header wrap or ceramic coating really worth it?

Jordo! · 10-25-2011, 01:25 PM

ceramic coating is worthwhile, but wrapping it isn't good for a DD -- just becomes a place for moisture to collect and lead to rusting.

If you can get a serious high temp coating on there that's not too expensive, I'd do it, especially if the header is mild steel or average quality SS.

Jordo! · 10-25-2011, 10:49 PM

That's probably from the temperature differential between wrapped and unwrapped areas on the header.

Yeah, uniform high temp coating is definitely better.

ImportConvert · 10-26-2011, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SATX370Z

hey all. so I got my ss headers in today and i was looking at wrapping them initially. then a infinity master tech who ive had do work for me before tells me i should ceramic coat them instead. so i call the guy he recommends and he wants $250.00 to do the job. wrap itself is expensive also but not quite as much. so all in all is it really worth my time and money to wrap or coat these mo fo's?

It's not an 80's mustang. Have them coated or don't do anything at all. I recommend coating, though, as it will keep them nice.

wstar · 10-26-2011, 10:08 PM

When I bought my FI LTH's, Tony advised me that if I was going to do something to trap heat, to go with the coating instead of a header wrap. His logic was that the header wrap would trap moisture (from humidity) against the metal in the mornings and lead to premature corrosion of the metal, it kinda makes sense.

Keeping the heat trapped in the LTHs btw, aside from possible keeping the engine bay slightly cooler, helps keep exhaust velocity higher as well.

Red__Zed · 10-26-2011, 10:19 PM

anyone who winds up with moisture issues wrapped their headers very wrong.

I put about 40k on my first jeep and 20k on my second one, with significant time offroading, in water, etc... had wrapped headers, no issues. On the heat front, my S2K saw much higher EGT's than you guys ever will, had no issues running wrapping downpipe, etc.

You need to wrap a cool pipe, and spray it when you are done.

Kingbaby · 10-26-2011, 10:47 PM

lots of misleading info in here!

that picture needs to be taken down...

Trips · 10-26-2011, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingbaby

lots of misleading info in here!

that picture needs to be taken down...

I agree to some extent since those were steel and don't apply here

10-25-2011, 01:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 419	ceramic coating is worthwhile, but wrapping it isn't good for a DD -- just becomes a place for moisture to collect and lead to rusting. If you can get a serious high temp coating on there that's not too expensive, I'd do it, especially if the header is mild steel or average quality SS. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

10-25-2011, 10:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 419	That's probably from the temperature differential between wrapped and unwrapped areas on the header. Yeah, uniform high temp coating is definitely better. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

10-26-2011, 10:08 PM	#4 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3595	When I bought my FI LTH's, Tony advised me that if I was going to do something to trap heat, to go with the coating instead of a header wrap. His logic was that the header wrap would trap moisture (from humidity) against the metal in the mornings and lead to premature corrosion of the metal, it kinda makes sense. Keeping the heat trapped in the LTHs btw, aside from possible keeping the engine bay slightly cooler, helps keep exhaust velocity higher as well. __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

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10-26-2011, 10:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 121	anyone who winds up with moisture issues wrapped their headers very wrong. I put about 40k on my first jeep and 20k on my second one, with significant time offroading, in water, etc... had wrapped headers, no issues. On the heat front, my S2K saw much higher EGT's than you guys ever will, had no issues running wrapping downpipe, etc. You need to wrap a cool pipe, and spray it when you are done.