Stillen vs. Smoky: your take on intakes

theDreamer · 03-26-2010, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Endgame

SWEET!! I am impressed as I thought Stillen would come out on top.

Question: Would the exhaust mods you had installed affect the outcome of these intakes power wise?

Question 2: I would assume that with the hood closed it truly simulated conditions under the hood in the real world heat wise. True? Or would it be worse (not talking bumper to bumper traffic)....

~Any change other than the intake could change the results, but no way to truly know. It is technically an equal comparison since both ran with the same performance mods.

~The only "true" test on a dyno is hood closed, bumper on. Some will say for SRI setups a hood open run will represent a "more realistic" result, but with the hood open you are pumping in more air with that hood open where it would never get that air in the real world.

Baker · 03-26-2010, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

~Any change other than the intake could change the results, but no way to truly know. It is technically an equal comparison since both ran with the same performance mods.

~The only "true" test on a dyno is hood closed, bumper on. Some will say for SRI setups a hood open run will represent a "more realistic" result, but with the hood open you are pumping in more air with that hood open where it would never get that air in the real world.

The tests that were posted were done with the hood down and bumper on, so they were as "Real World" as we could get. As far as the validity goes, we had the Stillen Intake installed, and it was driven roughly 30 miles and WOT multiple times before the Dyno. It was then switched to the TS, and the same was done. Its a fine line between letting the ECU adjust and not taking too much time in between tests. In the end, no test is perfect, but this is as close as anyone can get.

As far as the mod's are concerned, (and yes we are aware that some of these do not add power, but still should be disclosed) so far they are:

Either TS or Stillen Intake
Stillen HFC
Stillen Headers
Top Secret Exhaust
AP Racing Big Brake Kit
B&M Short Shifter
ACT Clutch Assembly
NST Pulley Kit
I-Forged 20" Spring Rims
and a few others that don't affect a dyno run.

In the end, we are all still surprised at the results. We welcome any other questions that you guys might have. Bottom line, for the current set up that we have, the TS intake reaps greater benefits than the Stillen. Both excellent products either way. Maybe we will redo these tests with more mod's on next week and a few forum members can come watch??? Up to you guys!

Forrest · 03-27-2010, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Baker-Jackson Nissan

The tests that were posted were done with the hood down and bumper on, so they were as "Real World" as we could get. As far as the validity goes, we had the Stillen Intake installed, and it was driven roughly 30 miles and WOT multiple times before the Dyno. It was then switched to the TS, and the same was done. Its a fine line between letting the ECU adjust and not taking too much time in between tests. In the end, no test is perfect, but this is as close as anyone can get.

As far as the mod's are concerned, (and yes we are aware that some of these do not add power, but still should be disclosed) so far they are:

Either TS or Stillen Intake
Stillen HFC
Stillen Headers
Top Secret Exhaust
AP Racing Big Brake Kit
B&M Short Shifter
ACT Clutch Assembly
NST Pulley Kit
I-Forged 20" Spring Rims
and a few others that don't affect a dyno run.

In the end, we are all still surprised at the results. We welcome any other questions that you guys might have. Bottom line, for the current set up that we have, the TS intake reaps greater benefits than the Stillen. Both excellent products either way. Maybe we will redo these tests with more mod's on next week and a few forum members can come watch??? Up to you guys!

So did you run 30 miles with the Top Secret intake or did you just swap it out after you dynoed stillens?

Baker · 03-27-2010, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Forrest

So did you run 30 miles with the Top Secret intake or did you just swap it out after you dynoed stillens?

We did two dynos on the Top Secret -- an extra one to confirm our initial findings.

Drove about an hour (mix of freeway and stop-and-go) on the Top Secret before the final dyno. It confirmed the first pull, in which we simply installed it immediately after the Stillen dyno.

View Poll Results: Which intake do you think will come out on top?
Stillen G3	73	47.40%
Top Secret	48	31.17%
They will be essentially equal in HP gain.	33	21.43%
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