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spearfish25 01-04-2010 07:31 AM

ERZ Performance High Flow Cats
 
Has anyone bought/installed the ERZ Performance high flow cats yet? Their prices are incredible and quality looks good from the photos. The Subaru crowd uses them and say that ERZ is a very good, affordable option. Anyone have first hand experience? I'm reluctant to be the guinea pig.

bluestyle55 01-04-2010 08:12 PM

I was into modding my previous car (STi) and never heard of this company. Not to say I have heard of every company though.

The price and quality does look good. I second that question...anyone using these?

spearfish25 01-04-2010 09:42 PM

Was about to pull the trigger and then went back into holding mode when I read they don't have any warranty or return policy. Everything is sold 'as is'. Perhaps a moot point in the grand scheme of things, but that detracts from buyer confidence.

bluestyle55 01-05-2010 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 354360)
Was about to pull the trigger and then went back into holding mode when I read they don't have any warranty or return policy. Everything is sold 'as is'. Perhaps a moot point in the grand scheme of things, but that detracts from buyer confidence.

I totally agree. IMO I would be wary of ANY product that doesn’t come with at least a 30 / 60 / or 90 day minimal warrantee. Think about it… when the company was figuring out there warrantee terms someone had to make the judgment that providing this product with even a minimal warrantee presented too much risk. Even that the discounted price, I don’t think I would be willing to take that risk.

While we are on the topic of warrantees, does anyone know if the Berk HFC comes with any warrantee?

spearfish25 01-05-2010 12:05 PM

Interesting...I just looked on the Berk website and all of there parts are sold "as is" as well. Looks like Stillen is the only company I know of that has warranties. That being said, they may not honor your warranty if corrosion is the claim.

Looking at the HFCs, I can't image what you'd want warranty work or an exchange for. If it's throwing CELs, they'll say you just had bad luck anyway and are in the 5% that have the issue.

SilverBullet 01-05-2010 12:08 PM

Kinetix HFCs have a lifetime warranty against defect and a 1 year warranty on movable parts.

KEVTEX 01-05-2010 02:56 PM

I bought the ERZ hfc's after looking at the pictures and seeing the price. All the companies that make hfc's buy the cat part and fab the rest themselves. The flanges on the ERZ hfc's are thick which helps them stay flat and seal well. The supplied gaskets have some crushability to them that further assures a leak free connection. The O2 extensions that came with mine needed to be drilled out a little to fit the end of the O2 sensor(it could easily have been done with a round file). The install went smoothly and took me about 2 hours( I'm old and slow). The sound seems the same as stock at idle and low throttle. It is only a little louder at WOT, less noise increase than I expected. So far there is absolutely no drone and not a hint of rasp or hiss. The rest of my exhaust system is stock(so far). The smell was noticeable on the first day, but is gone now. Totally happy with the ERZ hfc's so far and thinking about Berk cbe.

bluestyle55 01-05-2010 10:55 PM

cool man...thx for the review!

ERZperformance 01-06-2010 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by bluestyle55 (Post 355165)
cool man...thx for the review!

we already fix this problem on the 02 sensor part so no one will need to do any drilling anymore.

AK370Z 01-06-2010 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by KEVTEX (Post 354816)
I bought the ERZ hfc's after looking at the pictures and seeing the price. All the companies that make hfc's buy the cat part and fab the rest themselves. The flanges on the ERZ hfc's are thick which helps them stay flat and seal well. The supplied gaskets have some crushability to them that further assures a leak free connection. The O2 extensions that came with mine needed to be drilled out a little to fit the end of the O2 sensor(it could easily have been done with a round file). The install went smoothly and took me about 2 hours( I'm old and slow). The sound seems the same as stock at idle and low throttle. It is only a little louder at WOT, less noise increase than I expected. So far there is absolutely no drone and not a hint of rasp or hiss. The rest of my exhaust system is stock(so far). The smell was noticeable on the first day, but is gone now. Totally happy with the ERZ hfc's so far and thinking about Berk cbe.

Great review +1. You have some rep points! :tup:

spearfish25 01-06-2010 03:05 PM

Thanks for the review. As soon as I hear back from ERZ on pricing, I may have a set on the way. I'll post videos before and after to compare the sound.

KEVTEX 01-06-2010 06:18 PM

A before and after comparison of sound levels from ERZ hfc's on a 370Z measured at 10 feet behind the car and 2 feet above ground level using a Radio Shack meter.
On the A weighted scale at idle: stock=54db, ERZ hfc's=57db
On the C weighted scale at idle: stock=72db, ERZ hfc's=77db
The next measurement was done by momentarily going to wide open throttle.
On the A weighted scale at WOT: stock=84db, ERZ hfc's=87db
On the C weighted scale at WOT: stock=93db, ERZ hfc's=94db
The bottom line is, that it is not much louder with just hfc's and everything else stock.

spearfish25 01-06-2010 07:37 PM

Nice...I've been waiting for people to start using sound level meters with various setups. I'll do the same with my Stillen catback before and after the HFC install.

JB1 01-06-2010 09:01 PM

Hmm, I wonder what the readings would have been with Berk HFC's. I feel that adding the Berk HFC's made my exhaust quite a bit louder then stock and not just "a little louder" as KEVTEX described.

TipsZ 01-06-2010 09:59 PM

Any dyno results yet?


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