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Footloose301 08-05-2011 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1246760)
dang you got a shirt with yours!

Tonnnyy i demand motordyne underwear!

Stickers too:icon18:

daisuke149 08-05-2011 11:40 AM

i dunno man, stickers instead of underwear would be painful when i have to remove them.

ANMVQ 08-05-2011 12:48 PM

In for dyno.

Motordyne 08-05-2011 01:25 PM

Making progress on the new exhaust! :)

daisuke149 08-05-2011 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Motordyne (Post 1246978)
Making progress on the new exhaust! :)

thats what i wanna hear.

Now i just need all the other details from you as well!

NeverBoneStck 08-06-2011 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Motordyne (Post 1246978)
Making progress on the new exhaust! :)

Tik tok, tik tok

kool_yaar 08-07-2011 06:10 PM

These new titanium ceramic coated pipes look sick! Cant wait to get em installed! Just curious though is there some special components within the extra 'cylinder' that would cause the lifespan of these pipes to be lower than regular RTPs that tend to last forever? or will these pipes also last as long?

Thanks!

Methodical4u 08-07-2011 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1246993)
thats what i wanna hear.

Now i just need all the other details from you as well!

^^ this... Tony PLEASE get this thing going and ready... i'll have the whole Motordyne set-up from the XYZ back! I'm hopeful it will make more power than any other exhaust as the F.I. seems to be the king of CBE power gains so far.

Tony, is this exhaust being made to compliment your XYZ as well as the ART pipes to maximize power for those who already have it?

Last question, should I just start at the XYZ and move back as money becomes available or would the ART pipe yield the most gain for a first mod?

Motordyne 08-08-2011 08:47 AM

Details will be posted later but the trajectory of development is all good.

Footloose301 08-08-2011 10:28 AM

Can't wait :tup:

This is the only exhaust holding me back from picking up the FI CF catback.

Hope it surpasses their HP/TQ gains.

Methodical4u 08-08-2011 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Footloose301 (Post 1250523)
Can't wait :tup:

This is the only exhaust holding me back from picking up the FI CF catback.

Hope it surpasses their HP/TQ gains.

yeah, that and the ARK Type 1 are the ones I am interested in and of course the one MD are working on... it sucks waiting, but it may well be worth the wait.

TonyBPD 08-11-2011 05:19 PM

ART pipes were installed today. Excellent job by the guys at R/T Tuning in Landsdale PA!

First impressions-

The car feels much faster,especially in the higher RPM's. My drive home was pretty much all highway so it was a fun trip home. I thought that the car would be much louder,especially in the cabin but I was surprised. It sounds amazing!

Small issue -

Once the install was complete the guys at R/T brought me into the bay and pointed out something to me. I have the ARK CBE and I do get a small whistle type sound coming from the X-pipe of the exhaust. I know it was coming from the x-pipe because we were standing under the car as it was revved. There is definitely no leaks and who knows, this may go away once the ART pipes break in. Could also be the design of the ARK.

I will play it by ear it give it some time before I really worry about it.

daisuke149 08-11-2011 06:13 PM

can you post vide of how the ART sounds with the ARK.. other than your whistle i bet its just ... oh man awesome.

AlphaSnacks 08-11-2011 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyBPD (Post 1257044)
ART pipes were installed today. Excellent job by the guys at R/T Tuning in Landsdale PA!

First impressions-

The car feels much faster,especially in the higher RPM's. My drive home was pretty much all highway so it was a fun trip home. I thought that the car would be much louder,especially in the cabin but I was surprised. It sounds amazing!

Small issue -

Once the install was complete the guys at R/T brought me into the bay and pointed out something to me. I have the ARK CBE and I do get a small whistle type sound coming from the X-pipe of the exhaust. I know it was coming from the x-pipe because we were standing under the car as it was revved. There is definitely no leaks and who knows, this may go away once the ART pipes break in. Could also be the design of the ARK.

I will play it by ear it give it some time before I really worry about it.

The sound will get quieter, some of that boom will go away. And the whistling will go away, as well. There is a break in process with these pipes where they're going to make a few noises here and there - don't worry about it, just drive hard and it'll all settle down.

TonyBPD 08-11-2011 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnold K. (Post 1257566)
The sound will get quieter, some of that boom will go away. And the whistling will go away, as well. There is a break in process with these pipes where they're going to make a few noises here and there - don't worry about it, just drive hard and it'll all settle down.

Thank you sir! Makes me feel better for sure

Footloose301 08-12-2011 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 1246901)
In for dyno.

http://www.the370z.com/tuning/40977-...st-intake.html

Methodical4u 08-12-2011 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Footloose301 (Post 1258772)

Good stuff... add in some pulleys and maybe some headers and you'll add what? Maybe 15 more up? I don't know how much headers add.... an xyz y pipe would be cool too.

Footloose301 08-12-2011 03:19 PM

Yeah pulleys, headers, and clutch/flywheel combo are next

Methodical4u 08-12-2011 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Footloose301 (Post 1258935)
Yeah pulleys, headers, and clutch/flywheel combo are next

It would be great to get up to like 350 hp on a mustang dyno for me NA. I don't think that will happen. Maybe when GTM cracks the VVEL but other than that... probably not :(

christian370z 08-12-2011 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Methodical4u (Post 1259130)
It would be great to get up to like 350 hp on a mustang dyno for me NA. I don't think that will happen. Maybe when GTM cracks the VVEL but other than that... probably not :(

It is very unlike that you will see more than 330rwhp out of these cars with full bolt ons. If you do, the dyno is a bit optimistic. If a mustang dyno reads that high, you know that it was either not calibrated properly or was deliberately programmed to read high.

Methodical4u 08-13-2011 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 1259526)
It is very unlike that you will see more than 330rwhp out of these cars with full bolt ons. If you do, the dyno is a bit optimistic. If a mustang dyno reads that high, you know that it was either not calibrated properly or was deliberately programmed to read high.

The 370 is a fairly light car though.. if I see 320-330 on a mustang dyno, take out the spare tire, another 10-15 lbs for exhaust, a smaller battery etc, etc... maybe lose a little driver weight and you've got a pretty damn fast Z... faster than many cars on the road anyway. I'd say it's pretty good for an NA V6... IMO of course.

Footloose301 08-13-2011 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 1259526)
It is very unlike that you will see more than 330rwhp out of these cars with full bolt ons. If you do, the dyno is a bit optimistic. If a mustang dyno reads that high, you know that it was either not calibrated properly or was deliberately programmed to read high.

I agree.

339whp/252lbfttq..... Claims "red6spd" on a mustang dyno. That's the highest I've seen here on the forum. Either it's a freak motor, or the dyno isn't calibrated. No way he should be hitting that. Some people only make 10-20hp more with superchargers....

christian370z 08-13-2011 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Methodical4u (Post 1259611)
The 370 is a fairly light car though.. if I see 320-330 on a mustang dyno, take out the spare tire, another 10-15 lbs for exhaust, a smaller battery etc, etc... maybe lose a little driver weight and you've got a pretty damn fast Z... faster than many cars on the road anyway. I'd say it's pretty good for an NA V6... IMO of course.

Oh of course, I definitely agree with you there! The thing about the Z is that it really doesn't feel as fast as it is due to the lack of torque, but it can move.

Motordyne 08-13-2011 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 1259826)
Oh of course, I definitely agree with you there! The thing about the Z is that it really doesn't feel as fast as it is due to the lack of torque, but it can move.

The 370Z feels like a rocket to me. Certainly better than the 350. The 370 has much more TQ than many other NA import sport cars. Take the S2000 for example. Its fast when wound up on the road course, but the S2000 really has no TQ.

Conversely, the American muscle cars are overflowing with power and torque which is great, but their stock suspension is so bad its like driving a boat on Novocaine.

For a NA car, the 370 has a good balance of everything in stock form.

Methodical4u 08-13-2011 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Motordyne (Post 1259940)
The 370Z feels like a rocket to me. Certainly better than the 350. The 370 has much more TQ than many other NA import sport cars. Take the S2000 for example. Its fast when wound up on the road course, but the S2000 really has no TQ.

Conversely, the American muscle cars are overflowing with power and torque which is great, but their stock suspension is so bad its like driving a boat on Novocaine.

For a NA car, the 370 has a good balance of everything in stock form.

:icon17: I should sig that!

Paskii 08-17-2011 12:17 PM

Hi everyone,

Another short review/feedback for the Motordyne ART pipes. First off I would like to thank you Mariella from Motordyne for being so helpful when shipping the product over. Also thank you DjSquall for referring me to Alphawerx to do the install, they were professional and good people to work with. Oh by the way ART pipes is installed onto the stock exhaust, only other MOD is Sprint Booster. I don't have any pics yet will see if Alphawerx have any.

The product: It was packaged well so no issues with the ART pipes, overall I was pleased with the craftmanship. Not to mention its very light compared to the stock cats.

Install: From what I heard it was quite diffcult to remove the bolts, it was rusty and took a bit more time I believe but overall pretty straightfoward. No leaks from what I gather.

Sound: Very little difference between stock when you start the car, its slightly deeper. Like Kastley said there is no rasp when pushing the car, there is a slight hiss around 1500-2k RPM.

Performance: Definitely an improve on torque throughout the bands and very likely som gains in hp, didn't dyno the car so I don't any numbers. Overall I'm quite impressed with the ART pipes, seems to have all the benefits of test pipes minus the rasp. I imagine if the ART pipes are bolted with the upcoming Motordyne exhaust it would sound pretty sweet.

Potential Cons: Potential meaning I'm not sure if this problem is due to the product. This is day 2 of having the ART pipes but I noticed some fumes coming from the car, smells similar to gasoline but not sure. Anyone else experiencing this? You smell it when you start up the car and if you are stuck in traffic idling you will notice it as well. Note I didn't reset the BCM or unplug the battery, would that change anything? Also I notice that my gauge that displays how much mileage is left until I need to refill changed dramatically. Mileage dropped, not sure why either.

Overall Impression: I had a good run in poker so I had some extra cash to buy this and it was worth it, if anyone is looking to improve the 370z performance should definitely look into this.

Methodical4u 08-17-2011 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Paskii (Post 1266213)
Hi everyone,

Another short review/feedback for the Motordyne ART pipes. First off I would like to thank you Mariella from Motordyne for being so helpful when shipping the product over. Also thank you DjSquall for referring me to Alphawerx to do the install, they were professional and good people to work with. Oh by the way ART pipes is installed onto the stock exhaust, only other MOD is Sprint Booster. I don't have any pics yet will see if Alphawerx have any.

The product: It was packaged well so no issues with the ART pipes, overall I was pleased with the craftmanship. Not to mention its very light compared to the stock cats.

Install: From what I heard it was quite diffcult to remove the bolts, it was rusty and took a bit more time I believe but overall pretty straightfoward. No leaks from what I gather.

Sound: Very little difference between stock when you start the car, its slightly deeper. Like Kastley said there is no rasp when pushing the car, there is a slight hiss around 1500-2k RPM.

Performance: Definitely an improve on torque throughout the bands and very likely som gains in hp, didn't dyno the car so I don't any numbers. Overall I'm quite impressed with the ART pipes, seems to have all the benefits of test pipes minus the rasp. I imagine if the ART pipes are bolted with the upcoming Motordyne exhaust it would sound pretty sweet.

Potential Cons: Potential meaning I'm not sure if this problem is due to the product. This is day 2 of having the ART pipes but I noticed some fumes coming from the car, smells similar to gasoline but not sure. Anyone else experiencing this? You smell it when you start up the car and if you are stuck in traffic idling you will notice it as well. Note I didn't reset the BCM or unplug the battery, would that change anything?

Tony has stated that it takes about 1500 miles for the pipes to go through all 3 stages to where the heat and such basically breaks them in. I don't remember what he called the 3... but that is likely part of what you are smelling... also keep in mind these are still test pipes and with them will come a smell more than likely... the exhaust is very open and the cats are not there to catch a lot of the junk that normally they would do.

Thanks for the review... mine come in I think tomorrow or Friday and will go on this week, so i'll have a review as well :)

daisuke149 08-17-2011 12:29 PM

no the smell you are getting is going to be common from anything without cats and even some low count HFC as well.

There is nothing you can do about that except to perhaps roll your windows up.

I hardly ever get the smell even with my windows down unless the breeze is pushing the exhaust back towards the front.

But otherwise, yeah the sounds pretty awesome aint it!

Motordyne 08-17-2011 12:33 PM

Hi Paskii,

Yeah, that's a normal smell from the engine without a catalytic converter. Test pipes or ART pipes will do this. Catalytic converters will be an option incorporated into the Motordyne exhaust so that won't be a problem.

AlphaSnacks 08-17-2011 01:45 PM

That smell lets people behind you know what the deal is:

Power, motherf*cker. :)

Paskii 08-17-2011 02:01 PM

Wooo everyone responded quickly!

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Originally Posted by Methodical4u (Post 1266230)
Tony has stated that it takes about 1500 miles for the pipes to go through all 3 stages to where the heat and such basically breaks them in. I don't remember what he called the 3... but that is likely part of what you are smelling... also keep in mind these are still test pipes and with them will come a smell more than likely... the exhaust is very open and the cats are not there to catch a lot of the junk that normally they would do.

Thanks for the review... mine come in I think tomorrow or Friday and will go on this week, so i'll have a review as well :)

Cool I didn't know you had to drive for 1500 miles to break it in. Your right Tony and Daisuke also confirmed that the smell is normal for ART pipes so no concerns on my end. Nice, I think your going to enjoy this mod :tup:

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1266246)
no the smell you are getting is going to be common from anything without cats and even some low count HFC as well.

There is nothing you can do about that except to perhaps roll your windows up.

I hardly ever get the smell even with my windows down unless the breeze is pushing the exhaust back towards the front.

But otherwise, yeah the sounds pretty awesome aint it!

Yeah I have to check if I get the smell with the windows up and if the wind is pushing it from the back, some people like the fumes but I get a headache after awhile and I feel blitz, like I smoked really cheap erbs lol. But yeah the sound is pretty sweet especially when you downshift :happydance:

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Originally Posted by Motordyne (Post 1266253)
Hi Paskii,

Yeah, that's a normal smell from the engine without a catalytic converter. Test pipes or ART pipes will do this. Catalytic converters will be an option incorporated into the Motordyne exhaust so that won't be a problem.

Thanks Tony for confirming whether this is normal or not. It's a good idea to have the cat converters as an option, any updates for the exhaust?

fuct 08-17-2011 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnold K. (Post 1266372)
That smell lets people behind you know what the deal is:

Power, motherf*cker. :)

:tup:

TonyBPD 08-17-2011 02:36 PM

I posted earlier about a nasty sound I'm getting from the x-pipe in my ARK cat back. I think I'm gonna get that piece of the exhaust modified and replaced with 2 separate pipes. Thoughts?

G37sHKS 08-17-2011 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyBPD (Post 1266515)
I posted earlier about a nasty sound I'm getting from the x-pipe in my ARK cat back. I think I'm gonna get that piece of the exhaust modified and replaced with 2 separate pipes. Thoughts?

Wait for Motordyne Exhaust.

TonyBPD 08-17-2011 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by G37sHKS (Post 1266539)
Wait for Motordyne Exhaust.

I plan on that but in the mean time that sound has to go!

Urbanracer 08-17-2011 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyBPD (Post 1266515)
I posted earlier about a nasty sound I'm getting from the x-pipe in my ARK cat back. I think I'm gonna get that piece of the exhaust modified and replaced with 2 separate pipes. Thoughts?

The x-pipe is what gives the ark its "signiture sound" as ark puts it. Changing out the x-pipe to two pipes will make it similar to the HKS system. If I was in your position I'd fab up a pipe based on HKS's design. The x-pipe is pretty much why I went HKS instead of ark. I'd be interested in hearing it once you get it changed over.

kosstick 08-17-2011 08:40 PM

Have had the replacement pipes on for about 400 miles. First impression

0-300 miles no problems

After 300 I started to get the rattle my first batch had and it seemed to increase when going uphill.

After about 380 that rattle started go away and a bigger rattle came in its place (sounds like metal banging on metal)

Can anyone give me some insight if this is correct. From what I can remember my first batch of art pipes didn't rattle as bad as these are.

Current Mileage about 400

TonyBPD 08-17-2011 08:50 PM

Do you have a pic of that exhaust? I think ill be fine with 2 separate pipes. I listed the system for sale but no bites on it.

Osiris 08-17-2011 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Paskii (Post 1266213)
Sound: Very little difference between stock when you start the car, its slightly deeper.

This concerns me; i'd like my car to have some sound to it. I know Paskii has stock cat back, but is anyone else besides Footloose going to post a video of how it sounds? Looking to hear some more with these pipes and various cat backs.

daisuke149 08-17-2011 09:23 PM

after this weekend i should have some of the art with CNT>


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