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Jordo! 07-03-2010 03:16 PM

Oh, BTW, I went back to more carefully scrutinize those dynos in the other thread --

While mean gains after 3.25K were just under 5 whp/wtq, peak gains were as high as 10 whp/wtq! That's insane for just an air filter!

6spd 07-03-2010 04:54 PM

oh yeah, they are very good for just filters. a throttle response change is commonplace because of the lowered restriction, but actual HP over the entire rpm range, thats a total bonus.

atl370z 07-03-2010 04:56 PM

Just got back from dyno today. Did three pulls and here are the results.
1st 279hp
2nd 278hp
3rd 279hp

My car is bone stock with only k&N drop in.
All the other stock 370zs put down average around 275hp and 277hp.
But, there were another bone stock 370z put down 279hp on one of the pull though.
I am not sure if I actually get any gain from the k&n drop in:confused:

flashburn 07-03-2010 05:20 PM

Why would you not just swap out filters while it's already on a dyno? Do you not have the stock filters anymore? You can't just blindly compare other people's dyno results to yours, it doesn't work that way.

Jordo! 07-03-2010 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atl370z (Post 605141)
Just got back from dyno today. Did three pulls and here are the results.
1st 279hp
2nd 278hp
3rd 279hp

My car is bone stock with only k&N drop in.
All the other stock 370zs put down average around 275hp and 277hp.
But, there were another bone stock 370z put down 279hp on one of the pull though.
I am not sure if I actually get any gain from the k&n drop in:confused:

Yeah... do you still have the paper filters on hand? I'd re-do that if you have the time and extra cash...

Also, just curious, but how much torque? They didn't give you a dynoplot?

Oh, and auto or manual? There's not much difference between the two on the dyno, but certainly enough of a difference to obscure the impact of a higher flow filter.

atl370z 07-03-2010 06:54 PM

I don't have the stock filter anymore, but something is for sure. I did not get more than 5hp gain. :tiphat:

atl370z 07-03-2010 07:08 PM

my car is a 09 manual with 4k miles. the torque dyno results are:
1st 236.71
2nd 236.98
3rd 237.36

if these helps

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 605294)
Yeah... do you still have the paper filters on hand? I'd re-do that if you have the time and extra cash...

Also, just curious, but how much torque? They didn't give you a dynoplot?

Oh, and auto or manual? There's not much difference between the two on the dyno, but certainly enough of a difference to obscure the impact of a higher flow filter.


6spd 07-03-2010 10:16 PM

well thats peak hp, the dyno chart would reveal the larger gain areas for sure.

Cmike2780 07-03-2010 10:28 PM

Any increase would make it a worthwhile investment given that it doesn't cost all that much. If it gets even a third of the gain from a Stillen G3 intake, it's done it's job. You really can't compare your result with other Z's. Like you said, other stock Z's put down different numbers. Your stock setup could have been one of the low numbers and gained a few with the drop in's. Post your chart if you can.

atl370z 07-04-2010 12:29 AM

There you go,
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._6130156_n.jpg
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 605643)
Any increase would make it a worthwhile investment given that it doesn't cost all that much. If it gets even a third of the gain from a Stillen G3 intake, it's done it's job. You really can't compare your result with other Z's. Like you said, other stock Z's put down different numbers. Your stock setup could have been one of the low numbers and gained a few with the drop in's. Post your chart if you can.


daisuke149 07-04-2010 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atl370z (Post 605856)

i shoulda taken pictures of mine too. : ( i still dont have them in my e-mail.

Cmike2780 07-04-2010 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atl370z (Post 605856)

Thanks for posting the chart. Nothing really jumps out. I could be mistaken, but most of the stock Z's usually peak @ around 275-276 hp. I think thats what Stillen uses as a baseline. Still worth it in my book. With a 4hp gain it's around $20/hp compared to around $72/hp (18hp) for a Stillen CBE & $ around 30/hp for the Stillen Gen3 CAI (17hp).

I've seen Dyno runs with the G37 hitting 288hp so this whole post is most likely moot. Conditions need to be exact to have acurate comparisons. Even then, you have variations. Just goes to show how we should treat Dyno charts with a grain of salt.

6spd 07-05-2010 08:41 AM

^^ I agree. Dyno charting is far from an exact science in most conditions.

Modshack 07-05-2010 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 607146)
^^ I agree. Dyno charting is far from an exact science in most conditions.


and 5hp is well within expected variances from run to run (with no changes)

6spd 07-05-2010 11:06 AM

oh yeah, no doubt.


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