GTM Performance Engineering: MHI Twin Turbo Official Release

Alstann · 12-16-2013, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmogirl

I have purchased over 20k in products from gtm back in the day when I had my 350z. It wasn't until I purchased my Stage II TT kit from that I learned that they were lacking in customer service. At the time I liked mike and sam very much but always seemed they were running around like chickens with theirs heads cut off and a simple phone conversation seemed rushed. After ordering my kit I was given a rough eta on a ship date in which was 2 months after that and having to threaten to cancel did I finally receive my kit. The driver side turbo was supposed to be clocked and I had to take apart the entire driver side to clock it into the right position. So I called gtm and spoke with mike and he swore up and down that no one had ever had any problems and it was only me. He also told me that my stillen exhaust would bolt up to their 3'' test pipes and they didn't, when I called again to let him know he just blew me off and suggested buying their 3'' exhaust. The point I am trying to make here is I once was a big gtm follower like spohn (no pun intended) but I soon learned they weren't all what they cracked up to be. Being warned from Trips I have stepped back and read this thread every day hoping something will happen one way or the other but it seems gtm is immune and the fact of the matter is I care about my fellow members here and just hate to see the way they have been treated. To me the question is, shouldn't paid sponsor's here be allowed to do this to members with no repercussions?? I feel for you guys and I hope this works out for you in a positive way..

I would say others should hold judgement until GTM has a chance to respond, and Trips/AK make contact and work out a amicable solution.

At the end of the day - this isn't about war between customers, forum members, companies, and admins - this is about resolving some issues, and making everyone happy.

MMC Racing · 12-16-2013, 09:46 PM

It seem some don't understand contract law. A contract must be completed in a reasonable amount of time even if no specific dates are in the contract. GTM can't hold the money "forever". If the restocking fee was challenged in court (not worth the time, just saying), the contract would be voided and a full refund would be ordered.

BlkNismo · 12-16-2013, 09:53 PM

All this talk about waiting for GTM to chime in before accusations. Its been 5 days since they have logged into the forums. You would imagine they would chime in multiple times a day since there using the forum as a primary way of selling a product. Yea.....you would imagine.

Alkatraz · 12-16-2013, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing

It seem some don't understand contract law. A contract must be completed in a reasonable amount of time even if no specific dates are in the contract. GTM can't hold the money "forever". If the restocking fee was challenged in court (not worth the time, just saying), the contract would be voided and a full refund would be ordered.

Correct.

What is the legal definition of "reasonable amount of time" though?
1 month? 6 months? 18 months?

You shouldn't state with such certainty that the contract would be voided and the restocking fee turned over in court. It's a very grey area.

MMC Racing · 12-16-2013, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Alkatraz

Correct.

What is the legal definition of "reasonable amount of time" though?
1 month? 6 months? 18 months?

You shouldn't state with such certainty that the contract would be voided and the restocking fee turned over in court. It's a very grey area.

There would be 1 of 2 conclusions. Either it would be thrown out or GTM would talk their way into a specific performance date, which would be just as good for most people who still want the kit.

*edit* - what would really happen is GTM would not show up to the small claims court date over $4xx.xx and there would be a default judgment.

Alkatraz · 12-16-2013, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing

There would be 1 of 2 conclusions. Either it would be thrown out or GTM would talk their way into a specific performance date, which would be just as good for most people who still want the kit.

*edit* - what would really happen is GTM would not show up to the small claims court date over $4xx.xx and there would be a default judgment.

And then good luck getting anything out of them once you have taken them to court! Once it becomes personal, there is never a win/win outcome.

Business is SO much easier when everybody just does the right thing and everyone stays civil. Unfortunately these days not many deals can be done with a handshake any more. Everyone takes things personally and the "screw them before they screw us" mentality takes over.

Edit: This is not in reference to the situation at hand, just a casual observation.

SS_Firehawk · 12-16-2013, 11:43 PM

FYI, I texted a message to Sam double checking that my car is G2G for me to pick up, he replied within 15 minutes. I charge $20 per minute if you want me to make inquiries on your behalf

Better yet, buy one of my computers

Alkatraz · 12-17-2013, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk

FYI, I texted a message to Sam double checking that my car is G2G for me to pick up, he replied within 15 minutes. I charge $20 per minute if you want me to make inquiries on your behalf

Better yet, buy one of my computers

I will be happy when I am the only person in Australia with a boosted Skyline 370GT. You can say that you are the only person in the WORLD with twin SC's! Lucky man!

G37sHKS · 12-17-2013, 12:12 AM

I called Sam and had all my answers I want in few seconds :P

SS_Firehawk · 12-17-2013, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Alkatraz

I will be happy when I am the only person in Australia with a boosted Skyline 370GT. You can say that you are the only person in the WORLD with twin SC's! Lucky man!

Lol, not quite. There is at least one other Z.

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Alkatraz · 12-17-2013, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk

Lol, not quite. There is at least one other Z.

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That's why I put Skyline 370GT not 370Z

There are already plenty of other boosted 370Z's in Aus. I would estimate that there are only 40-50 370GT's in Australia, if that!

mikey1600 · 12-17-2013, 01:37 AM

can't wait for the next update! read the last few pages, that escalated quickly.

on a side note, received my spark plugs, still waiting on boost controller.

DEpointfive0 · 12-17-2013, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk

Lol, not quite. There is at least one other Z.

I thought it was a G37

Alkatraz · 12-17-2013, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

I thought it was a G37

Not many G37's here. Infiniti only came back to Australia this year. Skyline 370GT's are all imported from Japan.

What plugs and boost controller are you going with Mickey?

DEpointfive0 · 12-17-2013, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Alkatraz

Not many G37's here. Infiniti only came back to Australia this year. Skyline 370GT's are all imported from Japan.

What plugs and boost controller are you going with Mickey?

I meant the other twin S/C car

12-16-2013, 09:46 PM	#2357 (permalink)
MMC Racing Track Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 661 Drives: 2015 GT-R Rep Power: 17	It seem some don't understand contract law. A contract must be completed in a reasonable amount of time even if no specific dates are in the contract. GTM can't hold the money "forever". If the restocking fee was challenged in court (not worth the time, just saying), the contract would be voided and a full refund would be ordered. COSMO likes this. __________________ 2014 F150 Raptor, 2014 Mazda 3, 2015 Nissan GT-R

12-16-2013, 09:53 PM	#2358 (permalink)
BlkNismo Track Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: USA Posts: 614 Drives: Nismo Rep Power: 15	All this talk about waiting for GTM to chime in before accusations. Its been 5 days since they have logged into the forums. You would imagine they would chime in multiple times a day since there using the forum as a primary way of selling a product. Yea.....you would imagine. elperuano likes this.

12-16-2013, 11:43 PM	#2362 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7335	FYI, I texted a message to Sam double checking that my car is G2G for me to pick up, he replied within 15 minutes. I charge $20 per minute if you want me to make inquiries on your behalf Better yet, buy one of my computers COSMO and Alkatraz like this. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

12-17-2013, 12:12 AM	#2364 (permalink)
G37sHKS A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Dubai Posts: 1,183 Drives: 09 G37S Coupe 7AT Rep Power: 21	I called Sam and had all my answers I want in few seconds :P __________________ G37 BUILD UNDER CONSTRUCTION

12-17-2013, 01:37 AM	#2367 (permalink)
mikey1600 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 503 Drives: MY11 370z Black Rep Power: 16	can't wait for the next update! read the last few pages, that escalated quickly. on a side note, received my spark plugs, still waiting on boost controller. DEpointfive0 likes this.

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