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agreed. the m62 and the m90 are horrible superchargers... i have the m62 on my balt and that bitch heat soaks like its cool. same for the m90 if you

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Old 09-26-2009, 04:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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agreed. the m62 and the m90 are horrible superchargers... i have the m62 on my balt and that bitch heat soaks like its cool. same for the m90 if you throw pullies on it
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common m62? m90? even the m90 is only used on a production car making what 265 flywheel? Would have to pulley the hell out of them to get the airflow we need and they would be just like trying to use 10 heat guns for your intake charge.
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common m62? m90? even the m90 is only used on a production car making what 265 flywheel? Would have to pulley the hell out of them to get the airflow we need and they would be just like trying to use 10 heat guns for your intake charge.
m90's are perfect for V6 engines such are ours. The m112 goes on V8 engines like the Lightning and Cobra.

Heat is held in check through intercoolers/heat exchangers..

You guys really need to stick to subjects you have experience on. Everyone knows the M62 on a 350z was not properly sized, but the m90 is a good choice.
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don't get me started on the m90. I do have experience with it including full custom kits and modified stock application cars. I that blower tops out at 400 without porting, and i don't think that stillen will be porting the ones it sells in the kit. Our v6 is in the flow range of larger engines and would do better with a larger blower.
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don't get me started on the m90. I do have experience with it including full custom kits and modified stock application cars. I that blower tops out at 400 without porting, and i don't think that stillen will be porting the ones it sells in the kit. Our v6 is in the flow range of larger engines and would do better with a larger blower.
Agreed.

I don't think you will see anything impressive with an M90, and even with an M112 you'll struggle to make similar power to GTM's modest TT setup. Figure the Terminator Cobra makes roughly 380 RWHP stock with an M112 at 8 PSI through a 4.6-liter DOHC 32-valve V8, and that blower on an engine pushing more air than the Z's runs out of steam approaching 500 RWHP.

I don't think any forced-induction setup on the 370Z will be worthwhile unless it will make at least 450 RWHP. Factor in the cost of parts/installation, supporting-mods, constant headache of what part will break next or tuning issues, powertrain warranty going out the door, etc...anything less, and you might as well stick with basic bolt-ons.

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Hey all, just got a new Z, coming from the Audi TT, and I love the power but now Im wanting even more. When I had my Audi TT I just wanted under 5 secs 0 60 so thats why I went to the Z but now I want even lower but not a TT setup so I think the SC will do me great. My questions is there is no room in the engine compartment so will we have to get a new hood to accomendate (?) the SC? I really like the lines on the stock hood.
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Z Steve,
A roots style will probably require some type of hood modification for clearance. STILLEN will most likey be using a roots sytle similar to what they used on the 350Z. That was an Eaton M62, hopefully they are using a new Eaton TVS style R1320 or an R1900 for the 370Z.

A centrifugal style won't require any hood modification. However, due to the dual side intake, a centrifugal style requires a little more hardware than you might think. GTM has a SC kit like this for the 370Z already. You may also want to check the thread about the Vortec SC as well.

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A roots style will probably require some type of hood modification for clearance. STILLEN will most likey be using a roots sytle similar to what they used on the 350Z. That was an Eaton M62, hopefully they are using a new Eaton TVS style R1320 or an R1900 for the 370Z.

A centrifugal style won't require any hood modification. However, due to the dual side intake, a centrifugal style requires a little more hardware than you might think. GTM has a SC kit like this for the 370Z already. You may also want to check the thread about the Vortec SC as well.

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I picked my car up from Vortech on Friday, (they had it for over a week doing R&D) looks like they abandoned the idea of going centrifugal due to lack of space under the hood. :-(
They did mention the possibility of a twin screw mount, since they build them for other platforms. Only issue is the hood will have to be changed or modified. I'll be in touch with them about dropping the car off for the twin screw if/when they decide to move forward on it.
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I picked my car up from Vortech on Friday, (they had it for over a week doing R&D) looks like they abandoned the idea of going centrifugal due to lack of space under the hood. :-(
They did mention the possibility of a twin screw mount, since they build them for other platforms. Only issue is the hood will have to be changed or modified. I'll be in touch with them about dropping the car off for the twin screw if/when they decide to move forward on it.
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I picked my car up from Vortech on Friday, (they had it for over a week doing R&D) looks like they abandoned the idea of going centrifugal due to lack of space under the hood. :-(
They did mention the possibility of a twin screw mount, since they build them for other platforms. Only issue is the hood will have to be changed or modified. I'll be in touch with them about dropping the car off for the twin screw if/when they decide to move forward on it.
Thanks for all the info, Minicobra. Does Vortech want to know if 370Z owners would be willing to get a different hood like with the Stillen 350Z supercharger? Perhaps another poll is in order.
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Just thought I'd jump in here and offer a little update.

I was walking through the shop last week and I saw an interesting site. The supercharger development car was running! The hood was closed! and I could see our engineers inside with their laptops! That's right folks, our supercharger is nearing completion! Shouldn't be much longer now!

Oh and for the record, we are working with a very reputable electronic tuning company to do all of our tuning directly through the ECU. No more piggyback? Could be!
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Just thought I'd jump in here and offer a little update.

I was walking through the shop last week and I saw an interesting site. The supercharger development car was running! The hood was closed! and I could see our engineers inside with their laptops! That's right folks, our supercharger is nearing completion! Shouldn't be much longer now!

Oh and for the record, we are working with a very reputable electronic tuning company to do all of our tuning directly through the ECU. No more piggyback? Could be!
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Thanks for the update. Hopefully more are on the way soon.
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Just thought I'd jump in here and offer a little update.

I was walking through the shop last week and I saw an interesting site. The supercharger development car was running! The hood was closed! and I could see our engineers inside with their laptops! That's right folks, our supercharger is nearing completion! Shouldn't be much longer now!

Oh and for the record, we are working with a very reputable electronic tuning company to do all of our tuning directly through the ECU. No more piggyback? Could be!
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Just thought I'd jump in here and offer a little update.

I was walking through the shop last week and I saw an interesting site. The supercharger development car was running! The hood was closed! and I could see our engineers inside with their laptops! That's right folks, our supercharger is nearing completion! Shouldn't be much longer now!

Oh and for the record, we are working with a very reputable electronic tuning company to do all of our tuning directly through the ECU. No more piggyback? Could be!
Stock hood closes AND no reliance on a piggyback? Hell, yeah!! Is this going to be shown at SEMA? Hope so!
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sounds good I will have to read up on the GTM one and if Stillen can keep the hood lines then that might be so bad. I really do like the hood and roof lines as they add character to the car.
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