GTM Stage 1 Super Charger Install--Kentmo

kentmo280z · 01-20-2015, 07:54 PM

I have decided to eliminate my stock cats. I just installed FI cat back w/ 14" resonators.
That's loud enough for me. I want to run Berk test pipes w/ resonators but am wondering if the resonator test pipes would be too restrictive for my Sc ???

ANMVQ · 01-21-2015, 08:09 AM

Nice man !! What no start up VID, LOL , Yea the sound of the SC is intoxicating for sure, I loved the sound of mine when I had it ( Stillen) BTW not sure how different the GTM kit is but Stillen told us to keep the stock cats on the car ? Cars actually lost WHP with TP's .

Merv · 01-21-2015, 08:12 AM

I don't think it would be. Isn't it a straight through design? There shouldn't be any packing in there. Man you must be itching to get her out on the open road!!! Look forward to some numbers!

theDreamer · 01-21-2015, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ

Nice man !! What no start up VID, LOL , Yea the sound of the SC is intoxicating for sure, I loved the sound of mine when I had it ( Stillen) BTW not sure how different the GTM kit is but Stillen told us to keep the stock cats on the car ? Cars actually lost WHP with TP's .

Honestly you will not lose HP with TP v stock cats, I ran LTH & TP and kept the same power as stock cats, just have to tune it for a more open exhaust.
The issue with HFC & I believe RTP is they will break down and could clog the exhaust where stock cats, LTH, and TP do not have this issue. LTH & TP are just straight pipes & stock cats versus HFC have better heat control that do not break down as quickly.

I remember a few places talking about making better HFC that can withstand the heat of boost, but nothing ever materialized from it that I remember.

kentmo280z · 01-21-2015, 08:11 PM

Just ordered the berk resonated test pipes. Once i get those it's tune & dyno time!!
I'll try to do a dyno video and will post results.
Just finished running the wiring & hose for the boost & AFR meters. Gawd I hate doing that type of install. My body doesn't contort into the positions to that I need to get under the dash.... Plus trying to get through the fire wall etc.. PAIN IN ***.... Found a place to make a hole next to the in cabin air filter to run the wires & vacuum hose.

kentmo280z · 01-22-2015, 08:03 PM

Check that... cancelled the Berks, they're back ordered forever, ordered the Fast Intention resonated pipes instead... over priced , but... want to keep things moving..

ANMVQ · 01-23-2015, 07:50 AM

Did you even look into the Z1 Tp's I have their HFC's and IMO better than FI's I had FIRHFC's also but the Z1's are better just my.02

Zat_Zuma · 01-23-2015, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kentmo280z

Check that... cancelled the Berks, they're back ordered forever, ordered the Fast Intention resonated pipes instead... over priced , but... want to keep things moving..

What you need is non-resonated test pipes and a set of these 100 cell cats

Ask Tony, for some

Zat_Zuma · 01-23-2015, 08:57 AM

Actually I may even have some exhaust pieces, left over, that I ran with my 1.0 kit and I reached 12 lbs of boost

kentmo280z · 01-23-2015, 11:04 AM

I actually sent Z1 a question asking the lead time on their resonated test pipes.
Their answer to me was : "Did you place an order?"
That was all they wrote in reply. What kind of answer is that?

When I was looking into upgrade clutches , I emailed Z1 for final pricing on what I needed, they said they would put a number together and get right back with me. I never heard back ...
They lost about $2k worth of business due to their lack of customer service.

On the other hand, Joe from Z speed, Kevin from Fast Intentions and Todd from Vivid Racing
have been very accommodating and professional. Kudos to them!!!

Liquid_G · 01-30-2015, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ANMVQ

Nice man !! What no start up VID, LOL , Yea the sound of the SC is intoxicating for sure, I loved the sound of mine when I had it ( Stillen) BTW not sure how different the GTM kit is but Stillen told us to keep the stock cats on the car ? Cars actually lost WHP with TP's .

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer

Honestly you will not lose HP with TP v stock cats, I ran LTH & TP and kept the same power as stock cats, just have to tune it for a more open exhaust.
The issue with HFC & I believe RTP is they will break down and could clog the exhaust where stock cats, LTH, and TP do not have this issue. LTH & TP are just straight pipes & stock cats versus HFC have better heat control that do not break down as quickly.

I remember a few places talking about making better HFC that can withstand the heat of boost, but nothing ever materialized from it that I remember.

Over the past couple years I've run 3 different exhaust setups while running the same FI resontated test Pipes. Tanabe, Amuse, MXP. I'm still GTM Stg1.

Tanabe Touring Medallion, Amuse R1 Titan both use Y-pipes. MXP is true dual. I've never done dyno tests to prove my theory but i swear the Y-pipe exhausts felt faster. Felt like the car got into boost quicker and just felt more responsive.. Just my anecdotal 2 cents..

kentmo280z · 03-31-2015, 06:07 PM

Here are today's dyno results

2010 370z
6mt
GTM Stage 1 SC
394 rwhp
338 lbs trq.
8psi boost
93 octane
500 miles on install
20150331_170118_resized.jpg

ANMVQ · 03-31-2015, 09:26 PM

Nice numbers man , must be happy you can drive it finally and thaw only the base tune? You squeeze some more out with a custom tune .great work!

kentmo280z · 04-01-2015, 04:57 AM

Thanks my friend , was hoping for a little more hp. I did not realize that I could not tune with the cable that came with the kit. So , those numbers are with the canned tune by GTM. Everything looks safe as far as the timing and a/f so I may not get a custom tune unless i have an emissions issue. Custom tune plus license = lotta $$$ for only a few more hp.
Unless someone can convince me othewise.

Chuck33079 · 04-01-2015, 07:49 AM

Sams tunes are garbage. You really, really need a custom tune. It'll be safer and you'll make more power. It goes from felling like a NA car with aftermarket FI to feeling like a factory boosted car.

01-21-2015, 08:09 AM	#32 (permalink)
ANMVQ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Framingham MA Posts: 2,732 Drives: 2014 Q50 AWD Rep Power: 19	Nice man !! What no start up VID, LOL , Yea the sound of the SC is intoxicating for sure, I loved the sound of mine when I had it ( Stillen) BTW not sure how different the GTM kit is but Stillen told us to keep the stock cats on the car ? Cars actually lost WHP with TP's . __________________ 14 Q50 AWD, ARK, ECUTEK (SEB), Takda,

01-21-2015, 08:12 AM	#33 (permalink)
Merv Track Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Vancouver B.C Posts: 518 Drives: 11 GM grey sport tou Rep Power: 14	I don't think it would be. Isn't it a straight through design? There shouldn't be any packing in there. Man you must be itching to get her out on the open road!!! Look forward to some numbers! __________________ Swift springs \| upgraded headlights \| stillen gen3 cai \| FI HFC's and FI CBE \| ecutek tune in the mail!

01-23-2015, 07:50 AM	#37 (permalink)
ANMVQ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Framingham MA Posts: 2,732 Drives: 2014 Q50 AWD Rep Power: 19	Did you even look into the Z1 Tp's I have their HFC's and IMO better than FI's I had FIRHFC's also but the Z1's are better just my.02 __________________ 14 Q50 AWD, ARK, ECUTEK (SEB), Takda,

01-23-2015, 08:57 AM	#39 (permalink)
Zat_Zuma A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Edmonton, Alberta ...eh Posts: 1,171 Drives: 2017 Touring auto Rep Power: 18	Actually I may even have some exhaust pieces, left over, that I ran with my 1.0 kit and I reached 12 lbs of boost __________________ [B]2009 & 2017 370Z Touring Sport Autos SOLD

01-23-2015, 11:04 AM	#40 (permalink)
kentmo280z Base Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Akron , Ohio Posts: 199 Drives: '10 370Z Roadster Rep Power: 10	I actually sent Z1 a question asking the lead time on their resonated test pipes. Their answer to me was : "Did you place an order?" That was all they wrote in reply. What kind of answer is that? When I was looking into upgrade clutches , I emailed Z1 for final pricing on what I needed, they said they would put a number together and get right back with me. I never heard back ... They lost about $2k worth of business due to their lack of customer service. On the other hand, Joe from Z speed, Kevin from Fast Intentions and Todd from Vivid Racing have been very accommodating and professional. Kudos to them!!! Nut_N_Much likes this. Last edited by kentmo280z; 01-23-2015 at 11:07 AM.

01-20-2015, 07:54 PM	#31 (permalink)
kentmo280z Base Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Akron , Ohio Posts: 199 Drives: '10 370Z Roadster Rep Power: 10	I have decided to eliminate my stock cats. I just installed FI cat back w/ 14" resonators. That's loud enough for me. I want to run Berk test pipes w/ resonators but am wondering if the resonator test pipes would be too restrictive for my Sc ???

01-21-2015, 08:11 PM	#35 (permalink)
kentmo280z Base Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Akron , Ohio Posts: 199 Drives: '10 370Z Roadster Rep Power: 10	Just ordered the berk resonated test pipes. Once i get those it's tune & dyno time!! I'll try to do a dyno video and will post results. Just finished running the wiring & hose for the boost & AFR meters. Gawd I hate doing that type of install. My body doesn't contort into the positions to that I need to get under the dash.... Plus trying to get through the fire wall etc.. PAIN IN ***.... Found a place to make a hole next to the in cabin air filter to run the wires & vacuum hose.

01-22-2015, 08:03 PM	#36 (permalink)
kentmo280z Base Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Akron , Ohio Posts: 199 Drives: '10 370Z Roadster Rep Power: 10	Check that... cancelled the Berks, they're back ordered forever, ordered the Fast Intention resonated pipes instead... over priced , but... want to keep things moving..

03-31-2015, 06:07 PM	#42 (permalink)
kentmo280z Base Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Akron , Ohio Posts: 199 Drives: '10 370Z Roadster Rep Power: 10	Dyno Results Here are today's dyno results 2010 370z 6mt GTM Stage 1 SC 394 rwhp 338 lbs trq. 8psi boost 93 octane 500 miles on install 20150331_170118_resized.jpg phunk and carlitos_370z like this. Last edited by kentmo280z; 03-31-2015 at 06:16 PM.

03-31-2015, 09:26 PM	#43 (permalink)
ANMVQ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Framingham MA Posts: 2,732 Drives: 2014 Q50 AWD Rep Power: 19	Nice numbers man , must be happy you can drive it finally and thaw only the base tune? You squeeze some more out with a custom tune .great work! __________________ 14 Q50 AWD, ARK, ECUTEK (SEB), Takda,

04-01-2015, 04:57 AM	#44 (permalink)
kentmo280z Base Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Akron , Ohio Posts: 199 Drives: '10 370Z Roadster Rep Power: 10	Thanks my friend , was hoping for a little more hp. I did not realize that I could not tune with the cable that came with the kit. So , those numbers are with the canned tune by GTM. Everything looks safe as far as the timing and a/f so I may not get a custom tune unless i have an emissions issue. Custom tune plus license = lotta $$$ for only a few more hp. Unless someone can convince me othewise. carlitos_370z likes this.

04-01-2015, 07:49 AM	#45 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	Sams tunes are garbage. You really, really need a custom tune. It'll be safer and you'll make more power. It goes from felling like a NA car with aftermarket FI to feeling like a factory boosted car. ANMVQ likes this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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