Comparison Vid: Stock, Stillen, and Berk :)

Nick911sc · 03-28-2010, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370

Nothing i've read has shown the car to be a freak, his dyno results are right on par with mine with similar mods. His dyno charts are legit with results that can be expected with each mod.

Gotcha, I just remember reading someplace about his car. Never doubted his results though.

Viera · 03-28-2010, 10:58 PM

Nice vid. You def. need to find another Z with an F.I. exhaust!

BOLIO 671 · 03-29-2010, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Viera

Nice vid. You def. need to find another Z with an F.I. exhaust!

100%

Mad Props to Spearfish and JB1 for putting this vid together...Awesome job guys.....

Red370 · 03-28-2010, 11:35 PM

Lets hear some input Semtex, i know you're lurking around somewhere...

adalsky · 03-29-2010, 10:00 AM

Awesome video...I love JB trying to see if it's recording or not. Stock exhaust is quiet.

JB1 · 03-29-2010, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by adalsky

Awesome video...I love JB trying to see if it's recording or not. Stock exhaust is quiet.

Yeah, lousy driver AND a lousy camera man...

Red370 · 03-29-2010, 11:39 AM

so im just going to make the assumption that the FI/Berk/Stillen make right around the same gains...

Question, for you stillen boys, did you think that your exhaust note became more tame the more miles you put on it? or is it because my ears have probably gotten used to it? Seems that even with the HFC's its almost too quiet for my taste.

Nick911sc · 03-29-2010, 01:58 PM

Hmm how much rasp are we talking here? Or are we talking normal aftermarket exhaust rasp..

Matt · 03-29-2010, 03:13 PM

There may be different definitions of rasp because I certainly haven't identified any from my system yet.

Viera · 03-29-2010, 03:32 PM

How are you guys liking the ERZ HFC compared with either the Berks or F.I.? Other than price...

spearfish25 · 03-29-2010, 05:08 PM

When I first added the Stillen CBE, there was no rasp at all. The sound initially was a bit quiet and it matured, getting louder with a bit of time.

Then I added the ERZ HFCs and out the shop door it was rasp like you wouldn't believe. I cringed initially thinking I had a problem. After about 100mi, the rasp settled down immensely. The only time I really notice rasp now is acceleration with a cold engine. Once things warm up, I wouldn't call it rasp. It's more a coarseness to the exhaust tone that gives it a racecar-ish feel. JB1's berk/berk setup is loud, deep and smooth. I don't get the mechanical sense from his exhaust note that the Stillen/ERZ combo has. However, I'm OK with that as the mechanical essence adds some interesting differences in my opinion. It's not unpalatable, just difference.

Red, I don't think it's gotten quieter, but I definitely am more used to it. I started thinking I could tolerate the noise of an F.I. exhaust perhaps...but that won't happen. Having compared the car to JB1s Berk setup, the Stillen/ERZ is near the same loudness level. In the car, the Berk combo is somewhat louder but perhaps because there are more lower frequencies, whereas the Stillen/ERZ setup has a bit more higher frequencies.

rsximus · 03-29-2010, 11:52 PM

Awesome video guys! Just what I was looking for.

In the video the Stillen sounds so much more refined, the Berk sounds like it just kinda growls up to redline with no soul, while the Stillen has a nice tone from start to finish with a beautiful note.

Unfortunately I just can't get past how ugly the Stillen tips are, and I don't want to modify a $1200+ exhaust after I just get it. WHY STILLEN? Why can't you make the tips more stock looking, the tips on the Stillen CBE looks like something from Need for Speed Underground, all it needs is flames shooting out of it.

I'm ordering the Berk, if one day Stillen decides to change the way their tip looks I'm sure their exhaust sales will go WAY UP. I'll be first in line to buy one. They have everything in check, decent price, good quality, great sound, great power too bad the tips ruined the whole deal.

spearfish25 · 03-30-2010, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by rsximus

Awesome video guys! Just what I was looking for.

In the video the Stillen sounds so much more refined, the Berk sounds like it just kinda growls up to redline with no soul, while the Stillen has a nice tone from start to finish with a beautiful note.

Unfortunately I just can't get past how ugly the Stillen tips are, and I don't want to modify a $1200+ exhaust after I just get it. WHY STILLEN? Why can't you make the tips more stock looking, the tips on the Stillen CBE looks like something from Need for Speed Underground, all it needs is flames shooting out of it.

I'm ordering the Berk, if one day Stillen decides to change the way their tip looks I'm sure their exhaust sales will go WAY UP. I'll be first in line to buy one. They have everything in check, decent price, good quality, great sound, great power too bad the tips ruined the whole deal.

Initially I wasn't too sure about what I thought of the Stillen tips. The shop that installed mine tucked them in as far as they could which I definitely prefer. A few guys on the site have the tips hanging really far out which I'm not fond of at all. After a week or so with the car, I have to say I actually love the tips. From behind they look huge and fill the fascia cutouts completely. From a side view, they just give the 'hey, I'm not stock' look. It's one of those things that you might like more in person.

If you're more of a sleeper look kind of guy, go for the Berk. You'll be really happy with either.

As for tone, I would say the Berk is more refined/smooth. The Stillen has a bit more mechanical wildness/raucousness to the overall sound (take it for what you will, I like it...but I'm biased since I've invested in it).

BOLIO 671 · 03-30-2010, 06:06 AM

^^^^Great review and good advice Spear

HATED1 · 08-24-2010, 05:23 PM

thank you for the great video!

03-28-2010, 11:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 297	Lets hear some input Semtex, i know you're lurking around somewhere... __________________ 2011 Mustang 5.0 \| 3.55's \| Lethal Performance off road H-Pipe \| Magnaflow Muffler Delete \| JLT CAI/Bama tuned 417whp/ 404 ft/lbs

03-29-2010, 11:39 AM	#7 (permalink)
Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 297	so im just going to make the assumption that the FI/Berk/Stillen make right around the same gains... Question, for you stillen boys, did you think that your exhaust note became more tame the more miles you put on it? or is it because my ears have probably gotten used to it? Seems that even with the HFC's its almost too quiet for my taste. __________________ 2011 Mustang 5.0 \| 3.55's \| Lethal Performance off road H-Pipe \| Magnaflow Muffler Delete \| JLT CAI/Bama tuned 417whp/ 404 ft/lbs

03-29-2010, 03:13 PM	#9 (permalink)
Matt A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Augusta, GA Age: 42 Posts: 1,680 Drives: 2010 Avalanche LT Rep Power: 19	There may be different definitions of rasp because I certainly haven't identified any from my system yet. __________________ "Any man who can drive a 370z while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the Z the attention it deserves." Albert Einstein....modified.

03-29-2010, 05:08 PM	#11 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1857	When I first added the Stillen CBE, there was no rasp at all. The sound initially was a bit quiet and it matured, getting louder with a bit of time. Then I added the ERZ HFCs and out the shop door it was rasp like you wouldn't believe. I cringed initially thinking I had a problem. After about 100mi, the rasp settled down immensely. The only time I really notice rasp now is acceleration with a cold engine. Once things warm up, I wouldn't call it rasp. It's more a coarseness to the exhaust tone that gives it a racecar-ish feel. JB1's berk/berk setup is loud, deep and smooth. I don't get the mechanical sense from his exhaust note that the Stillen/ERZ combo has. However, I'm OK with that as the mechanical essence adds some interesting differences in my opinion. It's not unpalatable, just difference. Red, I don't think it's gotten quieter, but I definitely am more used to it. I started thinking I could tolerate the noise of an F.I. exhaust perhaps...but that won't happen. Having compared the car to JB1s Berk setup, the Stillen/ERZ is near the same loudness level. In the car, the Berk combo is somewhat louder but perhaps because there are more lower frequencies, whereas the Stillen/ERZ setup has a bit more higher frequencies. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

03-30-2010, 06:06 AM	#14 (permalink)
BOLIO 671 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: GUAHAN Posts: 1,198 Drives: To & From then Back Rep Power: 3400	^^^^Great review and good advice Spear __________________ 2013 Nismo Z34 / FI TT #091 / IG: @lilzilla_z34

03-28-2010, 10:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
Viera Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 897 Drives: '09 M.Blue 370Z 6MT Rep Power: 265	Nice vid. You def. need to find another Z with an F.I. exhaust!

03-29-2010, 10:00 AM	#5 (permalink)
adalsky Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 53 Drives: 10 370z 40th Ann. Rep Power: 16	Awesome video...I love JB trying to see if it's recording or not. Stock exhaust is quiet.

03-29-2010, 01:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
Nick911sc A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 1,698 Drives: 2010 Nissan GT-R Rep Power: 21	Hmm how much rasp are we talking here? Or are we talking normal aftermarket exhaust rasp..

03-29-2010, 03:32 PM	#10 (permalink)
Viera Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 897 Drives: '09 M.Blue 370Z 6MT Rep Power: 265	How are you guys liking the ERZ HFC compared with either the Berks or F.I.? Other than price...

03-29-2010, 11:52 PM	#12 (permalink)
rsximus Base Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Oxnard Posts: 37 Drives: 2007 335i, 2009 370Z Rep Power: 16	Awesome video guys! Just what I was looking for. In the video the Stillen sounds so much more refined, the Berk sounds like it just kinda growls up to redline with no soul, while the Stillen has a nice tone from start to finish with a beautiful note. Unfortunately I just can't get past how ugly the Stillen tips are, and I don't want to modify a $1200+ exhaust after I just get it. WHY STILLEN? Why can't you make the tips more stock looking, the tips on the Stillen CBE looks like something from Need for Speed Underground, all it needs is flames shooting out of it. I'm ordering the Berk, if one day Stillen decides to change the way their tip looks I'm sure their exhaust sales will go WAY UP. I'll be first in line to buy one. They have everything in check, decent price, good quality, great sound, great power too bad the tips ruined the whole deal.

08-24-2010, 05:23 PM	#15 (permalink)
HATED1 Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: WA Posts: 504 Drives: 2010-370z-Red-6 SPD Rep Power: 18	thank you for the great video!

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