Hey Tony... what is that outside coating again? Ceramic titanium? I assume it won't ever need to be coated with any kind of high temp paint or anything correct?

Any word on that exhaust yet? hehe... thought i'd sneak that in there after I saw a 350 with 317 whp and 272 torque with the ART pipes and your TDX exhaust... very impressive numbers.

Titanium

Just a little over a hundred miles on mine and so far not a sound.

OK good. Then you certainly don't have the ceramic beads in there then. Its probably just the silica coated fiberglass going through break in. Let me know how it goes.

You have the Titanium and it won't ever need to be coated again. The pipes are made of stainless steel so even if there is a scratch it won't matter. They will last the life of your car.

The new exhaust is being worked on now. And it is very different from anything else.

That sounds awesome!

Update on ART Pipes
 

Hi everyone,

Another short review/feedback for the Motordyne ART pipes. First off I would like to thank you Mariella from Motordyne for being so helpful when shipping the product over. Also thank you DjSquall for referring me to Alphawerx to do the install, they were professional and good people to work with. Oh by the way ART pipes is installed onto the stock exhaust, only other MOD is Sprint Booster. I don't have any pics yet will see if Alphawerx have any.

The product: It was packaged well so no issues with the ART pipes, overall I was pleased with the craftmanship. Not to mention its very light compared to the stock cats.

Install: From what I heard it was quite diffcult to remove the bolts, it was rusty and took a bit more time I believe but overall pretty straightfoward. No leaks from what I gather.

Sound: Very little difference between stock when you start the car, its slightly deeper. Like Kastley said there is no rasp when pushing the car, there is a slight hiss around 1500-2k RPM.

Performance: Definitely an improve on torque throughout the bands and very likely som gains in hp, didn't dyno the car so I don't any numbers. Overall I'm quite impressed with the ART pipes, seems to have all the benefits of test pipes minus the rasp. I imagine if the ART pipes are bolted with the upcoming Motordyne exhaust it would sound pretty sweet.
Update: It's not as loud now, sound has deepen and gas mileage has improved from 15L/100KM to 12L/100KM.

Potential Cons: Potential meaning I'm not sure if this problem is due to the product. This is day 2 of having the ART pipes but I noticed some fumes coming from the car, smells similar to gasoline but not sure. Anyone else experiencing this? You smell it when you start up the car and if you are stuck in traffic idling you will notice it as well. Note I didn't reset the BCM or unplug the battery, would that change anything? Also I notice that my gauge that displays how much mileage is left until I need to refill changed dramatically. Mileage dropped, not sure why either.
Update: Tony confirmed that the smell is normal. I also did a reset and the mileage gauge is back to normal.

Overall Impression: I had a good run in poker so I had some extra cash to buy this and it was worth it, if anyone is looking to improve the 370z performance should definitely look into this.

That smell is definitely normal. At first, it was a little overbearing to me, but it's not that noticeable after a while. It will become normal. I'm pretty sure that Tony says the upcoming exhaust is possibly going to eliminate the strong smell and rasp. (Correct me if I'm wrong, Tony.)

Try not to worry about the smell. It lets everyone behind you know what's up.

you can only eliminate the smell by having cats in the path

with his exhaust you can have optional cat in there to eliminate the smell.

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The smell is from not having cats in the system. Its completely normal for all test pipes and ART pipes.

At least for me, the smell doesn't mean anything but for thoes who are sensitive to it, adding in cats is easy. It will all be taken care of in the new exhaust.;)

Can't wait to see the results :tup:

So can you give me an idea of how much power I would gain with the ART pipes over a set of HFC's? I want the ART pipes but not the smell. I already have a CBE so if I change out everything, I would like it to be worth the extra effort expense. I don't think it would be worth it to gain like 3-5 hp for close to $1000 more expense.

When I say change out everything, I mean sell my Berk CBE and buy the Motordyne one with the cat built in.

I just cannot wait for his exhaust to get finished... hopefully it's going to be soon and based on some of the numbers i've seen with his exhaust on the 350z, it will be worth the wait.

I will be watching this thread.

After watching videos and reading reviews about their 350Z exhaust I must say it appears to be very impressive. The Y pipe going into a resonance chamber looks kinda korny to me. I always prefer the dual. But, if it works, don't question it.

Heres a review of the ART pipes and their TDX vs "Brand X" where they prove the "myth".
Nissan 350Z Motordyne ART Products - Fact Or Fiction - Import Tuner Magazine

Lets wait for the system to be released and then we can do all kinds of independent dynos for the various configurations.

And there is more than one.:tiphat:

That was the system in production just prior to the release of the TDX. So that picture is not of the TDX.

But that resonator chamber you refer to is also a module. A XYZ pipe interchangeable module where you can put in a straight pipe, resonator or HFC depending on the application. It gives a lot of flexibility for various applications.

In fact, the TDX is simply one more option that was built onto the XYZ pipe to create the True Dual X pipe (TDX) exhaust system.

The new exhaust for the 370Z is entirely new and completely different from anything else. Unlike anything you have ever seen or heard with all kinds of new functionality.

Independent dynos will be mandatory. In fact, we should organize a shoot out because this is one that everybody will want to see.

So I can assume this is going to work with a forced induction setup?

Having several options is going to be nice.

100%.

Looking forward to see the prototypes.

Yes... I am so excited to see and hear the results.

Have you guys focused on weight reduction at all for the new exhaust? That's one of the very few things I don't like about my Berk, it adds weight over the stock exhaust. I don't want some crazy expensive Titanium exhaust, but something that weighs less than stock (like the FI) would be great. I know it probably won't make much of a difference, but always better to reduce weight than to add it :tup:

I have a feeling the Motordyne will be the best exhaust out there...

I do too. I already have a friend ready to buy my exhaust if I make the switch. :rofl2:

Best thing is I won't lose any money on it because of the price I bought it for.

Question,, will the pipes work with the GTM stage 2 SC, will they hit the SC ?

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Same guess here.

Yeah, F.I. and Motordyne will likely have the most power outputs... i'm interested to see what ARK's systems does as well.... I have to say though after having the ART pipes, I just feel Tony will find a way to make more power with his exhaust set-up(s).

Any idea or estimate for when this system will be done? I was pretty sold on the ART pipes until I read about the smell so I really want to see how it'll be with their CBE.

Also, I don't prefer too much noise (drawing unwanted attention and annoying people at night) so if there is a less noisy/more stealthy option like IF has with their 18" resonators, that would be awesome.

A group buy when they are released would be nice too.

The smell is not annoying at all and it's caused on all test pipes because its unrestricted.

Also, I highly doubt the exhaust will be loud or raspy. The ART pipes make LESS noise than high flow cats!!! They're almost like stock cats. Seriously.

Yeah, but if the CBE is coming soon, I might just wait and do both at once. My gf might not be too happy about me releasing bad (uncatted) fumes as well which she'll notice from the smell, haha.

all test pipes without cats will have the smell. Some HFC which are extremely low cell count can give this smell also.

the motordyne exhaust will have multiple options so people can tailor it to their wants. I believe tony mentioned things like straight piping the middle = louder, resonated = mid, catted for no smell and quieter.

Yep. I'm going to pick up the resonated as long as its atleast 2.5" and hopefully its rather light weight or has "cool" options such as carbon fiber mufflers.

Dyno's are a must. Seems like Tony is doing his homework here and I'm sure he'll have some graphs to salivate over.

Yeah, I am interested in catted one to go along with the test pipe for no smell. I don't mind if the volume isn't high as long as there's a low growl/rumble.

So any idea on an estimated release date, Motordyne? =D

Probably looking at 2012.

I dont wanna speak for Tony, but I think he was looking to do a dyno shoot out for diff exhausts. Other than that I believe he said that he would rely upon dyno's done by people to show the gains.

Darn. I know I'll test it if it looks and sounds good. If he can verify "No Rasp" like Fast Intentions then I'm interested.

hopefully, early 2012 and not like fall or something, haha. Well, i barely broke my Z in last week so it's probably best for me to have a few months driving it stock to see what I really want/need. The ART pipe gains sound like just what I want though, and if the CBE can give me more and get rid of the smell, awesome.

If you want the ART pipes without the smell, I don't know Tony's plans, but he might be a HFC somewhere in the CBE. Otherwise you will need the XYZ pipe with the HFC. He's going to make a set-up for that too.

Another significant break through in exhaust technology was achieved today and it will be incorporated into the 370Z exhaust system. Filing for a new patent now. ;)

This just keeps getting more and more fun. :)

Don't tease man... how long how long!!!

We need to set up independent dynos ASAP. Working on it now.

It will be implemented into the new exhaust and into the XYZ pipe as a module. It will even be made available as a separate for other vehicles too.


I'm really excited about this one.