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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk These intercoolers are rated to meet the demands of the 20g turbos with a built motor. You must have some big plans. If that's the case,

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These intercoolers are rated to meet the demands of the 20g turbos with a built motor. You must have some big plans. If that's the case, why not just get the Garret based kit? Building the motor to support that kind of power really takes the cost difference out of the equation.
I wouldn't be able to afford the Garret kit right now and if everything can be switched out to the Garret kit, then it makes sense to do so if its cheaper. I could have fun with this kit with a stock block, and when I'm ready to build, go ahead and swap stuff out to make some big power.

Tower how in the hell does it cost $34k to build a motor lol. Please tell me if I'm wrong or something isn't right here... But my friend just built his VQ35HR for about $6k. Carillo rods, Carillo Pistons, Jwt cams, full valvetrain (not sure exactly what brand) ARP bolts, plus other little things and it literally came out to be $6K. The 35HR isn't that much different than the 37vhr. Say a motor build costs around $10k, paired with a $9k turbo kit that can handle 800rwhp... I'm good with that
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I wouldn't be able to afford the Garret kit right now and if everything can be switched out to the Garret kit, then it makes sense to do so if its cheaper. I could have fun with this kit with a stock block, and when I'm ready to build, go ahead and swap stuff out to make some big power.

Tower how in the hell does it cost $34k to build a motor lol. Please tell me if I'm wrong or something isn't right here... But my friend just built his VQ35HR for about $6k. Carillo rods, Carillo Pistons, Jwt cams, full valvetrain (not sure exactly what brand) ARP bolts, plus other little things and it literally came out to be $6K. The 35HR isn't that much different than the 37vhr. Say a motor build costs around $10k, paired with a $9k turbo kit that can handle 800rwhp... I'm good with that
I think he was referring to a hole package. Built motor, TT kit itself, and all the goodies that go with making a 800 HP car. Full out return fuel system, built heads, and if he went with a full stand alone ECU. That's easy territory.

Also I like the fact that this MHI kit with 18G turbos on a built motor will put down some serious numbers. I don't think you would have to upgrade to Garret turbos. Maybe just rebuild the ones you have while your there. You'd be more than happy enough.
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I think he was referring to a hole package. Built motor, TT kit itself, and all the goodies that go with making a 800 HP car. Full out return fuel system, built heads, and if he went with a full stand alone ECU. That's easy territory.

Also I like the fact that this MHI kit with 18G turbos on a built motor will put down some serious numbers. I don't think you would have to upgrade to Garret turbos. Maybe just rebuild the ones you have while your there. You'd be more than happy enough.
I thought he was talking about just a built motor. Of course it can be that much. It could even be more than that with all the higher end parts. I guess only time will tell what I end up doing
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I wouldn't be able to afford the Garret kit right now and if everything can be switched out to the Garret kit, then it makes sense to do so if its cheaper. I could have fun with this kit with a stock block, and when I'm ready to build, go ahead and swap stuff out to make some big power.

Tower how in the hell does it cost $34k to build a motor lol. Please tell me if I'm wrong or something isn't right here... But my friend just built his VQ35HR for about $6k. Carillo rods, Carillo Pistons, Jwt cams, full valvetrain (not sure exactly what brand) ARP bolts, plus other little things and it literally came out to be $6K. The 35HR isn't that much different than the 37vhr. Say a motor build costs around $10k, paired with a $9k turbo kit that can handle 800rwhp... I'm good with that
Stage 5 fuel system: $3400-----Have to feed the girl
New 4.2L with core : $15,400----was going to keep original engine as a back up.
Boost controller, race logic t/c..to control the hp, new clutch to handle the power, new exhaust, gauges etc.
You can't just thrown in a few parts and hop for the best with 800hp. You need to control it and make sure everything else will not explode the first time you get on it.
But hey good luck with your thought of you only need an engine build and larger turbo

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Stage 5 fuel system: $3400-----Have to feed the girl
New 4.2L with core : $15,400----was going to keep original engine as a back up.
Boost controller, race logic t/c..to control the hp, new clutch to handle the power, new exhaust, gauges etc.
You can't just thrown in a few parts and hop for the best with 800hp. You need to control it and make sure everything else will not explode the first time you get on it.
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Stage 5 fuel system: $3400-----Have to feed the girl
New 4.2L with core : $15,400----was going to keep original engine as a back up.
Boost controller, race logic t/c..to control the hp, new clutch to handle the power, new exhaust, gauges etc.
You can't just thrown in a few parts and hop for the best with 800hp. You need to control it and make sure everything else will not explode the first time you get on it.
But hey good luck with your thought of you only need an engine build and larger turbo
I'm aware of how to build a motor and what's needed. No need to throw out a face palm dude. You are wanting a stroker motor which is something I don't want. I already have gauges, you want the race logic t/c... Some of the stuff you want isn't needed and is just for shitz and giggles. They are nice to have but not necessarily needed. I'm not saying $10k is what it takes to get a fully built motor done, I'm just throwing out a ball park number. Also I save on labor and parts that I get at whole sale. With all that money spent on your wasted sts kit you could have a semi built motor and a TT setup with 650rwhp+
But hey who am I to judge how to spend how others go about spending their hard earned money
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I'm aware of how to build a motor and what's needed. No need to throw out a face palm dude. You are wanting a stroker motor which is something I don't want. I already have gauges, you want the race logic t/c... Some of the stuff you want isn't needed and is just for shitz and giggles. They are nice to have but not necessarily needed. I'm not saying $10k is what it takes to get a fully built motor done, I'm just throwing out a ball park number. Also I save on labor and parts that I get at whole sale. With all that money spent on your wasted sts kit you could have a semi built motor and a TT setup with 650rwhp+
But hey who am I to judge how to spend how others go about spending their hard earned money
Even with a stroker build, I couldn't imagine it being more than $10k for everything, including parts and labor. The motor itself, from Nissan, is quite expensive, however.
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Even with a stroker build, I couldn't imagine it being more than $10k for everything, including parts and labor. The motor itself, from Nissan, is quite expensive, however.
For my 350z it was going to be $8k I believe. It really isn't expensive to build a motor. Hell even a twin turbo kit can cost more than an engine build.
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Even with a stroker build, I couldn't imagine it being more than $10k for everything, including parts and labor. The motor itself, from Nissan, is quite expensive, however.
You need to imagine more!
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