Reflections on GTM over the years

roplusbee · 07-02-2014, 04:45 AM

The one thing that I can say is pretty consistent with GTM turbo kits or builds is that they either have problems and issues getting them resolved OR they end up selling before it becomes a money pit.

Plenty of GTM customers have praised the company and bashed the "competition" (with exception of the OGs) and then turned around and complained later. I just don't get it......

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Dzel · 07-02-2014, 07:39 AM

This is a very much needed thread in this community. Way to go OP.

An LSX swap is crazy expensive. If you have an LS1 laying around then yeah maybe. But at the end of the day you can just buy a built car that already has an LSX in it and save you money.

Just to put things in perspective since I backed out of the MHI group buy. I've bought 2 vehicles one for the wife and the other broke into the low 11's, then got it to break into the 10's. Now I'm going turbo with a progressive boost program hoping to get closer to the 9's. I won't break 9's until I swap my block out for a built 383.

All the while GTM sounds like they are in the same place they were last year with the group buy, customer support, products that have failed, so on and so forth.

mikey1600 · 07-02-2014, 08:36 AM

unless you have done it yourself before, an LSX swap will either be a nightmare to DIY or very expensive shop wise, you'll get what 400rwhp out of a N/A LS1? what's the point..

I was considering doing this a while ago along with a VK56 swap, but the money and time involved just doesn't seem worth it, for the cost of a twin turbo kit/supercharger kit can't go wrong especially if you are living in the US which most of you are, if I was in the US I'd go a BP kit without hesitation.

I'm just kicking myself I didn't get my stillen kit 1.5 years ago instead of waiting for the MHI turbo kit..

2 week turn around for the kit, 1 week max to install taking plenty of time and making sure everything is fine, there is a lot more screwing around then I originally anticipated to get it installed but even still, no other choice here

STILL waiting on my bank to refund me though from the MHI group buy.. getting close to that 45 day period they were talking about that it would take, hopefully soon.

GL to anyone still in that thing

mikey1600 · 07-02-2014, 08:37 AM

btw has anyone rang lately to ask about the "cast parts" we were waiting on for over 1 year?

MMC Racing · 07-02-2014, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey1600

btw has anyone rang lately to ask about the "cast parts" we were waiting on for over 1 year?

Probably the shipping method..

Dzel · 07-02-2014, 09:22 AM

Lol that's right they've been on a ship for the last few months now....

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roplusbee · 07-02-2014, 04:11 PM

Lol.......wow!

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GrooveStyle · 07-02-2014, 05:29 PM

I asked Sam this last week as I await my refund, he said they're still waiting on the cast parts. The parts are paid for, just still waiting. Still no expected date that he could share...

Dzel · 07-02-2014, 08:10 PM

Does anyone think that maybe the company that they asked to do the cast parts took the money and ran? Why else would it take this long? I am in no way saying that just a thought.

Ill · 07-03-2014, 07:27 AM

I mentioned this thread to Sam a few days ago when I called him. He said he is aware of what everybody is saying and he acknowledged where he messed up. He also claimed that there are multiple people that he knows he will never be able to change their opinion of the company. His main focus right now is to make everything right by his customers. GTM wants to catch up on their orders and start to turn everything around. They want to go back to being a respected vendor and supplier of Z/G parts.

So he knows about the thread, he would rather spend his time catching up rather than posting and having a pissing contest with the same people over and over again.

I think it's a good thing, show people they can delivery rather then telling them they can.

I'm just the messenger, take his statements however you want.

Dzel · 07-03-2014, 07:59 AM

Well. That sounds great and all. But if I was in his shoes I would of "delivered" something. I would of sent what I have completed on the kit to show my customers hey here's what you paid minus the cast manifolds. Followed with. "I'm sorry about the delays. As soon as they come in we'll send them to you. If you want to fabricate your own manifolds we will discount the price of the manifolds from your total."

I guess what I'm trying to say is that actions are louder than words.

Ill · 07-03-2014, 08:18 AM

I'll agree with you on that, if people want to have parts of the kit that are already completed and ready to go, they should be able to receive them if they choose. They can't really do anything with half a kit, so what's the harm in giving it to the customers, either way they have to wait for it to be completed and shipped.

mikey1600 · 07-03-2014, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ill

I'll agree with you on that, if people want to have parts of the kit that are already completed and ready to go, they should be able to receive them if they choose. They can't really do anything with half a kit, so what's the harm in giving it to the customers, either way they have to wait for it to be completed and shipped.

that's the thing, they can't deliver! I had this very discussion with Sam about 7-8 weeks ago, expressed my concerns about not having any products yet at all but having paid in full over 1 year ago, I asked to have all of my items shipped to me that were apparently in stock (everything he told me was in stock except for 2x manifolds and some sensor component). I even said I will pay extra for shipping when the manifolds come in, he agree'd to this and asked me to give him 2-3 days to get the picking list organised, 2-3 days went by, I had rang and asked where my shipping tracking number was and he said they aren't going to send the parts anymore as him and his team think it's a bad idea.

that's when I pulled the plug and started my refund.

njobe89 · 07-03-2014, 09:02 AM

Actions > words

MMC Racing · 07-03-2014, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ill

I mentioned this thread to Sam a few days ago when I called him. He said he is aware of what everybody is saying and he acknowledged where he messed up. He also claimed that there are multiple people that he knows he will never be able to change their opinion of the company. His main focus right now is to make everything right by his customers. GTM wants to catch up on their orders and start to turn everything around. They want to go back to being a respected vendor and supplier of Z/G parts.

So he knows about the thread, he would rather spend his time catching up rather than posting and having a pissing contest with the same people over and over again.

I think it's a good thing, show people they can delivery rather then telling them they can.

I'm just the messenger, take his statements however you want.

I don't expect him to respond to this thread. What people want is him to post on his own threads or make a new one with status. It is sad that he is making excuses that he isn't posting because some people are going to take him to task for his actions. The longer he stays silent, the larger that group grows.

07-02-2014, 04:45 AM	#106 (permalink)
roplusbee A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Killeen, TX Posts: 2,360 Drives: 2007 350Z NISMO Rep Power: 23	The one thing that I can say is pretty consistent with GTM turbo kits or builds is that they either have problems and issues getting them resolved OR they end up selling before it becomes a money pit. Plenty of GTM customers have praised the company and bashed the "competition" (with exception of the OGs) and then turned around and complained later. I just don't get it...... Sent from my SGH-T889 using Tapatalk __________________ 2007 350Z NISMO #0618: Zerolift \| UPREV \| F.I. \| Greddy \| Competition Clutch \| Injector Dynamics \| Aeromotive \| Pioneer \| JL

07-02-2014, 07:39 AM	#107 (permalink)
Dzel A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Midland, TX Posts: 3,884 Drives: 11 370Z PW M6 Rep Power: 24	This is a very much needed thread in this community. Way to go OP. An LSX swap is crazy expensive. If you have an LS1 laying around then yeah maybe. But at the end of the day you can just buy a built car that already has an LSX in it and save you money. Just to put things in perspective since I backed out of the MHI group buy. I've bought 2 vehicles one for the wife and the other broke into the low 11's, then got it to break into the 10's. Now I'm going turbo with a progressive boost program hoping to get closer to the 9's. I won't break 9's until I swap my block out for a built 383. All the while GTM sounds like they are in the same place they were last year with the group buy, customer support, products that have failed, so on and so forth. mikey1600 and gbrettin like this. __________________ 10secWS6 IF YOU CAN'T SWING IT THEN DON'T BRING IT! Check out Domestic Performance C.C.

07-02-2014, 09:22 AM	#111 (permalink)
Dzel A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Midland, TX Posts: 3,884 Drives: 11 370Z PW M6 Rep Power: 24	Lol that's right they've been on a ship for the last few months now.... Sent with tapahoe __________________ 10secWS6 IF YOU CAN'T SWING IT THEN DON'T BRING IT! Check out Domestic Performance C.C.

07-02-2014, 04:11 PM	#112 (permalink)
roplusbee A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Killeen, TX Posts: 2,360 Drives: 2007 350Z NISMO Rep Power: 23	Lol.......wow! Sent from my SGH-T889 using Tapatalk __________________ 2007 350Z NISMO #0618: Zerolift \| UPREV \| F.I. \| Greddy \| Competition Clutch \| Injector Dynamics \| Aeromotive \| Pioneer \| JL

07-02-2014, 08:10 PM	#114 (permalink)
Dzel A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Midland, TX Posts: 3,884 Drives: 11 370Z PW M6 Rep Power: 24	Does anyone think that maybe the company that they asked to do the cast parts took the money and ran? Why else would it take this long? I am in no way saying that just a thought. __________________ 10secWS6 IF YOU CAN'T SWING IT THEN DON'T BRING IT! Check out Domestic Performance C.C.

07-02-2014, 08:36 AM	#108 (permalink)
mikey1600 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 503 Drives: MY11 370z Black Rep Power: 17	unless you have done it yourself before, an LSX swap will either be a nightmare to DIY or very expensive shop wise, you'll get what 400rwhp out of a N/A LS1? what's the point.. I was considering doing this a while ago along with a VK56 swap, but the money and time involved just doesn't seem worth it, for the cost of a twin turbo kit/supercharger kit can't go wrong especially if you are living in the US which most of you are, if I was in the US I'd go a BP kit without hesitation. I'm just kicking myself I didn't get my stillen kit 1.5 years ago instead of waiting for the MHI turbo kit.. 2 week turn around for the kit, 1 week max to install taking plenty of time and making sure everything is fine, there is a lot more screwing around then I originally anticipated to get it installed but even still, no other choice here STILL waiting on my bank to refund me though from the MHI group buy.. getting close to that 45 day period they were talking about that it would take, hopefully soon. GL to anyone still in that thing

07-02-2014, 08:37 AM	#109 (permalink)
mikey1600 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 503 Drives: MY11 370z Black Rep Power: 17	btw has anyone rang lately to ask about the "cast parts" we were waiting on for over 1 year?

07-02-2014, 05:29 PM	#113 (permalink)
GrooveStyle Base Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Waterloo, Iowa Posts: 230 Drives: '12 370z GM 6MT Rep Power: 14	I asked Sam this last week as I await my refund, he said they're still waiting on the cast parts. The parts are paid for, just still waiting. Still no expected date that he could share...

07-03-2014, 07:27 AM	#115 (permalink)
Ill Base Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Bellevue Posts: 177 Drives: 09 370z Base 6MT Rep Power: 14	I mentioned this thread to Sam a few days ago when I called him. He said he is aware of what everybody is saying and he acknowledged where he messed up. He also claimed that there are multiple people that he knows he will never be able to change their opinion of the company. His main focus right now is to make everything right by his customers. GTM wants to catch up on their orders and start to turn everything around. They want to go back to being a respected vendor and supplier of Z/G parts. So he knows about the thread, he would rather spend his time catching up rather than posting and having a pissing contest with the same people over and over again. I think it's a good thing, show people they can delivery rather then telling them they can. I'm just the messenger, take his statements however you want. __________________ Old - GTM TT Stage 1 - 487whp / 415wtrq - bunch of goodies. New - 2011 Shelby GT500 - 2.3L VMP TVS - JLT CAI. Last edited by Ill; 07-03-2014 at 07:30 AM.

07-03-2014, 07:59 AM	#116 (permalink)
Dzel A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Midland, TX Posts: 3,884 Drives: 11 370Z PW M6 Rep Power: 24	Well. That sounds great and all. But if I was in his shoes I would of "delivered" something. I would of sent what I have completed on the kit to show my customers hey here's what you paid minus the cast manifolds. Followed with. "I'm sorry about the delays. As soon as they come in we'll send them to you. If you want to fabricate your own manifolds we will discount the price of the manifolds from your total." I guess what I'm trying to say is that actions are louder than words. Zbrah likes this. __________________ 10secWS6 IF YOU CAN'T SWING IT THEN DON'T BRING IT! Check out Domestic Performance C.C.

07-03-2014, 08:18 AM	#117 (permalink)
Ill Base Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Bellevue Posts: 177 Drives: 09 370z Base 6MT Rep Power: 14	I'll agree with you on that, if people want to have parts of the kit that are already completed and ready to go, they should be able to receive them if they choose. They can't really do anything with half a kit, so what's the harm in giving it to the customers, either way they have to wait for it to be completed and shipped. Dzel likes this. __________________ Old - GTM TT Stage 1 - 487whp / 415wtrq - bunch of goodies. New - 2011 Shelby GT500 - 2.3L VMP TVS - JLT CAI.

07-03-2014, 09:02 AM	#119 (permalink)
njobe89 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2014 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 5,227 Drives: 2013 370z BS 6MT Rep Power: 174285	Actions > words Sodapopopopop and Dzel like this. __________________ 2 plus 2 times 2 = ? ... hint, it's not 8 Stillen CBE, Stillen Gen 3, TP's, Uprev tuned - 324whp/264tq

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