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Just make sure to get an exhaust system with Helmholtz chambers (HKS, Ark Grip, etc.) and you should be fine as far as drone is concerned. I just got an

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Old 09-11-2020, 12:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Just make sure to get an exhaust system with Helmholtz chambers (HKS, Ark Grip, etc.) and you should be fine as far as drone is concerned. I just got an Ark DT-S for my Nismo because the Grip would not fit per Ark customer service. I am happy with it but there is drone at about 4500-5000 rpm. Luckily, that means the exhaust is fine at lower rpms and highway cruising speeds. But, I am sort of regretting having purchased the DT-S which does not have Helmholtz chambers (closed canisters on side of mufflers to cancel out drone frequencies).

PS: Just be aware that aftermarket exhausts are usually louder than stock and that inevitably means some drone somewhere in the rev range.
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Just make sure to get an exhaust system with Helmholtz chambers (HKS, Ark Grip, etc.) and you should be fine as far as drone is concerned. I just got an Ark DT-S for my Nismo because the Grip would not fit per Ark customer service. I am happy with it but there is drone at about 4500-5000 rpm. Luckily, that means the exhaust is fine at lower rpms and highway cruising speeds. But, I am sort of regretting having purchased the DT-S which does not have Helmholtz chambers (closed canisters on side of mufflers to cancel out drone frequencies).

PS: Just be aware that aftermarket exhausts are usually louder than stock and that inevitably means some drone somewhere in the rev range.

Thank you for this! The helmholtz seems to be the answer. I had looked into making ones for my FI exhaust, but it was not very feasible. I made an order for an HKS set up with the helmholtz. I'll update this weekend once it's installed.
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+1 on the HKS Hi Power. I run mine with Art pipes and 100 cell mil spec cats. Zero drone and a great sounding exhaust. I loved my FI also but the drone was really bad.
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PS: Just be aware that aftermarket exhausts are usually louder than stock and that inevitably means some drone somewhere in the rev range.
I would disagree, drone is a single resonant frequency that is dominant.
Volume is not drone. You can have an exhaust that is musical and loud everywhere, that is not drone. I had a really **** aftermarket exhaust on my R34 GT-T that had a god-awful drone at 125Hz or so, it was worst at about 2800RPM and above 3000RPM it rapidly got quieter. Above 4000RPM it sounded only slightly louder than a standard exhaust. But I couldn't tolerate going through that boomy zone. It almost rattled my teeth. I eventually found a Fujitsubo exhaust which was better but didn't get rid of the drone note entirely.

Drone happens because the vast majority of aftermarket exhaust manufacturers just bolt whatever on and call it a day. They don't actually understand the SCIENCE of exhaust noise management. Manufacturers do, that's why they have crazy complicated mufflers that suppress all the problem frequencies. Yes they usually go overboard in delivering an inoffensive note and make things too restrictive but they have different priorities.

The HKS team know their ****. The Helmholtz resonators are PERFECTLY designed. There is an exhaust note, but the note's pitch follows the revs (unlike drone which is a single note that just gets louder and quieter depending on revs) and the HKS is not in any way offensive. It is a very docile exhaust at light throttles but once you open the throttle a bit it comes to life. I'm an electronics engineer by trade but I can appreciate something in a different field that has had some proper effort put into it by talented people rather than just slapped together and pushed out the door with a dyno sheet to show it gains power.
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☆ exactly above. I stated the same conclusion in greddy gt exhaust thread.
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I would disagree, drone is a single resonant frequency that is dominant.
Volume is not drone. You can have an exhaust that is musical and loud everywhere, that is not drone.

The HKS team know their ****. The Helmholtz resonators are PERFECTLY designed. There is an exhaust note, but the note's pitch follows the revs (unlike drone which is a single note that just gets louder and quieter depending on revs) and the HKS is not in any way offensive. It is a very docile exhaust at light throttles but once you open the throttle a bit it comes to life. I'm an electronics engineer by trade but I can appreciate something in a different field that has had some proper effort put into it by talented people rather than just slapped together and pushed out the door with a dyno sheet to show it gains power.

Thanks for the definition of "Drone". I have an R-Tune. There is sound at cruise and music through out the RPM range.
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