So what exactly is wrong with the Stillen SC kit?

brucelidat · 09-13-2013, 08:37 PM

So I have been reading on the supercharger threads and there seems to be a lot of bashing of the Stillen kit. I have not read any details, though, as to what the problems are with the Stillen kit. I've read about some really lame gains with the box tune, but that seems to be fixed with a proper tune. If anyone can tell me issues members have been having with the Stillen kit or direct em to some threads that explain the problems, that would be great. I am leaning towards a GTM stage 1.5 kit is I do it, but would like to do my full research since the Stillen one is CARB approved.

Thanks

Mr. Q · 09-13-2013, 08:54 PM

The problem is stillen doesnt put enough sugar in their kool aid

elperuano · 09-13-2013, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Q

The problem is stillen doesnt put enough sugar in their kool aid

if you can relate to this, this is spot on.

DEpointfive0 · 09-13-2013, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Q

The problem is stillen doesnt put enough sugar in their kool aid

But tells you there is more than enough

snowsurfdirtx · 09-13-2013, 09:24 PM

tip. register your car in CA in a county that doesn't require smog. i have one of my cars still registered in the city of Bishop with a friend. it's carb, so you know its gonna be mild. carb = nazis. TRUST me i know.

stillen kit.. no real air to air FMIC. vortech s/c. canned tune. etc. if you really read and do your research, you'll see a GTM S/C kit is the way to go if thats the route you want to take. I'm going GTM 1.5. I've read for countless hours and went back and forth between turbo/s and superchargers. I originally wanted the stillen, because i'm a CA resident and i'll move back one day. but fact is, stillen is good if you want a CA legal alternative that will make a little bit of power. if you modify it, its not carb legal anymore anyway. when i move back to CA, i'll remove my kit, register the car in a county that doesn't require smog, and reinstall it. problem solved. and btw, I have read things about registering your car through a PO box in CA. do it in a county that doesn't require smog and i think you're home free. just travel to renew your tags once a year.

elperuano · 09-13-2013, 10:12 PM

If u want power in carb state, stick to bolt ons.

brucelidat · 09-13-2013, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by snowsurfdirtx

tip. register your car in CA in a county that doesn't require smog. i have one of my cars still registered in the city of Bishop with a friend. it's carb, so you know its gonna be mild. carb = nazis. TRUST me i know.

stillen kit.. no real air to air FMIC. vortech s/c. canned tune. etc. if you really read and do your research, you'll see a GTM S/C kit is the way to go if thats the route you want to take. I'm going GTM 1.5. I've read for countless hours and went back and forth between turbo/s and superchargers. I originally wanted the stillen, because i'm a CA resident and i'll move back one day. but fact is, stillen is good if you want a CA legal alternative that will make a little bit of power. if you modify it, its not carb legal anymore anyway. when i move back to CA, i'll remove my kit, register the car in a county that doesn't require smog, and reinstall it. problem solved. and btw, I have read things about registering your car through a PO box in CA. do it in a county that doesn't require smog and i think you're home free. just travel to renew your tags once a year.

This is interesting. So I should make a fiend in Bishop or look into P.O boxes...

snowsurfdirtx · 09-13-2013, 11:54 PM

the PO box thing is so people that live in RV's and travel / don't have a permanent address can get their registration. only a few states do it if i remember.

brucelidat · 09-14-2013, 12:21 AM

Wait, are you saying having a SC kit is a felony? The funny thing is I will probably be putting the stock cats back on if I do it.

DEpointfive0 · 09-14-2013, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by snowsurfdirtx

the PO box thing is so people that live in RV's and travel / don't have a permanent address can get their registration. only a few states do it if i remember. but I warn you. if you get pulled over with a car that has removed emissions stuff.. it's a felony in CA and depending on what you did they can take your ride.

Please don't feed and spread this BULLSHÍT. This is 100000000% wrong, you can get a ticket, that's about it.

But thank you for your service

snowsurfdirtx · 09-14-2013, 07:15 AM

youre welcome, DE. and i guess i read it wrong all that time ago. I used to drive a 96 GSX, big turbo, no cats, smokey. I had CHP pull me over, and refer me to some code where it listed it all out. maybe it was that if a shop removed stock cats it could be a felony? I forget. I was exhausted when i posted that and I appologize for the bad info

theDreamer · 09-14-2013, 12:23 PM

One of the things people dislike is even with a good tune the Stillen kit falls below the GTM kit in HP and TQ, mainly TQ.
Also, all who try to reach 500whp stop and switch kits, the stillen kit just seems limited in its expand ability.

I have known a few owners and they like it for what it is and the power it provides. With a good tune and supporting mods it can be a solid kit, just limited versus other options.

1slow370 · 09-14-2013, 07:17 PM

should offer the V7 JT or YSi as an upgrade

ANMVQ · 09-15-2013, 06:26 PM

Would say anything is wrong , per say? True you will NOT see 500 WHP probably the only thing wrong. But is a very good kit . I had it modded something's (SC impeller, pump , injectors , heat exchanger, an MAF's) and was still under 500 WHP (457) but as a DD an have smog in MA Was nice to have a CARB kit.

brucelidat · 09-15-2013, 06:28 PM

Not saying the Stillen kit is great or anything since I don't have it, but when they say 500hp, they mean bhp so if you get 425whp, you are hitting their rating, though it seems like most don,t hit that either.

09-13-2013, 08:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 30	So what exactly is wrong with the Stillen SC kit? So I have been reading on the supercharger threads and there seems to be a lot of bashing of the Stillen kit. I have not read any details, though, as to what the problems are with the Stillen kit. I've read about some really lame gains with the box tune, but that seems to be fixed with a proper tune. If anyone can tell me issues members have been having with the Stillen kit or direct em to some threads that explain the problems, that would be great. I am leaning towards a GTM stage 1.5 kit is I do it, but would like to do my full research since the Stillen one is CARB approved. Thanks __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

09-13-2013, 08:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mr. Q Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 349 Drives: 09 MB 370z Rep Power: 15	The problem is stillen doesnt put enough sugar in their kool aid TerribleONE, fuct, elperuano and 1 others like this.

09-13-2013, 11:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
snowsurfdirtx Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: WA Posts: 285 Drives: Too Fast Rep Power: 12	the PO box thing is so people that live in RV's and travel / don't have a permanent address can get their registration. only a few states do it if i remember. Last edited by snowsurfdirtx; 09-14-2013 at 07:12 AM. Reason: bad info lol

09-14-2013, 12:21 AM	#9 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 30	Wait, are you saying having a SC kit is a felony? The funny thing is I will probably be putting the stock cats back on if I do it. __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

09-14-2013, 12:23 PM	#12 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	One of the things people dislike is even with a good tune the Stillen kit falls below the GTM kit in HP and TQ, mainly TQ. Also, all who try to reach 500whp stop and switch kits, the stillen kit just seems limited in its expand ability. I have known a few owners and they like it for what it is and the power it provides. With a good tune and supporting mods it can be a solid kit, just limited versus other options. JDMFairlady21 and elperuano like this. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

09-13-2013, 09:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
snowsurfdirtx Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: WA Posts: 285 Drives: Too Fast Rep Power: 12	tip. register your car in CA in a county that doesn't require smog. i have one of my cars still registered in the city of Bishop with a friend. it's carb, so you know its gonna be mild. carb = nazis. TRUST me i know. stillen kit.. no real air to air FMIC. vortech s/c. canned tune. etc. if you really read and do your research, you'll see a GTM S/C kit is the way to go if thats the route you want to take. I'm going GTM 1.5. I've read for countless hours and went back and forth between turbo/s and superchargers. I originally wanted the stillen, because i'm a CA resident and i'll move back one day. but fact is, stillen is good if you want a CA legal alternative that will make a little bit of power. if you modify it, its not carb legal anymore anyway. when i move back to CA, i'll remove my kit, register the car in a county that doesn't require smog, and reinstall it. problem solved. and btw, I have read things about registering your car through a PO box in CA. do it in a county that doesn't require smog and i think you're home free. just travel to renew your tags once a year.

09-13-2013, 10:12 PM	#6 (permalink)
elperuano A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Southwest FL Posts: 1,374 Drives: G37S Rep Power: 28	If u want power in carb state, stick to bolt ons.

09-14-2013, 07:15 AM	#11 (permalink)
snowsurfdirtx Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: WA Posts: 285 Drives: Too Fast Rep Power: 12	youre welcome, DE. and i guess i read it wrong all that time ago. I used to drive a 96 GSX, big turbo, no cats, smokey. I had CHP pull me over, and refer me to some code where it listed it all out. maybe it was that if a shop removed stock cats it could be a felony? I forget. I was exhausted when i posted that and I appologize for the bad info

09-14-2013, 07:17 PM	#13 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7250	should offer the V7 JT or YSi as an upgrade __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

09-15-2013, 06:26 PM	#14 (permalink)
ANMVQ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Framingham MA Posts: 2,732 Drives: 2014 Q50 AWD Rep Power: 19	Would say anything is wrong , per say? True you will NOT see 500 WHP probably the only thing wrong. But is a very good kit . I had it modded something's (SC impeller, pump , injectors , heat exchanger, an MAF's) and was still under 500 WHP (457) but as a DD an have smog in MA Was nice to have a CARB kit. __________________ 14 Q50 AWD, ARK, ECUTEK (SEB), Takda,

09-15-2013, 06:28 PM	#15 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 30	Not saying the Stillen kit is great or anything since I don't have it, but when they say 500hp, they mean bhp so if you get 425whp, you are hitting their rating, though it seems like most don,t hit that either. __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

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