So just ordered my Stillen SC

whiddles · 07-07-2014, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Team_STILLEN

Yes, watch out for this. If you use no Anti-Freeze in your IC and it gets below freezing temperatures where you live it could cause this type of damage. Please follow the installation instructions and pay attention to what conditions call for what. In warmer climates such as Southern California, Florida, Texas, etc...water and water wetter will be fine. If you live in colder climates (northern US/Canada) this could cause ice to form in the IC core or heat exchanger which can cause leaks.

I like that now it froze to cause the problem when the car does not go out in rain or snow and sits in a climate control garage all winter. Plus the thing blew while driving 3 weeks in to summer and the temp was 80-90s. Good laugh Team Stillen

mikey1600 · 07-06-2014, 07:56 PM

yup, only used the Motul Mocool + demineralized water here, never going to freeze where I live.

Team_STILLEN · 07-07-2014, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mikey1600

yup, only used the Motul Mocool + demineralized water here, never going to freeze where I live.

Glad to hear it. We are looking forward to seeing your tuning results

mikey1600 · 07-07-2014, 03:23 AM

okay guys, just uploaded my images to Imgur, bare with me!

So vvel parameters weren't available for my car, something has been sent off to UpRev so this can be done as well, so should expect some more from 5000rpm onwards. how are the A/F ratios looking? it's fairly rich driving it fair bit of unburnt fuel smoking out when into it a lot.

KW and Boost

KW vs NA car (had similar mods as mine, just high flow cats + cat back exhaust) on another dyno here I pulled 196KW, so this is obviously way low, kinda sucks cause numbers are low, but it pulls hard and more tuning to do!

KW and Torque

KW and A/F

vlad370z · 07-07-2014, 05:09 AM

my dyno results

red stillen heat exchanger

blue re tune with frozen boost heat exchange

no vvel done

my tune is conservative

mikey1600 · 07-07-2014, 07:57 AM

nice man! do you have an A/F and KW on same graph print-out? would love to compare

the dyno mine got done on 370z with bolt-ons only got 176KW lol, so guessing mine is around similar mark, I'll go to a couple dyno days to see which dyno's read what

not too worried about the numbers atm, boost level is reaching 9psi and it hammers!

vlad370z · 07-07-2014, 09:08 AM

here is my stock so your about the same, enjoy the purrrrrrrrrr

Team_STILLEN · 07-07-2014, 10:42 AM

Your AFR seems a little too up and down. The numbers are close to where they should be. I'd be more concerned with the power you made but if you couldn't mess with the timing then it is understandable. You should hit 300+ KW with your setup. Have your tuner clean up the AFR a bit when you go back for your next tune along with the timing.

mikey1600 · 07-08-2014, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Team_STILLEN

Your AFR seems a little too up and down. The numbers are close to where they should be. I'd be more concerned with the power you made but if you couldn't mess with the timing then it is understandable. You should hit 300+ KW with your setup. Have your tuner clean up the AFR a bit when you go back for your next tune along with the timing.

where should we be aiming for AFR wise? I would have thought tune would have been super clean, they are a pro uprev dealer. I see my peak number flatten out and the AFR come from around 11.7-11.8 to 13. there is a lot of unburnt fuel I think it could go a little leaner.. I know safe is good but kind of looks to be quite rich.

also what sort of timing should we roughly be looking at? I can ask what it's at or any graphs of it, forgot to ask about it. Any help would be appreciative and I can point them in the right direction and we can do some testing to make sure there's no detonation.

It's currently middle of winter here, so out and about most places where I am, gets down to 0ish-10degrees celcius while nighttime, would you also advise a sort of summer tune? pull back some of the timing during the hotter weather?

Team_STILLEN · 07-07-2014, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by whiddles

I like that now it froze to cause the problem when the car does not go out in rain or snow and sits in a climate control garage all winter. Plus the thing blew while driving 3 weeks in to summer and the temp was 80-90s. Good laugh Team Stillen

We never said it froze, I just said to watch out for that as that could be a possible cause for such damage. No need to get defensive. I've never seen (in person or in pictures) your insulated/climate controlled garage and you have not sent in your IC for evaluation so all I can do is speculate just as you have.

whiddles · 07-08-2014, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Team_STILLEN

We never said it froze, I just said to watch out for that as that could be a possible cause for such damage. No need to get defensive. I've never seen (in person or in pictures) your insulated/climate controlled garage and you have not sent in your IC for evaluation so all I can do is speculate just as you have.

sorry about that I took it personally.

mikey1600 · 07-08-2014, 04:45 AM

Also from the speed on dyno sheets, looks to be 3rd gear pulls, wouldn't 4th be better in a 6 speed?

mikey1600 · 07-08-2014, 06:05 AM

Next up is potential E85..

would I see full benefit from it considering the kit as it is, is pretty maxed out considering the charge pipe/maf's etc..?

I haven't seen anyone else with the stillen kit on E85

theDreamer · 07-08-2014, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mikey1600

Next up is potential E85..

would I see full benefit from it considering the kit as it is, is pretty maxed out considering the charge pipe/maf's etc..?

I haven't seen anyone else with the stillen kit on E85

You would probably be the first known on the forum to do e85 for the Stillen kit.
Waiting on final results of a GTM SC kit to see any potential in general for the 370z with SC. I would say you might see more power increase as you can push the car a bit more while keeping it in a safe range. Though you just did your install and I would say to make the jump to e85 would require some new fuel parts you just installed.

mikey1600 · 07-08-2014, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

You would probably be the first known on the forum to do e85 for the Stillen kit.
Waiting on final results of a GTM SC kit to see any potential in general for the 370z with SC. I would say you might see more power increase as you can push the car a bit more while keeping it in a safe range. Though you just did your install and I would say to make the jump to e85 would require some new fuel parts you just installed.

yeah, is there someone doing E85 on the GTM SC? got the link to the build?

won't be doing it right away, probably after april next year (going away overseas holiday for couple weeks). I was going to do it straight up with the stillen install, but the difference between the tuner kit (minus fuel pump/injectors) and the full kit was couple hundred, couldn't justify it. Just figured I'd install this for now, tune it get used to the added power then step up later down the track, would possibly still be able to sell the fuel pump/injectors cheap to someone local here in Aus by then.

also not to mention how much of a pain it would be to get to the injectors again haha, stillen manifold is a bitch to put on.

07-06-2014, 07:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
mikey1600 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 503 Drives: MY11 370z Black Rep Power: 17	yup, only used the Motul Mocool + demineralized water here, never going to freeze where I live. Team_STILLEN likes this.

07-07-2014, 03:23 AM	#4 (permalink)
mikey1600 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 503 Drives: MY11 370z Black Rep Power: 17	okay guys, just uploaded my images to Imgur, bare with me! So vvel parameters weren't available for my car, something has been sent off to UpRev so this can be done as well, so should expect some more from 5000rpm onwards. how are the A/F ratios looking? it's fairly rich driving it fair bit of unburnt fuel smoking out when into it a lot. KW and Boost KW vs NA car (had similar mods as mine, just high flow cats + cat back exhaust) on another dyno here I pulled 196KW, so this is obviously way low, kinda sucks cause numbers are low, but it pulls hard and more tuning to do! KW and Torque KW and A/F Last edited by mikey1600; 07-07-2014 at 03:28 AM. Reason: adding more pictures

07-07-2014, 07:57 AM	#6 (permalink)
mikey1600 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 503 Drives: MY11 370z Black Rep Power: 17	nice man! do you have an A/F and KW on same graph print-out? would love to compare the dyno mine got done on 370z with bolt-ons only got 176KW lol, so guessing mine is around similar mark, I'll go to a couple dyno days to see which dyno's read what not too worried about the numbers atm, boost level is reaching 9psi and it hammers! JWillis72 and vlad370z like this.

07-07-2014, 10:42 AM	#8 (permalink)
Team_STILLEN Base Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Costa Mesa, California Posts: 216 Drives: 2009 370Z Rep Power: 21	Your AFR seems a little too up and down. The numbers are close to where they should be. I'd be more concerned with the power you made but if you couldn't mess with the timing then it is understandable. You should hit 300+ KW with your setup. Have your tuner clean up the AFR a bit when you go back for your next tune along with the timing. __________________ Financing with Affirm now available!!! *STILLEN* \| Robin \| Performance Specialist \| rmoses@stillen.com\| 800.576.2131 x133 \|

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07-08-2014, 04:45 AM	#12 (permalink)
mikey1600 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 503 Drives: MY11 370z Black Rep Power: 17	Also from the speed on dyno sheets, looks to be 3rd gear pulls, wouldn't 4th be better in a 6 speed?

07-08-2014, 06:05 AM	#13 (permalink)
mikey1600 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 503 Drives: MY11 370z Black Rep Power: 17	Next up is potential E85.. would I see full benefit from it considering the kit as it is, is pretty maxed out considering the charge pipe/maf's etc..? I haven't seen anyone else with the stillen kit on E85