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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance That set-up (fuel and turbo) is good for 600whp on pump gas....all day long. I would not complicate things with water/meth. This is a BP

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Old 03-07-2014, 10:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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That set-up (fuel and turbo) is good for 600whp on pump gas....all day long. I would not complicate things with water/meth.

This is a BP customer with a 6266 T4 .81 a/r tangential (non twin scroll) turbo on a VQ35DE engine. This was a simple 9.8:1 CR short block build. Nothing else was done to the engine...just the short block build. Stock cams, stock intake...not even a plenum spacer:



Vince said that the tune was conservative.

With the VQ37VHR, you can expect even better numbers due to the increased efficiency of the twin scroll. 650whp on a DJ should not be an issue with the Stage I (6266) version of this kit, and 93 pump gas..... provided that the fuel support is there (pump/injectors/supply to fuel rails).

I have one customer that made almost 700whp (DJ) with a twin scroll 6766 T4 1.32 a/r turbo kit on a VQ35DE, also pump gas and a short block build. (sorry don't have the dyno for that).

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Are you talking about Binder's car from my 350 forum ?
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Are you talking about Binder's car from my 350 forum ?
Thank you...these billet T4 frame turbos are a great match to the VQ engines.


No, binder made 651whp but his twin disc clutch went down the hill after that....just couldn't hold the power. The 651whp was at about 6,000rpm...so he still had a lot more left in there if it wasn't for the clutch slipping.

Found the graph of Binders car, and his twin disc clutch letting go. This is also the older 6765 turbo, the 6766's are a nice improvement in every aspect:



Don is the one that made almost (if not exactly) 700whp on a DJ. This was on a dyno shoot-out event...hence no graph.
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Thank you...these billet T4 frame turbos are a great match to the VQ engines.


No, binder made 651whp but his twin disc clutch went down the hill after that....just couldn't hold the power. The 651whp was at about 6,000rpm...so he still had a lot more left in there if it wasn't for the clutch slipping.

Found the graph of Binders car, and his twin disc clutch letting go. This is also the older 6765 turbo, the 6766's are a nice improvement in every aspect:



Don is the one that made almost (if not exactly) 700whp on a DJ. This was on a dyno shoot-out event...hence no graph.
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Yeah, that is what a slipping clutch curve will look like. There is a point where it just can't hold any more...That can be looked at as a very good thing though.
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Ok so what I'm hearing is I may be good for high 500
With my current fuel setup
But for 600+ go return
E85 is just to far from me to be reasonable
And I think I can manage the water meth levels
and have them tune the car without going nuts on the timing

So returnless..340lph and 750 cc should be ok

If nothing else that water meth is used for a bit more safety
I don't drive my car like a mad man but I am all for reliability
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