Just received the new Ark Type 2 Grip True Dual exhaust

Zeto · 02-18-2010, 11:53 PM

Well after over 2 months and $1800 later I finally have my exhaust. I believe I'm the first one to have it installed unless someone can correct me. As soon as I get home I'll post up my initial impressions, stay tuned!

nogoodname · 02-19-2010, 12:20 AM

Very curious! Post some videos if you get a chance.

Zeto · 02-19-2010, 01:27 AM

Well let me start off by saying this was one hell of a buying experience and let's leave it at that

For Eric at Driveline who always kept me up to date on what was going on. BTW the only other mod I had on the car was berk test pipes which are garbage IMO but more on that later on.

Install:
We were at my friends shop in which he has a lift so it made things a lot easier. We started at 10pm and finished at 11pm from the time we loosened the first bolt on the stock exhaust until the last bolt on the Ark exhaust was tightened. The install was pretty straight forward and the build quality was very good IMO. I have to readjust some of the bolts since the driver side tip was sticking out more than the other but I believe that was due to our fault installing at such a fast pace. There were no clearance issues with the center brace like the Stillen exhaust. The exhaust comes in 4 pieces with all new hardware and gaskets.

Looks:
I've never been a fan of the burnt tips but I must say they look good. The exhaust does hang a little lower than the stock one but not by much. It looks great looking at it from the rear.

Sound:
Well since sound is relative I'll give you my opinion.
Good
It is loud and deep! Like V8 deep. The gurgle on deceleration is awesome. WOT sounds like a it just wants to eat you alive. I scared a couple of people just cruising by and downshifting with SRM lol!

Bad
It does have a slight drone on at certain throttle positions. I would like to say from 25% to 45% throttle is a drone spot. Right now I'm loving the exhaust but I am a little leery if I'm going to feel the same way in a couple of months because of the loudness.

Ugly
Well for those of you that already know the Berk test pipes have a rasp because they are non-resonated (thanks for the explanation DannyGT). Well with the exhaust the raspiness is amplified greatly and sounds almost like a squeal on decel. I'm going to promptly order a set of RESONATED GTM test pipes. Anyone who is replacing their cat please do yourself a favor and get HFC or resonated test pipes.

Price
Well the cost of the exhaust is $1130 but I spent over $600 to overnight it due to time constraints because of Ark's delay and poor planning.

Weight
I didn't weigh the exhaust but once I get the GTM test pipes in, I'll unbolt the exhaust and weigh it. Just to give you an idea however the Y pipe is heavier due to it being a true dual exhaust.

Power
Well I wasn't born with a butt dyno like some of you on here but the car does feel a lot smoother and more responsive. Once I get back from my business trip, I'll hit a dyno.

Hope this helps some of you that are looking into buying an exhaust in the near future. If you have any further questions please ask away. I'll try to upload some pics tonight and some video when i get back. Thanks!

Zeto · 02-19-2010, 01:39 AM

spearfish25 · 02-19-2010, 06:24 AM

Glad you got your exhaust. Looks like the right tip needs to move further to the right.

Just for anyone thinking HFCs will be rasp-free...they're not. They make the decel hiss much more noticeable as well. I don't know if resonation will solve it either. We just live with the hiss in exchange for the gains and great other sounds. That's what I've come to realize.

How about some videos!!!!

m4a1mustang · 02-19-2010, 06:27 AM

$600 to overnight! Holy crap!

fatcat777 · 02-19-2010, 08:14 AM

looks good, but i agree it looks like both tips are positioned towards the center of the bumper cutout.

Zsteve · 02-19-2010, 10:18 AM

so even with the extra parallel piping it still has drone? I thougt that was suppose to be eliminated with those extra piping. But it does look good, need to post a sound clip for us.

phelan · 02-19-2010, 10:22 AM

man you must've been desperate for the exhaust to pay basically 1.5x the exhaust for overnighting fees. not quite clear on how ARK played into that in terms of your schedule/time constraint and their schedule delivery date. the way you write it, it's almost as if ARK should've been willing to help you with the shipping because of their delays...but maybe i read too much into it.

like spearfish said, hope those tips got adjusted lol

and get used to the decel hiss...when i had my FI exhaust i got used to it pretty quick haha

now then, VIDS please!!!!

tbonesteak · 02-19-2010, 10:37 AM

damn...drone even with those extra canisters? 25-45% throttle is where i'm at 90% of the time too.

Zeto · 02-19-2010, 11:44 AM

Well as for shipping I will tell you exactly what would happened.

First promised dat was Dec 28
2nd Jan 15
3rd Jan 28
4th Feb 5
5th Feb 10
6th Feb 15
Finally shipped On Feb 17
Part of the reason I went for this exhaust is because i thought the wait time wouldn't be as long as the F.I. exhaust. I was very mistaken. I have a very hectic schedule and i was planning to have the exhaust installed before I left on my trip. If i didn't overnight it the exhaust would just be returned to sender because FedEx stated that they would not hold the package until I got back. Needless to say I had no choice. The vendor, Eric at Driveline, was great but dealing with however Ark themselves I will never do again. They gave unrealistic ship dates and that is what upset me the most.

As for the fitment we need to adjust it a bit because we rushed the install since we were on a time hack. I will definitely take vids and more data once I get back. The drone itself isn't that bad in my opinion. I will have our local members chime in and give their thoughts. Thanks for the comments guys, keep them coming.

370Zsteve · 02-19-2010, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeto

Well as for shipping I will tell you exactly what would happened.

First promised dat was Dec 28
2nd Jan 15
3rd Jan 28
4th Feb 5
5th Feb 10
6th Feb 15
Finally shipped On Feb 17
Part of the reason I went for this exhaust is because i thought the wait time wouldn't be as long as the F.I. exhaust. I was very mistaken. I have a very hectic schedule and i was planning to have the exhaust installed before I left on my trip. If i didn't overnight it the exhaust would just be returned to sender because FedEx stated that they would not hold the package until I got back. Needless to say I had no choice. The vendor, Eric at Driveline, was great but dealing with however Ark themselves I will never do again. They gave unrealistic ship dates and that is what upset me the most.

As for the fitment we need to adjust it a bit because we rushed the install since we were on a time hack. I will definitely take vids and more data once I get back. The drone itself isn't that bad in my opinion. I will have our local members chime in and give their thoughts. Thanks for the comments guys, keep them coming.

No friends to accept a Fedex delivery? damn! $600 is 2/3 the cost of the Berk exhaust..........

In for updates on the vids!!!

CrownR426 · 02-19-2010, 11:59 AM

F**KKKK!
I fell asleep waiting for you to text me!
DAMN IT!
I wanted to be there to witness the greatness!
:<
Glad you like it!

TonyBPD · 02-19-2010, 02:14 PM

Damn. I didnt even get a tracking number yet. Ive waited this long. As long as it gets here by April I'm good. {rolling eyes!}

TeamARK · 02-19-2010, 03:23 PM

First off, We would like to apologize for the shipping dates. To coordinate the g37. 370z, and Genesis system from Korea wasn't easy and we still didnt get all the shipments yet. However, we will do a better job to keep the community updated with dates and such.

We did some research on the Hissing noise. We are testing out some solutions to this. For one, let me just say that the exhaust by itself does not make this noise. If you ever put your oem cat back on you will be able to hear its true tone.

we believe that the sound is generated from the flanges that meet at the HFC and headers. The sizes of these two pipes are different and by looking at some HFC's they do not taper down, but instead create a step between the two piping sizes.

Note: TONYBPD, tracking # will be in mailbox by this afternoon.

02-18-2010, 11:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
Zeto Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: North NJ Age: 40 Posts: 766 Drives: 09 Pearl White 370Z Rep Power: 267	Just received the new Ark Type 2 Grip True Dual exhaust Well after over 2 months and $1800 later I finally have my exhaust. I believe I'm the first one to have it installed unless someone can correct me. As soon as I get home I'll post up my initial impressions, stay tuned!

02-19-2010, 01:27 AM	#3 (permalink)
Zeto Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: North NJ Age: 40 Posts: 766 Drives: 09 Pearl White 370Z Rep Power: 267	Well let me start off by saying this was one hell of a buying experience and let's leave it at that For Eric at Driveline who always kept me up to date on what was going on. BTW the only other mod I had on the car was berk test pipes which are garbage IMO but more on that later on. Install: We were at my friends shop in which he has a lift so it made things a lot easier. We started at 10pm and finished at 11pm from the time we loosened the first bolt on the stock exhaust until the last bolt on the Ark exhaust was tightened. The install was pretty straight forward and the build quality was very good IMO. I have to readjust some of the bolts since the driver side tip was sticking out more than the other but I believe that was due to our fault installing at such a fast pace. There were no clearance issues with the center brace like the Stillen exhaust. The exhaust comes in 4 pieces with all new hardware and gaskets. Looks: I've never been a fan of the burnt tips but I must say they look good. The exhaust does hang a little lower than the stock one but not by much. It looks great looking at it from the rear. Sound: Well since sound is relative I'll give you my opinion. Good It is loud and deep! Like V8 deep. The gurgle on deceleration is awesome. WOT sounds like a it just wants to eat you alive. I scared a couple of people just cruising by and downshifting with SRM lol! Bad It does have a slight drone on at certain throttle positions. I would like to say from 25% to 45% throttle is a drone spot. Right now I'm loving the exhaust but I am a little leery if I'm going to feel the same way in a couple of months because of the loudness. Ugly Well for those of you that already know the Berk test pipes have a rasp because they are non-resonated (thanks for the explanation DannyGT). Well with the exhaust the raspiness is amplified greatly and sounds almost like a squeal on decel. I'm going to promptly order a set of RESONATED GTM test pipes. Anyone who is replacing their cat please do yourself a favor and get HFC or resonated test pipes. Price Well the cost of the exhaust is $1130 but I spent over $600 to overnight it due to time constraints because of Ark's delay and poor planning. Weight I didn't weigh the exhaust but once I get the GTM test pipes in, I'll unbolt the exhaust and weigh it. Just to give you an idea however the Y pipe is heavier due to it being a true dual exhaust. Power Well I wasn't born with a butt dyno like some of you on here but the car does feel a lot smoother and more responsive. Once I get back from my business trip, I'll hit a dyno. Hope this helps some of you that are looking into buying an exhaust in the near future. If you have any further questions please ask away. I'll try to upload some pics tonight and some video when i get back. Thanks! Last edited by Zeto; 02-19-2010 at 01:41 AM.

02-19-2010, 06:24 AM	#5 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	Glad you got your exhaust. Looks like the right tip needs to move further to the right. Just for anyone thinking HFCs will be rasp-free...they're not. They make the decel hiss much more noticeable as well. I don't know if resonation will solve it either. We just live with the hiss in exchange for the gains and great other sounds. That's what I've come to realize. How about some videos!!!! __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

02-19-2010, 06:27 AM	#6 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	$600 to overnight! Holy crap! __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

02-19-2010, 10:18 AM	#8 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 21	so even with the extra parallel piping it still has drone? I thougt that was suppose to be eliminated with those extra piping. But it does look good, need to post a sound clip for us. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

02-19-2010, 12:20 AM	#2 (permalink)
nogoodname Lifetime Premium Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 22,357 Drives: E46 M3 Rep Power: 1764	Very curious! Post some videos if you get a chance.

02-19-2010, 01:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
Zeto Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: North NJ Age: 40 Posts: 766 Drives: 09 Pearl White 370Z Rep Power: 267

02-19-2010, 08:14 AM	#7 (permalink)
fatcat777 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 220 Drives: BlackPersimmonSport Rep Power: 15	looks good, but i agree it looks like both tips are positioned towards the center of the bumper cutout.

02-19-2010, 10:22 AM	#9 (permalink)
phelan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Age: 38 Posts: 9,513 Drives: Scoobaroo Rep Power: 3405	man you must've been desperate for the exhaust to pay basically 1.5x the exhaust for overnighting fees. not quite clear on how ARK played into that in terms of your schedule/time constraint and their schedule delivery date. the way you write it, it's almost as if ARK should've been willing to help you with the shipping because of their delays...but maybe i read too much into it. like spearfish said, hope those tips got adjusted lol and get used to the decel hiss...when i had my FI exhaust i got used to it pretty quick haha now then, VIDS please!!!! __________________ 凛 ('Rin') - 2009 Nissan 370Z With silence comes peace. With peace comes freedom. With freedom comes silence.

02-19-2010, 10:37 AM	#10 (permalink)
tbonesteak Track Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 914 Drives: MY09 MB 6MT Rep Power: 375	damn...drone even with those extra canisters? 25-45% throttle is where i'm at 90% of the time too.

02-19-2010, 11:44 AM	#11 (permalink)
Zeto Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: North NJ Age: 40 Posts: 766 Drives: 09 Pearl White 370Z Rep Power: 267	Well as for shipping I will tell you exactly what would happened. First promised dat was Dec 28 2nd Jan 15 3rd Jan 28 4th Feb 5 5th Feb 10 6th Feb 15 Finally shipped On Feb 17 Part of the reason I went for this exhaust is because i thought the wait time wouldn't be as long as the F.I. exhaust. I was very mistaken. I have a very hectic schedule and i was planning to have the exhaust installed before I left on my trip. If i didn't overnight it the exhaust would just be returned to sender because FedEx stated that they would not hold the package until I got back. Needless to say I had no choice. The vendor, Eric at Driveline, was great but dealing with however Ark themselves I will never do again. They gave unrealistic ship dates and that is what upset me the most. As for the fitment we need to adjust it a bit because we rushed the install since we were on a time hack. I will definitely take vids and more data once I get back. The drone itself isn't that bad in my opinion. I will have our local members chime in and give their thoughts. Thanks for the comments guys, keep them coming. Last edited by Zeto; 02-19-2010 at 11:47 AM.

02-19-2010, 11:59 AM	#13 (permalink)
CrownR426 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Korea Posts: 4,676 Drives: Manual Rep Power: 847	F**KKKK! I fell asleep waiting for you to text me! DAMN IT! I wanted to be there to witness the greatness! :< Glad you like it! __________________ Love + Hardwork + Passion RIP SVTRacer

02-19-2010, 02:14 PM	#14 (permalink)
TonyBPD Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: South Jersey Posts: 614 Drives: 2012 VW Golf R Rep Power: 16	Damn. I didnt even get a tracking number yet. Ive waited this long. As long as it gets here by April I'm good. {rolling eyes!}

02-19-2010, 03:23 PM	#15 (permalink)
TeamARK Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: CHINO Posts: 957 Drives: Black 350z/370z Rep Power: 16	First off, We would like to apologize for the shipping dates. To coordinate the g37. 370z, and Genesis system from Korea wasn't easy and we still didnt get all the shipments yet. However, we will do a better job to keep the community updated with dates and such. We did some research on the Hissing noise. We are testing out some solutions to this. For one, let me just say that the exhaust by itself does not make this noise. If you ever put your oem cat back on you will be able to hear its true tone. we believe that the sound is generated from the flanges that meet at the HFC and headers. The sizes of these two pipes are different and by looking at some HFC's they do not taper down, but instead create a step between the two piping sizes. Note: TONYBPD, tracking # will be in mailbox by this afternoon. Last edited by TeamARK; 02-19-2010 at 03:33 PM.

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