Intake Confusion...Need some opinions!

MichaelM · 08-12-2010, 12:57 PM

I've been looking into the following Intake Systems:

Injen CAI
Stillen G3 CAI

Then I started looking at: and I know I'm dealing with two different animals

HKS Intake System Racing Suction Reloaded
Stillen Intake System not the ultra long

THOUGHTS

THE MODS I HAVE AT THIS POINT INCLUDE: Greddy Spectrum Elite CB Exhaust, Berk HFC and a Sprint Booster.

NYBladeZ · 08-12-2010, 01:13 PM

you are best off with a long tube intake such as the G3's or Injen (which is more expensive). The reason being is that the design keeps the filters as far away from the engine compartment as possible thus ensuring you are always getting cold air. The problem with the HKS system and any short ram system is that they usually do not come with heat shields. Thus over time as the engine warms up and the entire compartment heats up, your intakes are in the "hot zone", pull in hot air, and give you little to no power increase. Infact some have reported that they lose power. I see you've been posting about intakes awhile now so if you have any questions PM me, no reason to go on starting threads that don't get answers.

JACKPAC · 08-12-2010, 01:15 PM

You will probably get a lot of advice that basically says... don't get the short ram intake due to heat soak. Always go for the long one! I've heard that size matters.

Edit: NYBladeZ beat me to it!

AK370Z · 08-12-2010, 01:15 PM

If you're gonna go with a CAI, with STILLEN intakes IMO. I love the aggressive sound. However, stock OEM intake is the BEST in my honest opinion for these cars.

Holliday · 08-12-2010, 01:15 PM

Your best bet is long tube (cold air). It will have the best gains. You are going to have to remove the bumper to service them but it is a couple of bolts a push clips. I opted for the Injen CAI because I like the dry flow filters they use over the K&N ones that need to be washed and oiled. I also like the painted black option. If you have ever had polished intakes you know they are a pain to keep looking new.

To make the right choice, use the new (advanced) search function. There are tons of reviews and details about the systems you are looking at. Either way, good luck with your choice!

NYBladeZ · 08-12-2010, 01:43 PM

I'm with AK, the thing with aftermarket intakes is that you don't feel the gains until very high in the rpm range.

tjlazer · 08-12-2010, 04:42 PM

I got K&N Typhoon HAI's and I got around ~6 HP incease across the board and it was almost 20 degrees hotter the day I did that run. So I know for sure I would of got a few extra ponies out if it was the same conditions.

So if you want to go cheaper and easier, you can get this one (atleast) Not sure on the other hot air intakes! But IMHO better than stock.

MichaelM · 08-13-2010, 09:35 AM

Thank you all for the intel.....I now have a much better understanding of which way to go....I think I'll stay stock.....michaelm...semper fi

gaveup · 08-19-2010, 01:07 PM

Has anyone actually logged IAT's to prove that the G3's are pulling in cooler air than say the K&N or JWT pop chargers? Or is this just one of those "some random guy on a forum said it, it's true" type of things?

I don't really see any hard data to back up the claims I see people making on here. Dynos are nice, but they don't prove much as day to day conditions change.

Joebarchuck · 08-19-2010, 02:01 PM

All the reviews out there show the Stillen G3 intake offers the most HP as shown by independent, non-biased test.

gaveup · 08-19-2010, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joebarchuck

All the reviews out there show the Stillen G3 intake offers the most HP as shown by independent, non-biased test.

Correct, but is it possible the placement of their mafs cause the car to run leaner? If so, that alone would provide a higher gain wouldn't it?

Vegitto-kun · 08-19-2010, 02:35 PM

yes they do but the car apparently runs alittle rich stock

Joebarchuck · 08-19-2010, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaveup

Correct, but is it possible the placement of their mafs cause the car to run leaner? If so, that alone would provide a higher gain wouldn't it?

It all goes back to what you want to do with the car. I like Stillen not just for the products but also because they are in California easily accessible and if something goes wrong they try to help you.

christian370z · 08-19-2010, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joebarchuck

It all goes back to what you want to do with the car. I like Stillen not just for the products but also because they are in California easily accessible and if something goes wrong they try to help you.

Exactly, I love being 10 minutes away. They also have good customer service so if something goes wrong, they are happy to take care of you and fix the problem. That said, I absolutely love my Stillen G3 intakes; the car has a whole new attitude with them, especially high up in the rev range and really brought the car to life.

Jamaica · 08-19-2010, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by christian370z

Exactly, I love being 10 minutes away. They also have good customer service so if something goes wrong, they are happy to take care of you and fix the problem. That said, I absolutely love my Stillen G3 intakes; the car has a whole new attitude with them, especially high up in the rev range and really brought the car to life.

I agree. Stillen is the best.

08-12-2010, 12:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
MichaelM Base Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 50 Drives: 010 Nissan 370Z QAB Rep Power: 15	Intake Confusion...Need some opinions! I've been looking into the following Intake Systems: Injen CAI Stillen G3 CAI Then I started looking at: and I know I'm dealing with two different animals HKS Intake System Racing Suction Reloaded Stillen Intake System not the ultra long THOUGHTS THE MODS I HAVE AT THIS POINT INCLUDE: Greddy Spectrum Elite CB Exhaust, Berk HFC and a Sprint Booster.

08-12-2010, 01:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 20	you are best off with a long tube intake such as the G3's or Injen (which is more expensive). The reason being is that the design keeps the filters as far away from the engine compartment as possible thus ensuring you are always getting cold air. The problem with the HKS system and any short ram system is that they usually do not come with heat shields. Thus over time as the engine warms up and the entire compartment heats up, your intakes are in the "hot zone", pull in hot air, and give you little to no power increase. Infact some have reported that they lose power. I see you've been posting about intakes awhile now so if you have any questions PM me, no reason to go on starting threads that don't get answers. __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

08-12-2010, 01:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
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08-12-2010, 01:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
Holliday Track Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Cache, OK Age: 38 Posts: 916 Drives: in the fast lane.... Rep Power: 16	Your best bet is long tube (cold air). It will have the best gains. You are going to have to remove the bumper to service them but it is a couple of bolts a push clips. I opted for the Injen CAI because I like the dry flow filters they use over the K&N ones that need to be washed and oiled. I also like the painted black option. If you have ever had polished intakes you know they are a pain to keep looking new. To make the right choice, use the new (advanced) search function. There are tons of reviews and details about the systems you are looking at. Either way, good luck with your choice! __________________

08-12-2010, 01:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 20	I'm with AK, the thing with aftermarket intakes is that you don't feel the gains until very high in the rpm range. __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

08-12-2010, 01:15 PM	#3 (permalink)
JACKPAC Track Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 516 Drives: MB 370z Rep Power: 16	You will probably get a lot of advice that basically says... don't get the short ram intake due to heat soak. Always go for the long one! I've heard that size matters. Edit: NYBladeZ beat me to it!

08-12-2010, 04:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
tjlazer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tacoma Age: 52 Posts: 2,496 Drives: Z34, R35 Rep Power: 19	I got K&N Typhoon HAI's and I got around ~6 HP incease across the board and it was almost 20 degrees hotter the day I did that run. So I know for sure I would of got a few extra ponies out if it was the same conditions. So if you want to go cheaper and easier, you can get this one (atleast) Not sure on the other hot air intakes! But IMHO better than stock. __________________ 2009 370Z Monterey Blue,Nismo Conversion,RE-11's, K&N Typhoon intakes,Blue Kickplates,Homelink,FI 18" CBE,ERZ HFCs,Hotchkis sways, Swift Spec-R, EVO-R Highwing, UPREV

08-13-2010, 09:35 AM	#8 (permalink)
MichaelM Base Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 50 Drives: 010 Nissan 370Z QAB Rep Power: 15	Thank you all for the intel.....I now have a much better understanding of which way to go....I think I'll stay stock.....michaelm...semper fi

08-19-2010, 01:07 PM	#9 (permalink)
gaveup Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Tamarac FL Posts: 324 Drives: 10 Nissan 370Z MB M6 Rep Power: 180	Has anyone actually logged IAT's to prove that the G3's are pulling in cooler air than say the K&N or JWT pop chargers? Or is this just one of those "some random guy on a forum said it, it's true" type of things? I don't really see any hard data to back up the claims I see people making on here. Dynos are nice, but they don't prove much as day to day conditions change.

08-19-2010, 02:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
Joebarchuck Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 202 Drives: 2010 370Z Roadster Rep Power: 14	All the reviews out there show the Stillen G3 intake offers the most HP as shown by independent, non-biased test. __________________ Red 2010 370Z Roadster: Stillen G3, Stillen Exhaust, Up-Rev Tune (312 RWHP), Eibach Pro Springs, 20mm spacers front and back, Rear Camber Kit, Tinted Windows, GT-R Start Button, Interior Mods

08-19-2010, 02:35 PM	#12 (permalink)
Vegitto-kun A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2,011 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 262	yes they do but the car apparently runs alittle rich stock

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