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Originally Posted by paratrooper This is pretty interesting to me... let me explain. I spoke with BP about a kit and thought my gosh the price is great. Then I

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Old 12-11-2014, 09:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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This is pretty interesting to me... let me explain. I spoke with BP about a kit and thought my gosh the price is great. Then I got ahold of a place to install and tune and it was the same cost as the kit itself. That being the case I thought 15k was pretty steep to drop for FI, knowing that if money is at all a concern I shouldn't mess with it. That being said, your explaination sure makes it sound like I can spend the 7k and have this knocked out in my garage within a week and be up and running... pending a tune.

Is that really the case ?
Add in the cost for a clutch (and a csc and flywheel since you're in there), gauges, tune, boost controller, probably a radiator (add in the cost to recharge the ac system after install), an exhaust if you don't have one, etc. A FI kit is never the total cost. Budget 3-5k for supporting mods and tune.
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Add in the cost for a clutch (and a csc and flywheel since you're in there), gauges, tune, boost controller, probably a radiator (add in the cost to recharge the ac system after install), an exhaust if you don't have one, etc. A FI kit is never the total cost. Budget 3-5k for supporting mods and tune.
I think I'm making the right decision then to hold off until I have another 5k or so saved up so I can just send it off and have everything done at once. I reallllly want FI but I'm not willing to short cut anywhere.

In the meantime I suppose I'll dump some cash into some NA mods, understanding there is little room to grow and I'll end up reselling most of them, but it will keep me happy until I find the end of the rainbow.
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I think I'm making the right decision then to hold off until I have another 5k or so saved up so I can just send it off and have everything done at once. I reallllly want FI but I'm not willing to short cut anywhere.

In the meantime I suppose I'll dump some cash into some NA mods, understanding there is little room to grow and I'll end up reselling most of them, but it will keep me happy until I find the end of the rainbow.
Spend the money on the suspension. It'll scratch the modding itch and it won't be wasted money.
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However, Yes you can have this kit installed in a week. Its a beautiful thing. You don't NEED a new clutch, radiator, etc...

You know its crazy how HP has gotten lately. I remember in the 350z era when we made 400whp we were all going crazy, and it was awesome! Fast and fun. Now it seems if your not making 500+ its sub par...lol..

What I am getting at is that if he wants to go with the kit and some gauges that really is all you need if your ok with 7lbs of boost and taking it from 230whp to 400! Still is an insane increase. Then when you get the itch...and you will... get a better clutch and supporting mods for whatever you need. Guys are putting 450 to the stock clutch. ALTHOUGH, I wouldn't trust the csc at all.
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You don't NEED a new clutch, radiator, etc...
I'd argue that. You're blocking off the factory radiator with an intercooler. It'll be seeing nothing but hot air now. Additional capacity is pretty necessary at that point. Water temps get hot on these cars. Also, given how much of the kit you'd have to remove to swap out a clutch, doing it before the kit goes on is the most cost-effective option if you're paying labor.
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I'd argue that. You're blocking off the factory radiator with an intercooler. It'll be seeing nothing but hot air now. Additional capacity is pretty necessary at that point. Water temps get hot on these cars. Also, given how much of the kit you'd have to remove to swap out a clutch, doing it before the kit goes on is the most cost-effective option if you're paying labor.
Chuck, I would argue that since I am in Colorado and we seldom see 90+ degree days. However, even in the dead of summer I never seen my temps rise very much at all, but then again im running a colder fuel. Houston on pump gas could be very different.

But.. I have honestly never seen a need for an aftermarket radiator, for street use, on any of my vehicles. I had a twin charged 350z making extreme under hood temps with the top mount supercharger and the top mount turbo along with not 1 but 2 intercoolers plugging the air flow. I can honestly say that I never seen my temp rise at all.

Now if you are going to be doing autocross or time attacks thats a different situation.
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Chuck, I would argue that since I am in Colorado and we seldom see 90+ degree days. However, even in the dead of summer I never seen my temps rise very much at all, but then again im running a colder fuel. Houston on pump gas could be very different.

But.. I have honestly never seen a need for an aftermarket radiator, for street use, on any of my vehicles. I had a twin charged 350z making extreme under hood temps with the top mount supercharger and the top mount turbo along with not 1 but 2 intercoolers plugging the air flow. I can honestly say that I never seen my temp rise at all.

Now if you are going to be doing autocross or time attacks thats a different situation.
Are you talking water or oil temp? How are you monitoring water temp?
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