safe to drive SC untuned for 50 miles?

brucelidat · 09-05-2013, 12:04 PM

So I am looking at my options for getting a supercharger kit installed in my Z. I have figured that I can save around 1k in labor costs having it installed at a tuner shop closeby. Will there be any problems with me driving the car, untuned with the SC kit for 40-50 miles to a Z specialist shop to tune?

Also, hoe easy is it to swap out the pulleys for more boost in the future? I am considering getting a stage 2 but doing less boost because the 7AT is iffy with handling 500whp (plan to keep it more in the 440whp range). This would leave me the option of going higher in the future if I decide it's worth it to do the GTM valve body upgrade.

Also any experience form guys with autos running boost and tranny reliability at your power levels would be helpful as well.

Chuck33079 · 09-05-2013, 12:15 PM

I wasn't aware that there was any sc kit on the market that didn't send you a base map. I would sooner drive a TT kit untuned than a sc kit, since the sc kit is always making at least a little boost.

brucelidat · 09-05-2013, 12:22 PM

Can a local shop that doesn't have uprev do the base tune?

Chuck33079 · 09-05-2013, 12:24 PM

The kit should come with the cable. You can load the map yourself if you DIY the install, so I can't imagine why they couldn't.

brucelidat · 09-05-2013, 12:31 PM

Oh, okay. I was under the impression that you needed uprev to do the tune since GTM asked me if I had an uprev license (which I do) when i was asking them about install costs.

Chuck33079 · 09-05-2013, 12:34 PM

If you've already got the license and cable, what's the question? Bring your laptop and load up the base map when you go pick up the car.

brucelidat · 09-05-2013, 12:40 PM

I have the license from when I got my car tuned (though I'm not sure what my license is). I didn't know it was that easy. If it comes with a cable, then I guess it'll all be fine. Now the questions is do I go safe with stage 1, closer to the safe limit with stage 1.5, or future possible upgradeability with stage 2 and larger pulleys...

Chuck33079 · 09-05-2013, 12:44 PM

You're in CA, so you can't get decent gas and have to do all of that CARB bs. I'll defer to Sam on that one.

DEpointfive0 · 09-05-2013, 12:45 PM

I think you'll need to upgrade to Osiris?

(I'm not a tuning terminology guru)

Chuck33079 · 09-05-2013, 12:45 PM

I'm pretty sure that's what he means when he says he has an Uprev license.

brucelidat · 09-05-2013, 01:02 PM

I had CBE and HFCs installed and got an Uprev tune back in late 2011 if that clears anything up.

Chuck33079 · 09-05-2013, 01:06 PM

Maybe, maybe not. Did you get the license and cable, or just the tune?

brucelidat · 09-05-2013, 01:19 PM

I got a tune, but I thought that gives me a license. Since future retunes are half the price because I already paid for the license with the first tune.

Chuck33079 · 09-05-2013, 01:21 PM

I was under the impression that the license should include the cable. I could have it backwards, though.

brucelidat · 09-05-2013, 01:26 PM

I'll ask my tuner and also ask GTM if their turn key kit comes with a license

09-05-2013, 12:04 PM	#1 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 30	safe to drive SC untuned for 50 miles? So I am looking at my options for getting a supercharger kit installed in my Z. I have figured that I can save around 1k in labor costs having it installed at a tuner shop closeby. Will there be any problems with me driving the car, untuned with the SC kit for 40-50 miles to a Z specialist shop to tune? Also, hoe easy is it to swap out the pulleys for more boost in the future? I am considering getting a stage 2 but doing less boost because the 7AT is iffy with handling 500whp (plan to keep it more in the 440whp range). This would leave me the option of going higher in the future if I decide it's worth it to do the GTM valve body upgrade. Also any experience form guys with autos running boost and tranny reliability at your power levels would be helpful as well. __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

09-05-2013, 12:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	I wasn't aware that there was any sc kit on the market that didn't send you a base map. I would sooner drive a TT kit untuned than a sc kit, since the sc kit is always making at least a little boost. fuct, DEpointfive0 and MyKindaGuise like this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

09-05-2013, 12:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 30	Can a local shop that doesn't have uprev do the base tune? __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

09-05-2013, 12:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	The kit should come with the cable. You can load the map yourself if you DIY the install, so I can't imagine why they couldn't. DEpointfive0 likes this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

09-05-2013, 12:31 PM	#5 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 30	Oh, okay. I was under the impression that you needed uprev to do the tune since GTM asked me if I had an uprev license (which I do) when i was asking them about install costs. __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

09-05-2013, 12:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	If you've already got the license and cable, what's the question? Bring your laptop and load up the base map when you go pick up the car. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

09-05-2013, 12:40 PM	#7 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 30	I have the license from when I got my car tuned (though I'm not sure what my license is). I didn't know it was that easy. If it comes with a cable, then I guess it'll all be fine. Now the questions is do I go safe with stage 1, closer to the safe limit with stage 1.5, or future possible upgradeability with stage 2 and larger pulleys... __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

09-05-2013, 12:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	You're in CA, so you can't get decent gas and have to do all of that CARB bs. I'll defer to Sam on that one. DEpointfive0 likes this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

09-05-2013, 12:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
DEpointfive0 Premium Member Bitches Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,824 Drives: a lot Rep Power: 17151	I think you'll need to upgrade to Osiris? (I'm not a tuning terminology guru) __________________ Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from? ( Click to show/hide ) NSFW due to language:

09-05-2013, 12:45 PM	#10 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	I'm pretty sure that's what he means when he says he has an Uprev license. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

09-05-2013, 01:02 PM	#11 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 30	I had CBE and HFCs installed and got an Uprev tune back in late 2011 if that clears anything up. __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

09-05-2013, 01:06 PM	#12 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	Maybe, maybe not. Did you get the license and cable, or just the tune? __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

09-05-2013, 01:19 PM	#13 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 30	I got a tune, but I thought that gives me a license. Since future retunes are half the price because I already paid for the license with the first tune. __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

09-05-2013, 01:21 PM	#14 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	I was under the impression that the license should include the cable. I could have it backwards, though. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

09-05-2013, 01:26 PM	#15 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 30	I'll ask my tuner and also ask GTM if their turn key kit comes with a license __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

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