ERZ Performance High Flow Cats

spearfish25 · 01-04-2010, 07:31 AM

Has anyone bought/installed the ERZ Performance high flow cats yet? Their prices are incredible and quality looks good from the photos. The Subaru crowd uses them and say that ERZ is a very good, affordable option. Anyone have first hand experience? I'm reluctant to be the guinea pig.

bluestyle55 · 01-04-2010, 08:12 PM

I was into modding my previous car (STi) and never heard of this company. Not to say I have heard of every company though.

The price and quality does look good. I second that question...anyone using these?

spearfish25 · 01-04-2010, 09:42 PM

Was about to pull the trigger and then went back into holding mode when I read they don't have any warranty or return policy. Everything is sold 'as is'. Perhaps a moot point in the grand scheme of things, but that detracts from buyer confidence.

bluestyle55 · 01-05-2010, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

Was about to pull the trigger and then went back into holding mode when I read they don't have any warranty or return policy. Everything is sold 'as is'. Perhaps a moot point in the grand scheme of things, but that detracts from buyer confidence.

I totally agree. IMO I would be wary of ANY product that doesn’t come with at least a 30 / 60 / or 90 day minimal warrantee. Think about it… when the company was figuring out there warrantee terms someone had to make the judgment that providing this product with even a minimal warrantee presented too much risk. Even that the discounted price, I don’t think I would be willing to take that risk.

While we are on the topic of warrantees, does anyone know if the Berk HFC comes with any warrantee?

spearfish25 · 01-05-2010, 12:05 PM

Interesting...I just looked on the Berk website and all of there parts are sold "as is" as well. Looks like Stillen is the only company I know of that has warranties. That being said, they may not honor your warranty if corrosion is the claim.

Looking at the HFCs, I can't image what you'd want warranty work or an exchange for. If it's throwing CELs, they'll say you just had bad luck anyway and are in the 5% that have the issue.

SilverBullet · 01-05-2010, 12:08 PM

Kinetix HFCs have a lifetime warranty against defect and a 1 year warranty on movable parts.

KEVTEX · 01-05-2010, 02:56 PM

I bought the ERZ hfc's after looking at the pictures and seeing the price. All the companies that make hfc's buy the cat part and fab the rest themselves. The flanges on the ERZ hfc's are thick which helps them stay flat and seal well. The supplied gaskets have some crushability to them that further assures a leak free connection. The O2 extensions that came with mine needed to be drilled out a little to fit the end of the O2 sensor(it could easily have been done with a round file). The install went smoothly and took me about 2 hours( I'm old and slow). The sound seems the same as stock at idle and low throttle. It is only a little louder at WOT, less noise increase than I expected. So far there is absolutely no drone and not a hint of rasp or hiss. The rest of my exhaust system is stock(so far). The smell was noticeable on the first day, but is gone now. Totally happy with the ERZ hfc's so far and thinking about Berk cbe.

bluestyle55 · 01-05-2010, 10:55 PM

cool man...thx for the review!

ERZperformance · 01-06-2010, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by bluestyle55

cool man...thx for the review!

we already fix this problem on the 02 sensor part so no one will need to do any drilling anymore.

AK370Z · 01-06-2010, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by KEVTEX

I bought the ERZ hfc's after looking at the pictures and seeing the price. All the companies that make hfc's buy the cat part and fab the rest themselves. The flanges on the ERZ hfc's are thick which helps them stay flat and seal well. The supplied gaskets have some crushability to them that further assures a leak free connection. The O2 extensions that came with mine needed to be drilled out a little to fit the end of the O2 sensor(it could easily have been done with a round file). The install went smoothly and took me about 2 hours( I'm old and slow). The sound seems the same as stock at idle and low throttle. It is only a little louder at WOT, less noise increase than I expected. So far there is absolutely no drone and not a hint of rasp or hiss. The rest of my exhaust system is stock(so far). The smell was noticeable on the first day, but is gone now. Totally happy with the ERZ hfc's so far and thinking about Berk cbe.

Great review +1. You have some rep points!

spearfish25 · 01-06-2010, 03:05 PM

Thanks for the review. As soon as I hear back from ERZ on pricing, I may have a set on the way. I'll post videos before and after to compare the sound.

KEVTEX · 01-06-2010, 06:18 PM

A before and after comparison of sound levels from ERZ hfc's on a 370Z measured at 10 feet behind the car and 2 feet above ground level using a Radio Shack meter.
On the A weighted scale at idle: stock=54db, ERZ hfc's=57db
On the C weighted scale at idle: stock=72db, ERZ hfc's=77db
The next measurement was done by momentarily going to wide open throttle.
On the A weighted scale at WOT: stock=84db, ERZ hfc's=87db
On the C weighted scale at WOT: stock=93db, ERZ hfc's=94db
The bottom line is, that it is not much louder with just hfc's and everything else stock.

spearfish25 · 01-06-2010, 07:37 PM

Nice...I've been waiting for people to start using sound level meters with various setups. I'll do the same with my Stillen catback before and after the HFC install.

JB1 · 01-06-2010, 09:01 PM

Hmm, I wonder what the readings would have been with Berk HFC's. I feel that adding the Berk HFC's made my exhaust quite a bit louder then stock and not just "a little louder" as KEVTEX described.

TipsZ · 01-06-2010, 09:59 PM

Any dyno results yet?

01-04-2010, 07:31 AM	#1 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1857	ERZ Performance High Flow Cats Has anyone bought/installed the ERZ Performance high flow cats yet? Their prices are incredible and quality looks good from the photos. The Subaru crowd uses them and say that ERZ is a very good, affordable option. Anyone have first hand experience? I'm reluctant to be the guinea pig. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

01-04-2010, 08:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
bluestyle55 Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Pa Posts: 194 Drives: 09 Nissan 370z B 6M Rep Power: 17	I was into modding my previous car (STi) and never heard of this company. Not to say I have heard of every company though. The price and quality does look good. I second that question...anyone using these? __________________ 2009 370z 6MT Touring w/ Sport Pkg \| Invidia Gemini CBE\| Stillen G3 CAI \| ERZ HFC's \|X-Pel Clear Bra \| 20% Tint

01-04-2010, 09:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1857	Was about to pull the trigger and then went back into holding mode when I read they don't have any warranty or return policy. Everything is sold 'as is'. Perhaps a moot point in the grand scheme of things, but that detracts from buyer confidence. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

01-05-2010, 12:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1857	Interesting...I just looked on the Berk website and all of there parts are sold "as is" as well. Looks like Stillen is the only company I know of that has warranties. That being said, they may not honor your warranty if corrosion is the claim. Looking at the HFCs, I can't image what you'd want warranty work or an exchange for. If it's throwing CELs, they'll say you just had bad luck anyway and are in the 5% that have the issue. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

01-05-2010, 10:55 PM	#8 (permalink)
bluestyle55 Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Pa Posts: 194 Drives: 09 Nissan 370z B 6M Rep Power: 17	cool man...thx for the review! __________________ 2009 370z 6MT Touring w/ Sport Pkg \| Invidia Gemini CBE\| Stillen G3 CAI \| ERZ HFC's \|X-Pel Clear Bra \| 20% Tint

01-05-2010, 12:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
SilverBullet Track Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: California Posts: 873 Drives: 2008 G37 Rep Power: 17	Kinetix HFCs have a lifetime warranty against defect and a 1 year warranty on movable parts.

01-05-2010, 02:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
KEVTEX Base Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Montgomery, TX Posts: 119 Drives: 2010 370Z 7at sp pg Rep Power: 16	I bought the ERZ hfc's after looking at the pictures and seeing the price. All the companies that make hfc's buy the cat part and fab the rest themselves. The flanges on the ERZ hfc's are thick which helps them stay flat and seal well. The supplied gaskets have some crushability to them that further assures a leak free connection. The O2 extensions that came with mine needed to be drilled out a little to fit the end of the O2 sensor(it could easily have been done with a round file). The install went smoothly and took me about 2 hours( I'm old and slow). The sound seems the same as stock at idle and low throttle. It is only a little louder at WOT, less noise increase than I expected. So far there is absolutely no drone and not a hint of rasp or hiss. The rest of my exhaust system is stock(so far). The smell was noticeable on the first day, but is gone now. Totally happy with the ERZ hfc's so far and thinking about Berk cbe.

01-06-2010, 03:05 PM	#11 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1857	Thanks for the review. As soon as I hear back from ERZ on pricing, I may have a set on the way. I'll post videos before and after to compare the sound. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

01-06-2010, 06:18 PM	#12 (permalink)
KEVTEX Base Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Montgomery, TX Posts: 119 Drives: 2010 370Z 7at sp pg Rep Power: 16	A before and after comparison of sound levels from ERZ hfc's on a 370Z measured at 10 feet behind the car and 2 feet above ground level using a Radio Shack meter. On the A weighted scale at idle: stock=54db, ERZ hfc's=57db On the C weighted scale at idle: stock=72db, ERZ hfc's=77db The next measurement was done by momentarily going to wide open throttle. On the A weighted scale at WOT: stock=84db, ERZ hfc's=87db On the C weighted scale at WOT: stock=93db, ERZ hfc's=94db The bottom line is, that it is not much louder with just hfc's and everything else stock.

01-06-2010, 07:37 PM	#13 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1857	Nice...I've been waiting for people to start using sound level meters with various setups. I'll do the same with my Stillen catback before and after the HFC install. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

01-06-2010, 09:01 PM	#14 (permalink)
JB1 Track Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 748 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z sold Rep Power: 18	Hmm, I wonder what the readings would have been with Berk HFC's. I feel that adding the Berk HFC's made my exhaust quite a bit louder then stock and not just "a little louder" as KEVTEX described. __________________ Black Fangs // Black rear Valance // Berk CBE // COBB post MAF tubes // K&N drop in filters // Setrab Oil Cooler // Stillen Sway bars // Z1 SS brake lines // Stillen brake cooling kit // Harness bar //

01-06-2010, 09:59 PM	#15 (permalink)
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