So just ordered my Stillen SC

Team_STILLEN · 07-28-2014, 04:57 PM

I think if going with a bigger/more efficient heat exchanger makes you feel better or make a difference (I haven't seen documentation so I can't say for sure) there is no danger in that mod. You're not changing anything to add pressure or stress to the system.

We will be test out our high boost kit soon and will see what the limitations and issue are with the kit as is. If the heat exchanger proves to be an issue we will include one with the new kit or offer it as an upgrade.

ANMVQ · 07-28-2014, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Team_STILLEN

I think if going with a bigger/more efficient heat exchanger makes you feel better or make a difference (I haven't seen documentation so I can't say for sure) there is no danger in that mod. You're not changing anything to add pressure or stress to the system.

We will be test out our high boost kit soon and will see what the limitations and issue are with the kit as is. If the heat exchanger proves to be an issue we will include one with the new kit or offer it as an upgrade.

Hey Mark,
There is actually I thread on here where it showed more WHP with the frozenboost heat exchanger, it was one of the euro guys VLAD!
He did runs without it and runs with it, he had gains thought he power band .

diego@vossen · 07-28-2014, 05:52 PM

Hmmm maybe when I swap injectors/UPREV Sensors I will add this as well. More cool never hurts

370zrider · 07-28-2014, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Team_STILLEN

I think if going with a bigger/more efficient heat exchanger makes you feel better or make a difference (I haven't seen documentation so I can't say for sure) there is no danger in that mod. You're not changing anything to add pressure or stress to the system.

We will be test out our high boost kit soon and will see what the limitations and issue are with the kit as is. If the heat exchanger proves to be an issue we will include one with the new kit or offer it as an upgrade.

Interesting, do you have more info. about the new kit ?

Team_STILLEN · 07-28-2014, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ

Hey Mark,
There is actually I thread on here where it showed more WHP with the frozenboost heat exchanger, it was one of the euro guys VLAD!
He did runs without it and runs with it, he had gains thought he power band .

I can't find it

Pro4Jackster · 07-28-2014, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Team_STILLEN

The new kit will feature the 9lb pulley, 1000cc injectors, a tune, and possibly a new IC (needs testing to see if it is necessary or with the extra cost).

Why not offer it with the SI impeller ($365) and the 8 psi pulley? 2-3 psi gain at the same rpms. What do you gain from changing out an 8 psi pulley for a 9 psi pulley? 12-15 hp?

mikey1600 · 07-28-2014, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Team_STILLEN

I can't find it

The new kit will feature the 9lb pulley, 1000cc injectors, a tune, and possibly a new IC (needs testing to see if it is necessary or with the extra cost).

yeah this is not what I was hoping for haha.

I was thinking an upgraded blower/E85 compatible fuel pump/injectors at a minimum

gussyturbo z · 07-28-2014, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Team_STILLEN

Test pipes will cause you to lose some boost pressure in the cylinder. We have seen around 10-20 whp losses with HFC's and Test Pipes.

You think I should go back with HFC? i do have a 3" a am exhaust. I don't know what to do!!

gussyturbo z · 07-28-2014, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Z&I

Hard to say what is going on with your car without looking at the dyno sheet or test driving it ...
It could be almost anything.

But any time you change or alter something in the power train you are going to affect everything else as well.

Your car might benefit by the back pressure caused by the cats.

I had PPE long tube headers with no cats on my car ...
That combo created an easier exhaust flow with a smoother scavange, but at the cost of increased loudness, emission odors, and perhaps a little drop in torque.

With the tune - my car did have a pretty flat torque curve which all but eliminated the flat spots during acceleration.

Hope this helps...

Thanks man! I guess I will try some HFC. Recommend any? I have the AAM 3" exhaust that helped a lot. When I changed the HFC to test pipes it felt different .

mikey1600 · 07-29-2014, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by gussyturbo z

You think I should go back with HFC? i do have a 3" a am exhaust. I don't know what to do!!

he's saying with the stillen supercharger kit, it works better with more back pressure, so going from test pipes to HFC probably won't make much difference, the 3" exhaust won't be helping with this either, but remember, don't judge your dyno numbers vs other peoples, every dyno is different and will read different figures.

the only way you can truely measure your gains is on the same dyno and roughly the same temperature during your runs, you would need to do some before and after, but again the money you spend to change parts, probably isn't worth the HP you MAY gain, there is no guarantee.

mikey1600 · 07-29-2014, 02:58 AM

infact you'd be better off;

adding oil cooler if your temps are too hot
adding larger heat exchanger if your temps are too hot
adding water/meth kit to either aid as a safety or increase timing
adding fuel pump/injectors to suit E85 and re-tune if it's available in your area

they will yield better results then changing your exhaust without wasting money.

ANMVQ · 07-29-2014, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Team_STILLEN

I can't find it

The new kit will feature the 9lb pulley, 1000cc injectors, a tune, and possibly a new IC (needs testing to see if it is necessary or with the extra cost).

Hey Mark ,
Post 34

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Croydon Racing Developments Stillen Custom Tune

ANMVQ · 07-29-2014, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ

Hey Mark ,
Post 34

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Croydon Racing Developments Stillen Custom Tune

I would take a look into motion labs thread also I know everyone's numbers are different but they tunes your kit with the impeller upgrade . Say they made 484?
Motion Lab Tuned Nismo 484whp/400wtq @ 12.5psi w/ Vortech impeller on the Stillen S/C

Team_STILLEN · 07-29-2014, 10:46 AM

We have not really considered the impeller upgrade as it would no longer be a simple bolt on upgrade for the current STILLEN Kit. We like to make products that will be safe, reliable, and are pretty straight forward. If we feel there is enough of a demand for a more extreme (call it stage 3 or 4) upgrade with a different compressor wheel and completely different fuel system we will look into it.

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Originally Posted by gussyturbo z

You think I should go back with HFC? i do have a 3" a am exhaust. I don't know what to do!!

You should go back to stock cats if you are running the STILLEN Kit. I would highly recommend stock cats. High flow cats are more likely to blow out and you will still only make a little more power over test pipes. Stock cats will get you the best power.

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ

Hey Mark ,
Post 34

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Croydon Racing Developments Stillen Custom Tune

Thanks Mike! I will be going over this with our tuner and engineer.

1slow370 · 07-29-2014, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Team_STILLEN

I can't find it

The new kit will feature the 9lb pulley, 1000cc injectors, a tune, and possibly a new IC (needs testing to see if it is necessary or with the extra cost).

so it still isnt going to do 500 out of the box?

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07-28-2014, 04:57 PM	#211 (permalink)
Team_STILLEN Base Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Costa Mesa, California Posts: 216 Drives: 2009 370Z Rep Power: 20	I think if going with a bigger/more efficient heat exchanger makes you feel better or make a difference (I haven't seen documentation so I can't say for sure) there is no danger in that mod. You're not changing anything to add pressure or stress to the system. We will be test out our high boost kit soon and will see what the limitations and issue are with the kit as is. If the heat exchanger proves to be an issue we will include one with the new kit or offer it as an upgrade. Nism0 likes this. __________________ Financing with Affirm now available!!! *STILLEN* \| Robin \| Performance Specialist \| rmoses@stillen.com\| 800.576.2131 x133 \|

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mikey1600 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 503 Drives: MY11 370z Black Rep Power: 15	infact you'd be better off; adding oil cooler if your temps are too hot adding larger heat exchanger if your temps are too hot adding water/meth kit to either aid as a safety or increase timing adding fuel pump/injectors to suit E85 and re-tune if it's available in your area they will yield better results then changing your exhaust without wasting money. DEpointfive0 likes this.

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diego@vossen Track Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Miami Posts: 614 Drives: Nismo 370Z 6MT Tech Rep Power: 13	Hmmm maybe when I swap injectors/UPREV Sensors I will add this as well. More cool never hurts