How is this thread still alive?

It's fueled by the lies fed to GTM's customers

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god damn I'm glad I got my money back. I think I got out right at the last minute. Seriously, good luck to anyone still dealing with it, I really hope you get your money back and get everything sorted out. Btw if you do get your money back, I highly recommend boosted performance, it is an amazing kit, and couldn't be happier. (not to mention the customer service is outstanding!)

GTM is dead, but I hear MTG, also in the LA area, is coming out with exactly the same kit. Pre-order going up soon.

And don't forget, it's going to be CARB certified. :inoutroflpuke:

They already have the application approved and the car is at the testing facility.. :rofl2:

Soo GTM is closed? Out of business? Should i file for fraud?

How about picking up the phone and give them a call? Or read everyones posts? Jesus.... lol

justed called and ask if they were still in business and he put me on hold...

pre-orders......uhhhhh no! never again.

Why don't we just put this nasty GTM past behind us and move on with FAST INTENTION TT products ( Except for the people still have their money stuck with GTM ).

Yes, FI is more money but that would pay for the real quality and long term reliability for the product that is made in the USA rather than overseas or out of the country. We certainly do not want to have anymore cracked exhaust manifolds other manufacturing headaches, do we ? Also Dan and Tony have been providing very superior customer support up to now. To me it is worth the xtra cost by looking at the GTM nightmarish situation.

^well said.

My only regret is not waiting longer (would have been over a year tho) for FI's kit or them not making it fast enough!

My regret is not getting the stillen kit over 1 year ago before this turbo kit was announced lol

Exactly! They got bashed real bad there, but my friend's had the first VQ35HR build at Forged and it took 7 shipments and several months to get all the correct parts. They told Spohn last 4th of July that he wasn't going to see it before the new year. Also, they sent a kit to another shop I work with, with everything, except the actual turbos.

That and everytime I powdercoat a set of brakes for them, it takes over a year until the next set they want coated for them to pay me for the last set. I'm still owed too, but I have just written it off.

Didn't want to say anything while they were still viable, but telling people to dispute their charges shows they are gone.

Welp, I'm tapping out. Called Sam, he said to send an email and they'll "put me on the list"... He said it will likely be 4-6 weeks. Sounds familiar...

Sounds like the ship is sinking to me..Someone who should do some public information research and see if and when they filed for Chapter bankrupcy or not. If the date wea prior to them still taking peoples money for TT kits they manufacturer you can possibly prove criminal wrongdoing.

No Bankruptcies yet.... But their Credit scores are very low, to the point if they were applying for credit from me I would not give them any!

Ty. Good to know, call me an idiot, but i guess am still in

Ok so I figure it's safe for me to share this now. I was told by several people not to badmouth GTM on the forums or I would be banned from the forums and blackballed so I did most of my bitching to Sam directly and to people via PMs. I'm running a GTM 1.5 SC kit and love it but man, getting it delivered and installed was a nightmare. Here's my story:

(Written by me, about 8 months ago)

Honestly, now I feel guilty for being so mad at them looking at what you folks are going through now.

I was operating under the assumption that their customer service sucked but that the kits were solid. I really hated talking to those dudes. Always made me feel like I should consider myself lucky that they were nice enough to take my money. I always figured it was because I'm new to "performance cars" and ask a ton of questions. I also wanted a constant running dialogue with them during the kit construction (I didn't get it) - and once I felt like they were dodging my calls, that only made me call more.

Lol. Wonder who it was that told u not to say anything. I'd bank it was a moderator seeing as how they love to clean up gtm threads.

It wasn't anything sinister. It was people in my local car club who said people had been banned/blackballed for saying anything even remotely approaching criticism of GTM so I decided to err on the side of caution. Kinda wish I hadn't.

Edit: I'm gonna go ahead and remove that GTM decal from my window right about now. Props to Moore Automotive and Hill's Garage who suffered through the install and "clean-up" with me.

You're not the only person that had issues with GTM. Hill's Garage is great! I've been going there for about 5 years now and they really make you feel like part of the family.

Frank and Suzanne are great people. Expensive as hell but man, Frank knows these cars inside and out.
Worth every penny.

He's going to be handling my E85 upgrade/re-tune here shortly. Going to bump up to 1000cc Injector Dynamics and a beefier fuel pump. He talked me out of a fuel return system.

Sam actually called me today. I am as shocked as all of you are. It was about my car that is in their shop, not the MHI kit. Te fact that he called and spoke with me was news I figured you all would like to hear. No dodging my emails or phone calls yet.

dmhenderson just read your post, after that and Infedel's issues with getting his kit, I'm glad I opted for a refund and filed a claim with my credit company. I was considering going the supercharger kit swap a while ago, but after all this time and all these problems, no way.

it's just sad really, this could have been such a great product and move for the community if handled correctly, but it's just turned to ****.

Hey don't get me wrong. Now that the kit is installed, it's awesome.

Yeah, :iagree:
Once, IF you can wait to get everything, GTM's products are pretty damn solid, yes there have been a few cracked manifolds, but hell, they have sold a LOT of kits for a LOT of cars

Sam was always good at placing blame on the install shop. It's his specialty and catch all phrase..Cause apparently no one besides him knows what they are doing..LOL

I don't usually call things as solid unless they are 100% authentic from A to Z and not copied from X company and made from overseas. That's just me.

I've been told the same from numerous shops here in Aus who have dealt with GTM and used GTM parts, they always tell me things blow out way over expected delivery dates while waiting for the parts but the parts themselves are generally good quality.

As I said earlier, If I was in the US and close to GTM and could pop in to see how things are running, I would probably still be in the group buy, but being overseas it gets a little more scary when you try come up with a solution to at least get some parts to clear up any bad thoughts but are shut down even when you have paid in full while people who are pulling out are waiting weeks/months to get refunds.

Two shops that have been in this business a very long time in my area echo this sentiment. Their customer service has always been...lacking and the delivery timetables are horrible but once you get the kit, it's quality.

Now who knows what sourcing decisions they've made since last year when I got my kit. Looking at that youtube nightmare halfway through this thread, clearly they have some pretty serious "issues" as of late but I can tell you that two shops have gone over my SC kit with a magnifying glass (because I'm paranoid as hell) and both have told me that it's solid.

Also I'm not sure what you mean by "overseas". Many (many) industries and parts shop use suppliers outside of the US. My car was built and assembled in Japan. Many of the parts on my car came from Japan.
I'm not sure that overseas part vendors are a good barometer for what's good and what isn't.

Another tuning shop in my area posted on my FB page that they ordered a supercharger kit from GTM back in January and are still waiting for delivery. The customer has long since cancelled the order but they still haven't seen anything except some "dubious in-progress pics". The guy who owns the shop is still holding out some faint hope that they'll deliver it...eventually.

Calling GTM products solid is of no compliment to them. You do realize they manufacture absolutely zero of their products right? So their Turbo kits include "brand X" turbos and "brand X" waste gates and a "brand X" intercooler, the fact that the turbos,wastegates and intercooler are of good quality are no indication that GTM makes a solid product. Just that they utlize good components in their kits.

Its really not rocket science what were looking at here. GTM may mock up or have another shop mock up a kit for them, then they contract another place to manufacture the kits in mass quantity for them. They may do some intercooler piping or various little things in house, but I can assure you the major components of the kit are not made on site.

Do you honestly think GTM CNC machines a bracket for a Supercharger in their facility? Do you really think they make their own superchargers? Not even HKS does that and their 10 times the size of GTM, they contract it out to a company that makes supercharges.

Im not sure if you guys realize this or not, but you could probably have a custom fabrication shop that specializes in that sort of thing, make you a custom one off TT kit to your own specs at around the same price if not less than the GTM kit, which they make a nice profit off of. GTM would have to make at least 40% profit on the kits for them to be worth wile to make and sell. So do the math...

But just so we are clear, GTM produces nothing of quality. They may subcontract other companies to do this for them, but its NOT them making it.

Oh no I understand that GTM isn't making the components but that doesn't mean the kits aren't good. I'm super pleased with mine despite the fact that I overpaid for it


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looking at the "who's viewing" at the bottom is my favorite part of this thread lol

:bowrofl:

ok my :twocents:

soooo i know i'm not part of this since when the kit was annouced i got my quote prior to the group buy even going down.....thankfully i decided to not give them money. i seriously feel bad for you all. this is such a bad situation and it's not like the pulley group buy that people got screwed over like $100. this is way more money and time.

also this seems that it may cause a larger negative effect on the community. i saw this because if a company that seems to be as large as GTM can go bust and screw so many people, then it will be even harder in the future for smaller companies with quality products/ideas to get things off the ground.

i could be wrong or maybe out of line a bit, but it just saddens me to see anything negative happen to the 370Z platform. i'd prefer for every thing to go well and the platform/community to thrive.

in the end i really hope anyone who's getting bent over and done with no lube that you get your money back or whatever resolution you're looking for.

Don't know if you missed the videos they put up but they do have CNC's and they do make their own brackets and components now. I walked through there and saw the machines running and piles of brackets and things stacked on pallets around the machines. I would agree that they probably don't make the turbos, wastegates, and bov's since they all say turbosmart or garret on them though.

I think when they say gtm makes/sells a solid kit, it's that it does what it says it will do, it's mostly reliable, and has quality components.

This probably dates be but this reminds me so much of the whole Altered Atmosphere situation - it's kinda scary.

Yeah I dunno that I'd trust an unproven in-house manufactured BPV or SC. I'm very happy that they used Turbosmart and Rotrex for my kit.

Folks, as much as people are unhappy with this situation, please don't dogpile for the hell of it. GTM's customer service is absolutely horrid and they may or may not be in financial trouble but that doesn't mean that everyone should jump on the "GTM PUTS OUT A SHITTY PRODUCT" bandwagon ...because they haven't and don't. Forums tend to demonize/dogpile very quickly - just look at the guy who accused Sam of doing the same thing on the 350z.com forums *in this very thread* and it ruined his business..

Sure, there have been a few failures here and there but I'm sure you could find just as many component failures with Stillen or Greddy if you wanted to.

I think that GTM's products isn't exactly shitty. I think it is the fact that GTM takes forever to fix defects or problems with the kits. This is the only thing that makes it shitty.

When I bought my BP kit, one of the pipes were welded the wrong angle and Sasha sent a new one within a week. I didn't even have to send the old pipe back.