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Trips 02-12-2015 10:12 AM

I honestly hope we can stay on topic and get past any personal issues so this doesnt have to go the way of the Dodo bird.


Lets Keep it Civil and on Topic.


Thank You.

COSMO 02-12-2015 11:12 AM

Come on guys lets stop the name calling and I know I should be taking my own advice.. I think we can all agree it will be very interesting how this situation comes out with gtm.. Anyone care for a wager??

bullitt5897 02-12-2015 11:18 AM

My car is in my garage... Fyi... So your argument is invalid...

COSMO 02-12-2015 11:23 AM

Never built a stroker before. How much fuel pressure and timingis needed for such a setup?

Chuck33079 02-12-2015 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3109759)
My car is in my garage... Fyi... So your argument is invalid...

The 1kwhp GTM build is done? Why hasn't there been more fanfare? That thing is awesome! We've all been waiting a long time to check out the finished product.

COSMO 02-12-2015 11:29 AM

I have an order going through vivid for a exhaust manifold from gtm so we will see by the end of this month how that pans out. Supposed to be made to hold more heat and hopefully wont CRACK this time around... lol

bullitt5897 02-12-2015 12:43 PM

Here was the car before it shipped:
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...ps1akuwlys.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...ps1rghy2fc.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...pse5ovqtok.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...psubbof2lv.jpg

Both my Z's together:
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...pssdmgi8bm.jpg

Getting Gas after delivery:
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...psv57ronwa.jpg

Taking Delivery:
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...psnjz9c8fl.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...psqmskphaf.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...pshy8rtsou.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...pshgub5my1.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...psuosgzqqx.jpg

Low Boost leaving the 240 behind hahaha:
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...pshf4ojf4l.jpg

bullitt5897 02-12-2015 12:44 PM

I have video but it will take time to upload.

JARblue 02-12-2015 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3109765)
The 1kwhp GTM build is done? Why hasn't there been more fanfare? That thing is awesome! We've all been waiting a long time to check out the finished product.

Honestly, GTM doesn't deserve the attention :shakes head:

And bullitt would probably get railroaded for 'supporting' GTM :wtf2:

But :iagree: it is awesome and needs a thread all to itself :tup:

bullitt5897 02-12-2015 01:01 PM

^^^ this! I will be at zdayz of you want to see it in person!

elperuano 02-12-2015 01:06 PM

Car looks sweet. A finished build is a finished build.

Rusty 02-12-2015 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3109921)
^^^ this! I will be at zdayz of you want to see it in person!

I'll be here. :D I'll be looking you up. :tup:

By the way. Does the scooter come with it?

bullitt5897 02-12-2015 01:11 PM

hahaha we had sooo many jokes about the scooter that night... I even offered my friends 240 for it and the guy turned it down hahahaha

bullitt5897 02-12-2015 01:14 PM

By the way I am revamping alot of stuff on the car... so it is on jack stands for the moment. We may also be pursuing another tuning avenue outside of Uprev... The car drives like a big turbo supra... about 400rwhp in the low rpm while its spooling then bam light speed! I have yet to take a full throttle pull.

brutusvk 02-14-2015 09:41 AM

If a business has a long reputation of bad or problematic transactions and you still decide to patronise their services, you have nothing to complain about and nobody should feel sorry for you. If you get burned before the problems are known, complain away, help prevent others. If you stand up for a lousy business and try to convince others "this time will be different", ask yourself why you are setting yourself to look bad and shouldn't you bare some guilt when more people get screwed over? I got no dog in this fight. But I have seen this over and over in all car forums.

DEpointfive0 02-14-2015 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 3109621)
I talk to him all the time. Hopefully he will have the stroker ready to ship in less than a month. Yes there have been setbacks.
But make no mistake GTM will make a comeback.
A lot smaller but he intends to make every thing right over time.


Z

Brother... I don't know how you haven't SHÍT yourself... The Canadian weed must be amazing, because you've paid them like $50k over... 2-3 years ago...(?)

Chuck33079 02-14-2015 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 3111847)
Brother... I don't know how you haven't SHÍT yourself... The Canadian weed must be amazing, because you've paid them like $50k over... 2-3 years ago...(?)


Denial isn't just a river in Egypt, man.

phunk 02-14-2015 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 3109621)
I talk to him all the time. Hopefully he will have the stroker ready to ship in less than a month. Yes there have been setbacks.
But make no mistake GTM will make a comeback.
A lot smaller but he intends to make every thing right over time.


Z

A machine shop in town here just did a 4.0L or 4.3L (cant remember which size) VHR stroker for a non-forum-member I know. Took them about 8-10 weeks with delays in backordered main bearings from ACL and the first set of pistons being the wrong pistons. Cost him less than $10,000 for the entire short block said and done and assembled ready and waiting for heads.

The customer paid around $5000-6000 up front for the parts, then the bill for the machine work, assembly, etc at time of delivery.

Let me know if you want me to put you in touch with this shop.

phunk 02-14-2015 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3109942)
By the way I am revamping alot of stuff on the car... so it is on jack stands for the moment. We may also be pursuing another tuning avenue outside of Uprev... The car drives like a big turbo supra... about 400rwhp in the low rpm while its spooling then bam light speed! I have yet to take a full throttle pull.

How much power does the car have now?

I know the big fuel pump was pulled out of it because it was found in one of the rescued cars that ended up getting finished and tuned somewhere else.

Is the GT-R manifold still on your car? I was under the impression that was also pulled off and put on the same car.

09nismo498 02-14-2015 05:26 PM

what shop phunk? just curious
Quote:

Originally Posted by phunk (Post 3111980)
A machine shop in town here just did a 4.0L or 4.3L (cant remember which size) VHR stroker for a non-forum-member I know. Took them about 8-10 weeks with delays in backordered main bearings from ACL and the first set of pistons being the wrong pistons. Cost him less than $10,000 for the entire short block said and done and assembled ready and waiting for heads.

The customer paid around $5000-6000 up front for the parts, then the bill for the machine work, assembly, etc at time of delivery.

Let me know if you want me to put you in touch with this shop.


phunk 02-14-2015 05:33 PM

Its a local walk-in-only family owned machine shop. I wouldn't post their info to a message board without their consent... especially this thread.

DEpointfive0 02-14-2015 05:35 PM

Most shops that rebuild engines can install a stroker kit. I believe the only specialty equipment an engine builder needs is just a cylinder honer, or whatever the hell it's called

phunk 02-14-2015 05:38 PM

Sort of... But in the VQ's case, a stroker generally involves wet sleeves; now removing most machine shops from the equation. The guy I know has a large investment into a Mazak machining center that is dedicated to performing wet sleeve installation. He also has experience with wet sleeving Nissan 60 degree V6s.

Also, a high end machine shop has an endless list of specialty equipment well beyond boring and honing for engine balancing and assembly. If the only equipment your builder has that you have never used before is for boring and honing, your odds of a successful build will be greater somewhere else.

bullitt5897 02-14-2015 08:51 PM

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I know the member who got my parts... We already had a several hour phone conversation about it.

We went even larger on the fuel pumps I will attach a pic of it next to an oem unit and a 340lph that most run...

Yes I still have the GTR intake manifold as well see my avatar...

bullitt5897 02-14-2015 08:53 PM

As far as power is concerned... I am having the car gone through by a local mechanic that I trust. Once that is finished I will start a thread on this specific build.

phunk 02-14-2015 09:01 PM

Ah an Aeromotive in-tank.

I wasnt sure on the intake, just assumed it was yours that made it to his car.

phunk 02-14-2015 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3112128)
As far as power is concerned... I am having the car gone through by a local mechanic that I trust. Once that is finished I will start a thread on this specific build.

Well posting your fuel pump photo certainly re-qualifies the car to me! Not to assume you cared what I thought... but when I was imagining your car just having a stock pump module back in it now, I wasnt figuring to myself that that car was quite as high of power as you may have thought. But I am glad to be pleasantly surprised.

JARblue 02-15-2015 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3109921)
^^^ this! I will be at zdayz of you want to see it in person!

Wish I could be there this year. Visiting family in FL May 15-19 tho... BUT!! .. I have convinced the wife 2016 ZDayZ is on! :tup: :driving:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 3111847)
Brother... I don't know how you haven't SHÍT yourself... The Canadian weed must be amazing, because you've paid them like $50k over... 2-3 years ago...(?)


The good $hit is always homegrown ;)

MMC Racing 02-15-2015 09:23 AM

Status on CARB certified supercharger kit????? :rofl2: When it is ready, I'll buy another 370z to put it on.

COSMO 02-15-2015 09:47 AM

Holy Shiat tell me you didn't just go there.. lmao!!!!:rofl2::rofl2:




Quote:

Originally Posted by MMC Racing (Post 3112409)
Status on CARB certified supercharger kit????? :rofl2: When it is ready, I'll buy another 370z to put it on.


mikey1600 02-15-2015 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmc racing (Post 3112409)
status on carb certified supercharger kit????? :rofl2: When it is ready, i'll buy another 370z to put it on.

lol

MMC Racing 02-15-2015 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COSMO (Post 3112425)
Holy Shiat tell me you didn't just go there.. lmao!!!!:rofl2::rofl2:

I went balls deep in that mutha.

370Zsteve 02-16-2015 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMC Racing (Post 3112409)
Status on CARB certified supercharger kit????? :rofl2: When it is ready, I'll buy another 370z to put it on.

I am not gonna run thru this whole thread, so:

Did you investigate Stillen's CARB-cert solution or wasn't it enough powah?

370Zsteve 02-16-2015 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3112128)
As far as power is concerned... I am having the car gone through by a local mechanic that I trust. Once that is finished I will start a thread on this specific build.

Keep us posted, or better yet, start the thread so I can sub, lol.

MMC Racing 02-19-2015 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 3113716)
I am not gonna run thru this whole thread, so:

Did you investigate Stillen's CARB-cert solution or wasn't it enough powah?

Too lazy to answer you directly.

G37sTT 02-20-2015 01:32 AM

csf radiator
 
The only issue I have had with my build is that I am on my 3rd CSF radiator. And they just released a revised one (FML).........[/QUOTE]


Dang Man You Too? i am on my 3rd CSF radiator as well,yeah they replaced the first 2 two..but what about $300+ in mechanics fee's +time...i picked CSF cause they had good reviews..Hopefully their newest ish is better..

And i think GTM's customer service is fine..not AMAZING..BuT not horrible..definitely Acceptable and sometimes quite well...i've been in contact with him as i am preparing to have them Built me a 4.2L Stroker Longblock,and then i might ship my car out to them to have it installed as well.He's treated me fairly,prepared my quote and for the most part answered all my questions..(an i ask alot) ...So yeah Hopefully G.T.M is doing well and Continues to do So.. as im fixing to spend almost 20grand with them, I'd Hope So..lol

njobe89 02-20-2015 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G37sTT (Post 3117190)
The only issue I have had with my build is that I am on my 3rd CSF radiator. And they just released a revised one (FML).........


Dang Man You Too? i am on my 3rd CSF radiator as well,yeah they replaced the first 2 two..but what about $300+ in mechanics fee's +time...i picked CSF cause they had good reviews..Hopefully their newest ish is better..

And i think GTM's customer service is fine..not AMAZING..BuT not horrible..definitely Acceptable and sometimes quite well...i've been in contact with him as i am preparing to have them Built me a 4.2L Stroker Longblock,and then i might ship my car out to them to have it installed as well.He's treated me fairly,prepared my quote and for the most part answered all my questions..(an i ask alot) ...So yeah Hopefully G.T.M is doing well and Continues to do So.. as im fixing to spend almost 20grand with them, I'd Hope So..lol

[/QUOTE]

let me get the 20 grand... 50/50 you'll never see it again either way

Kojack 02-20-2015 06:46 AM

Did z-eliminator ever get his motor?

Z eliminator 02-20-2015 07:55 AM

Not yet, but Sam call's me every week, to give me an update.
was hoping to get it by mid march.
he's trying but to tell you guy's everything went wrong with the motor build.
we are now looking at a GTM wet sump set up.
I know exactly whats going on with the motor and I just have to wait.
Am I happy about this, absolutely not. My car has been sitting in my garage since June 2013.
there has been a lot of broken promises from GTM.
but over the last 10 years , every thing that ive bought from has been delivered. It just take 6 months to 2 years to get it from GTM.
That's how it works.
Its killing me that I have not been to the drag strip in 2 years.
Hopefully when I get he engine I can take the N/A time into the 11.8's before I put he SC on it.

Z

FPenvy 02-20-2015 07:58 AM

from reading this and many other posts in thread I think I've come up with the answer as to why the group buy money is lost.

the group buy money funded Z eliminators engine and bullitt's 1000k hp build lol

I say this since GTM wont even acknowledge 99% of you exist, but those 2 still have work being completed.

(this is meant to be funny. no offense to zelim and bullitt. both are great guys :tup: )


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