Stillen SC - put on your seat belts

JWillis72 · 11-20-2013, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan

yeah a local guy I know has the Stillen kit and they were running 95%+ IDC's on the injectors that came with the kit during the tuning process so they couldn't maximize power.

He had to 'upgrade' to 600CC injectors, which is absurd since the stockers are ~400CC.. how tiny of an injector did Stillen include??? lol

My kit came with 600cc injectors.

Chuck33079 · 11-20-2013, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72

My kit came with 600cc injectors.

Did you buy the kit new or upgrade it in any way? It didn't use to be 600cc.

1087 · 11-20-2013, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Did you buy the kit new or upgrade it in any way? It didn't use to be 600cc.

Chuck... the kit comes with 600cc injectors.

Chuck33079 · 11-20-2013, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 1087

Chuck... the kit comes with 600cc injectors.

Did it always? Quite a few people had really high idcs on their injectors. Hopefully the improved that part of the kit.

Sh0velMan · 11-21-2013, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 1087

Chuck... the kit comes with 600cc injectors.

It may come with 600's now, but a year ago it DID NOT come with 600's.

I know this for a fact.

Sh0velMan · 11-20-2013, 10:12 AM

Yeah the local guy I speak of got his right at a year ago I believe and it came with the 540's or whatever.

They may have bumped to 600's since then.

Also, if you got a "tuner" kit and then had your installer/tuner get the injectors and pump, that would explain why you have 600's as well.

raymondo510 · 11-20-2013, 10:32 PM

If you get a custom tune instead of using the stillen tune doesn't that void your warrant?

1slow370 · 11-20-2013, 11:09 PM

Yep it does.

1slow370 · 11-21-2013, 03:22 AM

Yeah but the gtm stage 1.5 or 2 kit makes 50hp more than that, and the vhr should take closer to 550 s/c or more safely because the torque comes on more even. As for the tranny you cant compare the 6 speed to the old z32 5 speed. The gearset in our trans is huge like 50% bigger than a mkiv supra tt tranny huge. There is a reason the thing weighs as much as it does. I've only heard of two non synchro related failures on the new 6 speed and both were near or over 700whp, and I know there are cars running even more than that.

Edit: Also both failures were input shafts breaking off near the pilot bushing so the could have been related to the clutch.

Shamrock · 11-21-2013, 07:57 AM

Sorry to hijack😏 but should I remove stillen headers and return stock headers? Also the stillen cat's material inside tends to break apart. The question is whether to clean the interals of the stillen cats out and leave them as test pipes or to return stock cats. Stock headers and stillen cats? Stillen headers and stock cats? Stock and stock or stillen and stillen?

thanks

Bart

Shamrock · 11-21-2013, 08:03 AM

This is the list I was recently sent. My kit is 1 yr old.

thanks

Bart

Sh0velMan · 11-21-2013, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Shamrock

This is the list I was recently sent. My kit is 1 yr old.

thanks

Bart

Damn, guess my friend got ripped off by Stillen. His kit came with ~540's.

When they go to tune your kit, if you're in the ~410WHP range and your injector duty cycles are over 90%, they didn't send you 600's, no matter what that checklist says.

Shamrock · 11-21-2013, 08:07 AM

What interest would a world renowned company have in ripping your friend off? I doubt it.

thanks

Bart

Chuck33079 · 11-21-2013, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan

Damn, guess my friend got ripped off by Stillen. His kit came with ~540's.

He wouldn't be the only one based on some of the IDCs people have seen.

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan

When they go to tune your kit, if you're in the ~410WHP range and your injector duty cycles are over 90%, they didn't send you 600's, no matter what that checklist says.

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Originally Posted by Shamrock

What interest would a world renowned company have in ripping your friend off? I doubt it.

thanks

Bart

Let's not go crazy here.

Sh0velMan · 11-21-2013, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Shamrock

What interest would a world renowned company have in ripping your friend off? I doubt it.

thanks

Bart

The almighty dollar?

I dunno, it could have been an oversight, maybe 540's are supposed to be for the 350z kit or something, no idea. I just know his came with 540's.

11-20-2013, 10:12 AM	#6 (permalink)
Sh0velMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Dallas/Ft.Worth Posts: 3,349 Drives: Noisily. Rep Power: 21	Yeah the local guy I speak of got his right at a year ago I believe and it came with the 540's or whatever. They may have bumped to 600's since then. Also, if you got a "tuner" kit and then had your installer/tuner get the injectors and pump, that would explain why you have 600's as well. __________________ Buy My Car! \| Build Thread

11-20-2013, 10:32 PM	#7 (permalink)
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1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	Yep it does. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

11-21-2013, 03:22 AM	#9 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	Yeah but the gtm stage 1.5 or 2 kit makes 50hp more than that, and the vhr should take closer to 550 s/c or more safely because the torque comes on more even. As for the tranny you cant compare the 6 speed to the old z32 5 speed. The gearset in our trans is huge like 50% bigger than a mkiv supra tt tranny huge. There is a reason the thing weighs as much as it does. I've only heard of two non synchro related failures on the new 6 speed and both were near or over 700whp, and I know there are cars running even more than that. Edit: Also both failures were input shafts breaking off near the pilot bushing so the could have been related to the clutch. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50 Last edited by 1slow370; 11-21-2013 at 03:24 AM.

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11-21-2013, 07:57 AM	#10 (permalink)
Shamrock Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Israel Posts: 215 Drives: 370z 2011 AT White Rep Power: 14	Sorry to hijack😏 but should I remove stillen headers and return stock headers? Also the stillen cat's material inside tends to break apart. The question is whether to clean the interals of the stillen cats out and leave them as test pipes or to return stock cats. Stock headers and stillen cats? Stillen headers and stock cats? Stock and stock or stillen and stillen? thanks Bart

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Shamrock Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Israel Posts: 215 Drives: 370z 2011 AT White Rep Power: 14	This is the list I was recently sent. My kit is 1 yr old. thanks Bart

11-21-2013, 08:07 AM	#13 (permalink)
Shamrock Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Israel Posts: 215 Drives: 370z 2011 AT White Rep Power: 14	What interest would a world renowned company have in ripping your friend off? I doubt it. thanks Bart