S&R Performance single turbo kit?

Mr&Mrs · 03-14-2014, 03:58 PM

Just curious but if someone is pushing near 600 WHP what is that at the crank? I don't want to go over 500WHP unless I build the bottom end.

AdobePhil · 03-14-2014, 03:59 PM

Is anyone in here talking hypotheticals and then requiring numbers a tuner? Didn't think so. The point to finding the sweet spot UNIVERSALLY is getting to the effective compression ratio. safe is 12.0.1 for aluminum heads tuned for 91 pump. I'm running 14.3 on a formula designed for 91 pump. But I'm tuned for 93 which is SAFE on the block. Now, if you want to talk about wear and tear on the other components, I'm all ears but I've already upgraded everything you can think of.

Besides the Fact that I'm upgrading to steel forged in about 2 months I'm not terribly worried about blowing it.

again, It's all in the tune, and no-one has had a problem with their motor since this kit's inception. is 3 years a long enough time? Probably not if you want your car to last for 25... but you have to pay to play... so stop complaining. People wouldn't be in the FI forum if they didn't have the $$$ needed to support their hobby.

AdobePhil · 03-14-2014, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr&Mrs

Just curious but if someone is pushing near 600 WHP what is that at the crank? I don't want to go over 500WHP unless I build the bottom end.

There have been people who say that our Z's lose about 17% on the dyno from crank to wheels. so 500 * 1.17 = 585 at the crank. again... ROUGHLY... not an exact formula.

Mr&Mrs · 03-14-2014, 04:03 PM

Dude people are not complaining your taking it the wrong way. Guys here look out for each other and those are dangerous numbers without being able to see cylinder pressure. Just don't want to see you stranded with a rod sticking out of your hood lol

Mr&Mrs · 03-14-2014, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdobePhil

There have been people who say that our Z's lose about 17% on the dyno from crank to wheels. so 500 * 1.17 = 585 at the crank. again... ROUGHLY... not an exact formula.

That's what I couldn't remember, so ya I'm not going over 500 for my own piece of mind.

AdobePhil · 03-14-2014, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr&Mrs

Dude people are not complaining your taking it the wrong way. Guys here look out for each other and those are dangerous numbers without being able to see cylinder pressure. Just don't want to see you stranded with a rod sticking out of your hood lol

It's all good, and I get that and appreciate it, I was just a bit pissed at the flaming ******* who said he's looking forward to me blowing my motor

Sent from my finfers i cant\ feerl cduse im dgrunk dfrink ushing TAP TALK

AdobePhil · 03-14-2014, 04:22 PM

anyway here is the dyno readout

palombo6801 · 04-15-2014, 11:33 PM

so since you got your S&R kit installed, have you had a lot of heat soak issues? i always see nice numbers but i would put this on my DD soooo jw hows everyday use been for this kit??

*** and any one had any issues with vented hoods and top mount??

but kit looks clean for sure

AdobePhil · 04-15-2014, 11:37 PM

No heat soak issues for me. The GTR vents on my seibon cf hood are functioning like a champ. The heat blanket is holding up extremely well here in Florida. No issues whatsoever so far. Loving the kit.

Sent from my finfers i cant\ feerl cduse im dgrunk dfrink ushing TAP TALK

palombo6801 · 04-17-2014, 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdobePhil

No heat soak issues for me. The GTR vents on my seibon cf hood are functioning like a champ. The heat blanket is holding up extremely well here in Florida. No issues whatsoever so far. Loving the kit.

Sent from my finfers i cant\ feerl cduse im dgrunk dfrink ushing TAP TALK

you sir are makeing me excited lol ... whats the longest you would say you have driven in a straight shot.. time wise? i drive 50 miles to work daily lmao

AdobePhil · 04-17-2014, 08:29 AM

I've driven to Orlando from Clearwater. 250 miles or so.

Sent from my finfers i cant\ feerl cduse im dgrunk dfrink ushing TAP TALK

AdobePhil · 04-17-2014, 08:31 AM

Engine heat stays below half.. I have a 32 block oil cooler so even at full boost for an extended period my oil temps don't go over 215F in 80 degree weather. Off boost they cool down to about 190.

Sent from my finfers i cant\ feerl cduse im dgrunk dfrink ushing TAP TALK

MidnightBlueZ · 04-17-2014, 09:11 AM

I'll be picking my car up Saturday and driving home to Nashville TN so I'll let you know about my experience. I also will have the 34 row oil cooler on mine.

mikey1600 · 04-17-2014, 01:27 PM

Nice figures mate, I think it's important for everyone to keep track of the numbers/long term time frame people are running the same numbers to evaluate the stock block HP/TQ numbers.

I'm awaiting my new GTM kit to start pushing it here in Aus, will start with the basic 10-11psi for a few months then onto E85, as it's readily available in my area, there is no problems with me running it, company who will do my install is a "pro-tuner" according to the UpRev website. E85 will come within 1-2 months really. As far as I've seen there is no real limit as far as HP/TQ on the cars from the forums and have been following since 2009, most people are saying safe 500RWHP/400-500TQ but there's not much evidence either for or against this, so will push and see what we can do.

mikey1600 · 04-17-2014, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdobePhil

anyway here is the dyno readout

Honestly mate, I think anyone who is willing to fork out the $$ for FI/upgrade to see where we can go, appreciates your input.

keep going and keep us updated

03-14-2014, 03:58 PM	#76 (permalink)
Mr&Mrs A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,192 Drives: RZ34 Rep Power: 15161	Just curious but if someone is pushing near 600 WHP what is that at the crank? I don't want to go over 500WHP unless I build the bottom end. __________________ Project Z <--Click - Check out the link too many mods to list!

03-14-2014, 03:59 PM	#77 (permalink)
AdobePhil Base Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Palm Harbor FL Posts: 211 Drives: 2010 370z Sport Trim Rep Power: 14	Is anyone in here talking hypotheticals and then requiring numbers a tuner? Didn't think so. The point to finding the sweet spot UNIVERSALLY is getting to the effective compression ratio. safe is 12.0.1 for aluminum heads tuned for 91 pump. I'm running 14.3 on a formula designed for 91 pump. But I'm tuned for 93 which is SAFE on the block. Now, if you want to talk about wear and tear on the other components, I'm all ears but I've already upgraded everything you can think of. Besides the Fact that I'm upgrading to steel forged in about 2 months I'm not terribly worried about blowing it. again, It's all in the tune, and no-one has had a problem with their motor since this kit's inception. is 3 years a long enough time? Probably not if you want your car to last for 25... but you have to pay to play... so stop complaining. People wouldn't be in the FI forum if they didn't have the $$$ needed to support their hobby. __________________ 2010 370z Sport Trim / Anodized Racing Pedals / Injen CAI / Invidia Exhaust / Kinetix HFCs/ AEM 320ml Fuel Pump / Upgraded fuel lines and rails / Deutchwerks 850cc Fuel Injectors / Zex Nitrous / Uprev Tuned / /330whp N/A/452whp Nitrous

03-14-2014, 04:03 PM	#79 (permalink)
Mr&Mrs A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,192 Drives: RZ34 Rep Power: 15161	Dude people are not complaining your taking it the wrong way. Guys here look out for each other and those are dangerous numbers without being able to see cylinder pressure. Just don't want to see you stranded with a rod sticking out of your hood lol AdobePhil likes this. __________________ Project Z <--Click - Check out the link too many mods to list!

03-14-2014, 04:22 PM	#82 (permalink)
AdobePhil Base Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Palm Harbor FL Posts: 211 Drives: 2010 370z Sport Trim Rep Power: 14	anyway here is the dyno readout gbrettin and elperuano like this. __________________ 2010 370z Sport Trim / Anodized Racing Pedals / Injen CAI / Invidia Exhaust / Kinetix HFCs/ AEM 320ml Fuel Pump / Upgraded fuel lines and rails / Deutchwerks 850cc Fuel Injectors / Zex Nitrous / Uprev Tuned / /330whp N/A/452whp Nitrous

04-15-2014, 11:37 PM	#84 (permalink)
AdobePhil Base Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Palm Harbor FL Posts: 211 Drives: 2010 370z Sport Trim Rep Power: 14	No heat soak issues for me. The GTR vents on my seibon cf hood are functioning like a champ. The heat blanket is holding up extremely well here in Florida. No issues whatsoever so far. Loving the kit. Sent from my finfers i cant\ feerl cduse im dgrunk dfrink ushing TAP TALK palombo6801 likes this. __________________ 2010 370z Sport Trim / Anodized Racing Pedals / Injen CAI / Invidia Exhaust / Kinetix HFCs/ AEM 320ml Fuel Pump / Upgraded fuel lines and rails / Deutchwerks 850cc Fuel Injectors / Zex Nitrous / Uprev Tuned / /330whp N/A/452whp Nitrous

04-15-2014, 11:33 PM	#83 (permalink)
palombo6801 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Ft hood/deployed Posts: 11 Drives: 03' 350z Rep Power: 11	so since you got your S&R kit installed, have you had a lot of heat soak issues? i always see nice numbers but i would put this on my DD soooo jw hows everyday use been for this kit?? *** and any one had any issues with vented hoods and top mount?? but kit looks clean for sure

04-17-2014, 08:29 AM	#86 (permalink)
AdobePhil Base Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Palm Harbor FL Posts: 211 Drives: 2010 370z Sport Trim Rep Power: 14	I've driven to Orlando from Clearwater. 250 miles or so. Sent from my finfers i cant\ feerl cduse im dgrunk dfrink ushing TAP TALK __________________ 2010 370z Sport Trim / Anodized Racing Pedals / Injen CAI / Invidia Exhaust / Kinetix HFCs/ AEM 320ml Fuel Pump / Upgraded fuel lines and rails / Deutchwerks 850cc Fuel Injectors / Zex Nitrous / Uprev Tuned / /330whp N/A/452whp Nitrous

04-17-2014, 08:31 AM	#87 (permalink)
AdobePhil Base Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Palm Harbor FL Posts: 211 Drives: 2010 370z Sport Trim Rep Power: 14	Engine heat stays below half.. I have a 32 block oil cooler so even at full boost for an extended period my oil temps don't go over 215F in 80 degree weather. Off boost they cool down to about 190. Sent from my finfers i cant\ feerl cduse im dgrunk dfrink ushing TAP TALK __________________ 2010 370z Sport Trim / Anodized Racing Pedals / Injen CAI / Invidia Exhaust / Kinetix HFCs/ AEM 320ml Fuel Pump / Upgraded fuel lines and rails / Deutchwerks 850cc Fuel Injectors / Zex Nitrous / Uprev Tuned / /330whp N/A/452whp Nitrous

04-17-2014, 09:11 AM	#88 (permalink)
MidnightBlueZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 291 Drives: 13 Nissan 370Z Turbo Rep Power: 16	I'll be picking my car up Saturday and driving home to Nashville TN so I'll let you know about my experience. I also will have the 34 row oil cooler on mine. AdobePhil likes this.

04-17-2014, 01:27 PM	#89 (permalink)
mikey1600 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 503 Drives: MY11 370z Black Rep Power: 15	Nice figures mate, I think it's important for everyone to keep track of the numbers/long term time frame people are running the same numbers to evaluate the stock block HP/TQ numbers. I'm awaiting my new GTM kit to start pushing it here in Aus, will start with the basic 10-11psi for a few months then onto E85, as it's readily available in my area, there is no problems with me running it, company who will do my install is a "pro-tuner" according to the UpRev website. E85 will come within 1-2 months really. As far as I've seen there is no real limit as far as HP/TQ on the cars from the forums and have been following since 2009, most people are saying safe 500RWHP/400-500TQ but there's not much evidence either for or against this, so will push and see what we can do.

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