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YzGyz 11-23-2014 08:16 PM

Electronic Boost Control Thread
 
Can everyone with a EBC write a review on there EBC. It would be nice to have a bunch of reviews on one thread. It will greatly help those in the market for one make a sound decision.

Please include:
-price
-how long it was used for/still using it?
-how accurate does it hold boost
-rate of 1-10 on ease of install
-rate of 1-10 on ease of use
-why you bought it vs something else
-small synopsis on the unit.
-any recommendation to install, things to buy/use with the unit, ect.

Thanks
YzGyz

YzGyz 11-26-2014 09:46 PM

I know someone has a ECB. Don't tell me I'm going to be the first one to have a write up in a few months.

Yzgyz

TerribleONE 11-26-2014 09:52 PM

Turbosmart E-boost 2. Don't rememeber exactly what I paid for it and it took a while for me to figure out how to use it. It does hold boost very accurately and will do boost by gear which was my main reason for purchasing it. Only other option for boost by gear is the HKS IIRC

YzGyz 11-26-2014 10:17 PM

Can you give ratings on ease of install, use, build quality, and those other things in the first post?

Thanks for sharing. I read a lot on the eboost 2. It looks to be the one to get if your serious. I'm leaning toward the Eboost Street myself. More tamed and "friendly to use." I just don't like the way it looker.

GaleForce 11-26-2014 10:37 PM

I have the HKS EVC-s.

Build quality is good.
Easy install.
Set up definitely has a learning curve to it.
Reliable and accurate.

Having said all that, I'm replacing it. I'm not ready to say with what though. It will be revealed as my build 2.0 gets underway.

Also, I've heard many good things about the Turbo Smart E-Boost 2.

BBRSpeedWorks 11-27-2014 01:17 AM

Greddy profec oled
install is easy
setup is very user friendly
Has a nice warning alarm

The down fall I know of is the price

Mitco39 11-27-2014 12:02 PM

EVC 5 and 6

Install is straight forward
Setup is a nightmare
Understanding what each setting does takes a higher than university education
5 looks dated, 6 looks nice
Still trying to figure it out after many hours, but when I do I am sure all the features it has will come in hand.


If your the guy who likes to tweak and figure things out on your own then it is a great EBC. If you like to set it and forget it, then forget this one.

phunk 11-27-2014 12:06 PM

Hks evc 6 is great. There is a software and cable option so that you can use a laptop to set it up if you want to get in it deep. But if you don't want to use the boost tables and want to simply just set the boost, you can ignore all the extra stuff and just turn up the main boost setting.

But using the tables is a hassle without the laptop software. The only thing that would make it cooler would be if you could set it up with your smart phone. Or if it wasn't so expensive. But my evc 5 was still going strong after 10 years so I trust it will last.

Mitco39 11-27-2014 12:11 PM

You have the software and cable? been thinking about getting it as like you said the tables on screen are a nightmare.

YzGyz 11-27-2014 12:12 PM

I want a simple set and forget with a easy switch from dd map to drag map.

Yzgyz

phunk 11-27-2014 07:31 PM

Ya with the software it's super easy takes 30 seconds to set it up. Then you can switch from your 3 tables on the fly with a single button. So it's as easy or complicated as you make it.

taroslush 11-27-2014 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YzGyz (Post 3042058)
I want a simple set and forget with a easy switch from dd map to drag map.

Yzgyz

Blitz SBC has a feature for a Hi setting and Lo setting for boost. you can easily choose between the two. Lo for street or Hi for track use.

YzGyz 11-28-2014 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taroslush (Post 3042285)
Blitz SBC has a feature for a Hi setting and Lo setting for boost. you can easily choose between the two. Lo for street or Hi for track use.

I quickly glanced at them but too much $$ for my blood. Like I said, I'm leaning towards the TurboSmart E-Boost Street. It is in my price range and look like it 2 settings that you can switch back and forth.

Anyhoo, more reviews please.

YzGyz

FireDan50 11-28-2014 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YzGyz (Post 3038241)
Can everyone with a EBC write a review on there EBC. It would be nice to have a bunch of reviews on one thread. It will greatly help those in the market for one make a sound decision.

Please include:
-price
-how long it was used for/still using it?
-how accurate does it hold boost
-rate of 1-10 on ease of install
-rate of 1-10 on ease of use
-why you bought it vs something else
-small synopsis on the unit.
-any recommendation to install, things to buy/use with the unit, ect.

Thanks
YzGyz

-Bought mine used on here, but go for about $475 new.
-Been on my car for a couple months and still using it.
-Holds boost steady; no spikes/tapering off for me. I'm single-turbo using a Turbosmart external wastegate boosting to 10psi daily.
-Install pretty easy...I'd say somewhere on lower half of 1-10 scale. Just a couple components (solenoid/control unit) and OLED display controller to install/mount.
-Pretty easy to use/navigate around after a few minutes of using it..probably lower half of 1-10 scale also.
-Purchased because of great price found used, Greddy name, and research on peoples opinions of it online.
-Not the fanciest/feature-loaded controller out there, but everything is nice and compact. Easy to install and use. Holds boost steady. Good list of features for the price range. Easy to navigate controller. Easy to see fancy OLED display. Super easy to adjust boost while driving with a push of a button and turn of a knob. No regrets here and would buy it again.
-Only thing I'd recommend is maybe a separate boost gauge to cross-check both boost readings.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-t...007_154125.jpg

Ill 11-28-2014 09:31 AM

I have a GFB G - Force 2. I love it. Paid roughly $300 for it. GTM did the install, so I cannot comment on the installation. I haven't played with my bott levels yet, my car was in an accident and is at the shop being rebuilt. Changing the settings seems pretty straight forward though.

I have heard nothing but good reviews from it on various other car platforms and forums.

http://www.gfb.com.au/products/boost...troller-by-gfb

http://i58.tinypic.com/1q4sd1.jpg

GaleForce 11-28-2014 11:58 AM

The only thing I don't like about the GFB unit is, you need to run a vacuum line into the car for it. It's not the end of the world, just something I noticed.

jwick 11-28-2014 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YzGyz (Post 3042058)
I want a simple set and forget with a easy switch from dd map to drag map.

Yzgyz

I have this one. It's the one JTran recommended I get. Has two setting (High Boost and Low Boost). If you want to run on WG pressure you just turn it off. Extremely easy to install and has performed well for me.

greddy profec b spec 2 | eBay

Draw back. They don't make it anymore so you have to buy it used or NIB off eBay. I bought mine off eBay for like $300 NIB.

jaytirbhaw 09-08-2015 09:30 PM

Bumping this, anyone have pics of how/ where they mounted their boost controllers ? Trying to decide what route to go with mine

Rob298mx 09-08-2015 10:06 PM

Innovate SCG-1
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1...oads/image.jpg

jwick 09-08-2015 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaytirbhaw (Post 3304385)
Bumping this, anyone have pics of how/ where they mounted their boost controllers ? Trying to decide what route to go with mine


Don't have a picture handy but I velcroed mine underneath the steering wheel.

TerribleONE 09-08-2015 11:40 PM

Mines mounted in the cubby

YzGyz 09-09-2015 12:53 AM

I like the look of the AC vent gauge but I need my ac and I have my tweeter in them.

YzGyz

FireDan50 09-09-2015 04:12 AM

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9...511_115043.jpg

Had mine above the steering column, but moved it to the cubby on top of the Racelogic control....but when I have time I'm going to move it back to the steering column and move the Racelogic controller to the center console where the switches are near the cup holder.

jaytirbhaw 09-09-2015 08:56 AM

This may be a dumb question but .... If my target boost is 10 pounds on my controller, and my wastegate spring is 10 lbs, should I be using a lighter spring?

jwick 09-09-2015 09:15 AM

Electronic Boost Control Thread
 
That all depends on what your goals are for the build. Keep in mind that the controller is only capable of increasing boost by a factor of two. So in theory with your 10lb spring you could run 20lbs of boost. Going with a lower spring will effect that upper limit. The tolerances in the WG springs are rather larger 1-2lbs if I recall properly. If it were my car I would run a slightly lower spring 7-8lbs if all you want to achieve is 10lbs. This could require resetting the boost controller. Mine is set by a percentage over wastegate so lowering it would require reprogramming the controller.

Its likely that all your controller is doing is keeping steady boost levels and not actually adding any boost above gate. Just remember that if you want to run more boost in the future you will be limited by the gate spring.

Of course you could go by the old saying, 'if it ain't broke...'

If the car is running as you want, leave it alone

jaytirbhaw 09-09-2015 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3304754)
That all depends on what your goals are for the build. Keep in mind that the controller is only capable of increasing boost by a factor of two. So in theory with your 10lb spring you could run 20lbs of boost. Going with a lower spring will effect that upper limit. The tolerances in the WG springs are rather larger 1-2lbs if I recall properly. If it were my car I would run a slightly lower spring 7-8lbs if all you want to achieve is 10lbs. This could require resetting the boost controller. Mine is set by a percentage over wastegate so lowering it would require reprogramming the controller.

Its likely that all your controller is doing is keeping steady boost levels and not actually adding any boost above gate. Just remember that if you want to run more boost in the future you will be limited by the gate spring.

Of course you could go by the old saying, 'if it ain't broke...'

If the car is running as you want, leave it alone


Thanks for the info jwick. Actually trying to setup a low boost setting around 8-10 lbs and a high boost at around 14-16 psi depending on if that gets me to where I want to be. Assuming it will. I don't have the controller installed yet, removed my manual one. running on WG pressure w/ a 7lb and 3lb spring, I'll remove the 3 lb.

jwick 09-09-2015 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaytirbhaw (Post 3304777)
Thanks for the info jwick. Actually trying to setup a low boost setting around 8-10 lbs and a high boost at around 14-16 psi depending on if that gets me to where I want to be. Assuming it will. I don't have the controller installed yet, removed my manual one. running on WG pressure w/ a 7lb and 3lb spring, I'll remove the 3 lb.

If you remove the 3# spring then you will just be running the 7lb (0.5bar). That will limit you to 1bar pressure in the future. That's still a lot of psi but on a built motor with lower compression you might not get where you want to be.

I'm not sure what WG you have but there is likely something between 7 and 10. I have the Tial MV-S and there's a 0.6bar spring which is about 8.7lbs. That would probably be the right spring for you. Run 9-10lbs on low boost and it'll still give you the ability to run 16-17 up top.

jaytirbhaw 09-09-2015 09:58 AM

I have a turbosmart 38 ultragate, here's a chart of the avail springs, don't see one between 7 and 10 :/ , In that case maybe I Should stick to the 10 setup lol

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9luzei87q0...hart.jpg?raw=1

jwick 09-09-2015 12:48 PM

Just one or two WGs?

jaytirbhaw 09-09-2015 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3304941)
Just one or two WGs?

Just one wastegate

jwick 09-09-2015 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaytirbhaw (Post 3304943)
Just one wastegate

You could replace it with one that has more flexibility in the way you are trying to set it up.

jwick 09-09-2015 01:38 PM

Or you could set it up like the Subaru guys. Put the lightest spring you can in the WG. Leave your manual boost controller in to set your low boost limit and then have the EBC set your maximum boost level. Turn EBC off completely for low boost and on for high boost.

roplusbee 09-11-2015 01:27 PM

Pretty much all of what JWICK said.

I have the Profec 2 (red screen, cause blue destroys your night vision) and it was installed in my glove box. The Greddy kit comes with 4.5 lbs WG springs, so my target boost never held at my high setting (which didn't matter much since I rarely got to use it much in TX). Once I get back and get another NISMO to gear up, I will replace the springs with the medium range ones that allow me to hold at 1BAR (if I get the urge to build the motor). I may be looking into getting the new Profec EBC and installing it in the blank button location, but the glove box works well if you don't change it up much and you want a certain degree of stealth.

WG Spring: 4.5lbs
EBC: Greddy Profec 2
Low boost: 0.5-0.6BAR (roughly 8PSI)
High boost: 0.8-0.9BAR (would spike to 12PSI and taper off to about 10.4PSI on gauge)

jaytirbhaw 09-21-2015 12:14 PM

Hey guys I have another sort of dumb question,

Which of these methods would be best ? Also, in the first method where it has the top port of the wastegate "vented to atmosphere" , as well as port 1 on the solenoid, would I just leave this open to atmosphere or should I have hoses on those ports going somewhere .... sorry for my turbo noobness, just want to be sure.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/45q013hgcq...mart.jpg?raw=1

jwick 09-21-2015 01:03 PM

Mine is hooked up like the bottom one except I have two wastegates and I take my pressure source form the intake manifold.

jaytirbhaw 09-21-2015 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3314133)
Mine is hooked up like the bottom one except I have two wastegates and I take my pressure source form the intake manifold.

how did you vent the port to atmosphere? Just left it open?

jwick 09-21-2015 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaytirbhaw (Post 3314151)
how did you vent the port to atmosphere? Just left it open?

I just left it open. I will preface that I have a Profec not a turbosmart.

Rob298mx 09-22-2015 07:39 AM

Who else has the Innovate SCG-1?

tonyHTX 09-22-2015 10:17 AM

^ I have the Innovate SCG-1 as well and I love it so far, but I haven't really had much experience with any other controller to be able to compare.

Rob298mx 10-10-2015 08:40 AM

My Scg-1boost is all over the place. Not sure why, hits target then bounces from 13 to 10 to 12 then 9....wicked pain in the ***


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