing down

Boost_lee 03-05-2012 02:34 AM

OK good. I just tried to adjust the fitment on mine right now, thanks :)

sfearl1 03-05-2012 10:29 AM

i was with my 350z buddy who has the original Shockwave this weekend. man, that's one of the best sounding exhausts i've ever heard. it's so damn smooth! i can't wait to hear this one in person.

lastblueprint 03-05-2012 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sfearl1 (Post 1582148)
i was with my 350z buddy who has the original Shockwave this weekend. man, that's one of the best sounding exhausts i've ever heard. it's so damn smooth! i can't wait to hear this one in person.

This exhaust sounds great, beautiful note and tone. BUT, if you do punch the throttle on full blast, you will soon know why it’s called the ((((SCHOCKWAVE))))

I will start taking my car more and more too local meets here in the southern Cali area and do more track days. So hopefully for you guys that want a chance to hear it will be able to hear it in person.

You won’t be disappointed. I’ll continue doing more and more videos for you guys and do more updates on how everything is holding out. So far, I’m happy with the quality and sound.

370Z JT 03-06-2012 12:36 AM

On a positive note, no hiss on deceleration with ART pipes & E370 as opposed to my previous setup. :tup:

Boost_lee 03-06-2012 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Z JT (Post 1583731)
On a positive note, no hiss on deceleration with ART pipes & E370 as opposed to my previous setup. :tup:

same here :tup:

370Z JT 03-06-2012 05:08 PM

Retune scheduled for next Tuesday. Will keep this thread updated.

370ZilverZ 03-10-2012 08:45 PM

M370 Install
 
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Install semi completed today. I will have to wait to get my front strut brace back from the paint shop to complete the install and then I have an UpRev tune and Dyno runs scheduled for next Saturday 3/17.

No base run to check gains from prior to installed mods. K&N Typhoon CAI, Berk HFC, ARK Performance CBE (Upgrading to F.I. 18" resonated #500) & Motordyne M370.

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1331433660

370Z JT 03-10-2012 09:12 PM

Im glad you had a successful install but this is an E370 review thread. ;)

On another note, I'm having difficulty confirming my tuning session with Church Auto for this Tuesday. They're slow on responding to emails. and not returning voice messages when calling. I will call again Monday.

370ZilverZ 03-10-2012 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Z JT (Post 1592452)
Im glad you had a successful install but this is an E370 review thread. ;).

Yeah, realized it right after I posted. Oh well, just excited!:o

lastblueprint 03-13-2012 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by daemon1957 (Post 1592406)
Install semi completed today. I will have to wait to get my front strut brace back from the paint shop to complete the install and then I have an UpRev tune and Dyno runs scheduled for next Saturday 3/17.

No base run to check gains from prior to installed mods. K&N Typhoon CAI, Berk HFC, ARK Performance CBE (Upgrading to F.I. 18" resonated #500) & Motordyne M370.

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1331433660

Looks Great.....Keep up the good work....

NeverBoneStck 03-14-2012 08:56 AM

Any news on the retune ???

370Z JT 03-14-2012 02:11 PM

I received some interesting results. Will post up plots/vid tonight or tomorrow.

BigT 03-15-2012 04:59 PM

update?

NeverBoneStck 03-15-2012 05:51 PM

Where is this new info ??

370Z JT 03-16-2012 01:11 AM

Update: 3/15/12

If you have been following this thread, last week Tony offered me a "more complete tune" by Church Automotive Testing (CAT) in Wilmington, on his dime. Having nothing to lose, I gladly accepted his offer and scheduled a dyno tuning session with Shawn Church for 12pm, Tuesday March 13th.

Tony was certain more power can be realized if both the timing and AFR was tuned as opposed to the tune by Seb@Specialty Z in which only the AFR was modifed.

I arrived at CAT at 12PM, however I was told Shawn has stepped out and would return shortly. At 12:15pm, another tuner said he'll go ahead and get my car strapped in and proceeded with the tuning session until completion at about 2:15pm. I would like to make it clear Shawn did not have any direct involvement in tuning my Z. However, Shawn did come over to the dynapack monitor several times and discussed the data log with the tuner.

Below are two photographs of the results. Green is the Specialty Z tuned map, and Red is the Church tuned map.

http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/...rchdyno002.jpg

http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/...churchdyno.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k09eelWrp7I

Results:

Horsepower dyno plot was identical up until 5K RPM. Moderate gains (estimated 5-7 HP) were seen with a Peak HP gain of 6 HP.

Torque dyno plot showed gains by the Church tuned map at almost every place under the curve. A considerable amount of torque (estimated 8 lb-ft) was gained between 5K and 6K RPM.

I was pleasantly surprised with the gains from CAT. I decided to validate and confirm these gains on another dyno. Directly after the tuning session with CAT, I drove to Specialty Z and had my Z on their dyno shortly after 4PM. Gains shown on one dyno will reflect the same gains on another dyno.

Below is an image of the two maps on the Dynojet. Blue is the best pull for the Specialty Z tuned map, Red is the best pull for the Church tuned map.

http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/...ifferences.jpg

Results:
Comparing the two tuned plots, both were strikingly similar. Peak HP and TRQ were identical. The two plots basically over laid one another. However, where are the torque gains between 5-6K RPM? Where are the HP gains after 5K RPM?


Questions/Comments welcomed.

Motordyne 03-16-2012 02:00 AM

Do you have the dyno run files for both sets?

Boost_lee 03-16-2012 02:20 AM

Wow the two SZ do runs looks similar, but the only factor I can think of is that those 2 runs are a few weeks apart. Not sure how similar weather conditions were between the two days.
I would go by the Church dyno only because those runs were done back to back.

But I'm not one to get hung up on numbers; does the car feel any different driving? And man, these Z's seem to like their fuel.

Edit: just saw your further post below indicating that you tested both maps at SZ that afternoon. I'm stumped

daisuke149 03-16-2012 09:46 AM

Assuming that, going from one dyno to another should show the same results = absolutely blah false.

Your initial dyno is your best indicator. You cannot even compare that to your initial dynos from specialy z.

The thing you have to look at is, your base run, then your runs after the tune. Any variance there is your gain / loss. Trying to compare it to another dyno from another day, another dyno shop etc = useless.

So based on that, you did gain from the tune. Thats what matters.

You can go back to specialty z every day if you want and you'll see variances in the dyno's.

Spikuh 03-16-2012 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1602924)
Assuming that, going from one dyno to another should show the same results = absolutely blah false.

Your initial dyno is your best indicator. You cannot even compare that to your initial dynos from specialy z.

The thing you have to look at is, your base run, then your runs after the tune. Any variance there is your gain / loss. Trying to compare it to another dyno from another day, another dyno shop etc = useless.

So based on that, you did gain from the tune. Thats what matters.

You can go back to specialty z every day if you want and you'll see variances in the dyno's.

:iagree:

SS_Firehawk 03-16-2012 03:04 PM

I would say that is definitely a measurable difference and free to boot! Dyno reads a bit high, but the results speak for themselves. The AFR's look much better as well.

370Z JT 03-16-2012 03:07 PM

For the pulls on the SZ dyno plots, we ran the Church tuned map then within an hour we ran the SZ tuned map. Same 2 maps, same day pulls just like the Church dyno plots. The delta gains still wouldn't be present?

daisuke149 03-16-2012 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Z JT (Post 1603603)
For the pulls on the SZ dyno plots, we ran the Church tuned map then within an hour we ran the SZ tuned map. Same 2 maps, same day pulls just like the Church dyno plots. The delta gains still wouldn't be present?

ahh musta missed that part. there should have been a slight diff there if you indeed saw a diff from the dyno tuning

MaDMaXX 03-16-2012 06:58 PM

The SZ tuned map didn't include the cam adjustment, and as the last tune before it was applied (Church tune) did have it, then is that not why you didn't show those changes this time.

Staples 03-16-2012 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDMaXX (Post 1604017)
The SZ tuned map didn't include the cam adjustment, and as the last tune before it was applied (Church tune) did have it, then is that not why you didn't show those changes this time.

You can't adjust cam timing, only ignition timing.

MaDMaXX 03-16-2012 09:30 PM

Sorry, transposing them in my head, yes, i meant spark advance, point still remains ;)


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