GTM Performance Engineering: MHI Twin Turbo Official Release

Chuck33079 · 07-21-2013, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

I didn't apply that be was buying a GTM kit in any form or fashion. What I'm saying is that his deposit alone is the same as the complete cost of the GTM MHI kit. Basically the other kit is twice the cost of the GTM kit.

GTM's Garrett kit is also twice the (group buy) price of their MHI kit. It's not an apples to apples comparison.

faceglide · 07-22-2013, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

GTM's Garrett kit is also twice the (group buy) price of their MHI kit. It's not an apples to apples comparison.

Words of the wise.

DO the math, both kits have the value built in, both fill their roles VERY nicely. Lets just leave it at that.

I am very excited to see the MHI kit bring TT to the masses, about damned time.

I am very excited to see the FI kit try to take the Garett GTM kit head-on. The consumer is always the winner when parity is brought into the equation.

SPOHN · 07-22-2013, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

GTM's Garrett kit is also twice the (group buy) price of their MHI kit. It's not an apples to apples comparison.

Not exactly double. And though it might not be apple to apples. It's the point of being FI. For a stock block you can only put down so much making them all comparable. The 20G turbos are very much close to the Garrett's in the way they make power.

Infidel · 07-22-2013, 07:15 AM

Just re-evaluated my finances and after buying/paying for the MHI TT and some accessories (excluding oil cooler, radiator and gauges) I figured out that I won't have cash for the install till after the new year.

Looks like I bit off more than could chew for now. The wife is getting some certifications in her field soon so maybe I will be back on schedule if she can land a job...she might be making more than me soon.

Tell your kids to pay attention in high school.

Alstann · 07-22-2013, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Infidel

Just re-evaluated my finances and after buying/paying for the MHI TT and some accessories (excluding oil cooler, radiator and gauges) I figured out that I won't have cash for the install till after the new year.

Looks like I bit off more than could chew for now. The wife is getting some certifications in her field soon so maybe I will be back on schedule if she can land a job...she might be making more than me soon.

Tell your kids to pay attention in high school.

Don't give up! DIY all the way!

SS_Firehawk · 07-22-2013, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Alstann

Don't give up! DIY all the way!

There are a lot of FL guys who who would jump to help

Infidel · 07-22-2013, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Alstann

Don't give up! DIY all the way!

Ummmm....you don't know me very well. I have problems with balsa wood airplanes.

LOL

Seriously, I work about 110-125 hours every two weeks and after I get my sleep I might get three days off a pay period. In '05 I did a steroid cycle and I got huge, especially my hands and forearms from using strictly dumbells. Everybody at work jokes about the size of my hands. I'm screwed. My wife would have a better chance of installing it, she built a desk from pieces of wood that I thought was gonna be a train wreck but it turned out pretty damn good.

I'm gonna have to pay someone and that's the best decision I can make...believe me. The wait will suck but it'll be worth it. Maybe things will change if my wife gets a job.

Chuck33079 · 07-22-2013, 09:34 AM

Since you don't have to drill the oil pan or tap the head, a DIY is actually an option.

m3chhawk · 07-22-2013, 10:21 AM

When you are comparing this kit vs. a Garrett kit (either GTM or otherwise), the cost justification is in much more than the power levels.

SPOHN · 07-22-2013, 11:00 AM

The kit is easy to install per say. The manifold and the turbo might be tight but after that its a breeze. Sams instructions are pretty clear. It does require some thinking on your part for small things.

Chuck33079 · 07-22-2013, 11:03 AM

Do you have to mess with the steering column or put a spacer on the motor mount like the Garrett kit? If not, it seems pretty straightforward. You're going to need someone with small hands and a **** ton of extensions, but it should be doable.

SPOHN · 07-22-2013, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Do you have to mess with the steering column or put a spacer on the motor mount like the Garrett kit? If not, it seems pretty straightforward. You're going to need someone with small hands and a **** ton of extensions, but it should be doable.

No steering knuckle on this kit. It might have to be moved to get better clearance. But no spacer is added. No big deal either way.

Extensions and swivels are your best friend. Some people had to use crows feet on the Garrett kits. Hate those.

Also with GTM's new manifold not sure if you need a spacer on the steering knuckle.

Mike@GTM · 07-22-2013, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Do you have to mess with the steering column or put a spacer on the motor mount like the Garrett kit? If not, it seems pretty straightforward. You're going to need someone with small hands and a **** ton of extensions, but it should be doable.

No steering coupler required with this kit. One of our goals was to make this kit as DIY friendly as possible.

Chuck33079 · 07-22-2013, 11:32 AM

Wow. Sounds like they've gotten it to be a straight bolt-on affair with no major surgery. Very cool.

Chuck33079 · 07-22-2013, 11:43 AM

Very cool. This kit sounds like a fun project. The Garrett kit was pretty invasive, so there was no question that I'd farm the install out to a shop that had done several. This one I could handle.

07-22-2013, 09:34 AM	#8 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Since you don't have to drill the oil pan or tap the head, a DIY is actually an option. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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m3chhawk Track Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Kansas City Posts: 878 Drives: '11 370Z SPT 6MT BLK Rep Power: 25	When you are comparing this kit vs. a Garrett kit (either GTM or otherwise), the cost justification is in much more than the power levels. __________________ F.I. CF CBE \| Avant Garde M310 \| BC BR's \| ONEighty \| Status \| EvoR \| Stillen \| Whiteline \| B&M \| Bespoke Details Boosted Performance \| Precision Turbo \| Tial \| HKS \| Innovate Motorsports \| Bosch \| Treadstone \| Walbro \| UpRev \| Depo

07-22-2013, 11:00 AM	#10 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 46 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 222	The kit is easy to install per say. The manifold and the turbo might be tight but after that its a breeze. Sams instructions are pretty clear. It does require some thinking on your part for small things. __________________

07-22-2013, 11:03 AM	#11 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Do you have to mess with the steering column or put a spacer on the motor mount like the Garrett kit? If not, it seems pretty straightforward. You're going to need someone with small hands and a **** ton of extensions, but it should be doable. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

07-22-2013, 11:32 AM	#14 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Wow. Sounds like they've gotten it to be a straight bolt-on affair with no major surgery. Very cool. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

07-22-2013, 07:15 AM	#4 (permalink)
Infidel Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Central Florida Posts: 457 Drives: 2013 GM 6MT Rep Power: 15	Just re-evaluated my finances and after buying/paying for the MHI TT and some accessories (excluding oil cooler, radiator and gauges) I figured out that I won't have cash for the install till after the new year. Looks like I bit off more than could chew for now. The wife is getting some certifications in her field soon so maybe I will be back on schedule if she can land a job...she might be making more than me soon. Tell your kids to pay attention in high school.

07-22-2013, 11:43 AM	#15 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Very cool. This kit sounds like a fun project. The Garrett kit was pretty invasive, so there was no question that I'd farm the install out to a shop that had done several. This one I could handle. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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