In the future to all you guys n gals who backed out, dont bid on something that you have no patience to wait for.

Currently the project is over 6 months behind only accounting for the delays since they got the money, if memory serves it's close to a year behind if you take into account all of the delays and ignoring everything else going on with this.

When you're showing "Finished" dyno graphs of this kit running and tell people it will be shipping approx 1 month after they take your money it's a LITTLE hard to swallow waiting another 6 months and still not having anything concrete as far as ship dates go.

no disrespect but maybe you shouldn't have gave them your money until the kits were shipping if you were so worried about it...

Yes this is clearly the customer's fault.

Been waiting on my refund since 11/15.

I love when people come in here and post every 5 months like they know what everyone has been through with this.

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Lol needed the laugh. Thanks doom n nismo

Everyone is entitled to their opinion about this whole situation. On topic a little heres the "updated" list...

1. Neo187H- requested 1/22/14 has not recieved
2. Puckshaw- requested 11/15/13 still has not recieved

Heres to hoping that us making this very obvious that many people are less than pleased with the current state of things will cause them to step up their game a little bit.

Neo puck got his money back through the bank. Maybe you can do the same.

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When I get more time outside of work I'll try to go back through the massiveness that this thread has become and consolidate that info a little bit though if anyone can post up their findings in the meantime it would be great. I'll try to get it all into one post so we can keep track easier.

I still haven't and reason why I haven't exploted and blast GTM through the forum is because I rather speak to them directly, unfortunately I still haven't recieved my refund its been 3 months and I Totally Understand they're a big busy company but geez I'm tired of having the same conversation over the phone...

I would hope after three months you've gotten your bank involved.

You have incredible patience. You must be on a Zen level of patience or very well off financially to let that kinda money just sit there like that.

Three months? Crap I didn't realize people had it that badly.

Lol!!! What a douche bag!

Asked for refund yesterday and starts complaining that he hasn't received it yet when there are others who have been waiting for waaay longer!

This thread started less than a year ago so how the hell are they "close to 1 year behind".

I feel bad for everyone who has decided to pull out and is struggling to get their money back quickly but jesus, making things up doesn't help.

Please show me any of the other vendors on here who did not take at least six months longer than their initial release estimates to get their kits shipped! GTM's only issue is that they didn't communicate as well as the other vendors so people got nervous and pulled out.

I am literally at the point where I have no sympathy left for some of you guys. Anyone who has requested a refund and waited more than 2 weeks for their money, fair play, complain as much as you like. Everyone else either man up and wait or shut up and keep out of our thread!!! Once we are enjoying or TT cars, your moaning will only add to our enjoyment!

A post like that, and he's the douchebag? I'm sure they'll manage without your sympathy.

The thread started 3/19. That's 10 months. That's pretty close to a year. That doesn't qualify as "making things up". We understand you're a GTM apologist, but a reasonable person would not think that this group buy has been handled in an acceptable manner. We've got a company who misses their shipping date by almost six months, fails to issue requested refunds for up to three months and offers no communication whatsoever. That's a far cry from "GTM's only issue is that they didn't communicate as well as the other vendors so people got nervous and pulled out". You're one of the happy ones. That's great. That doesn't mean you should be belittling the ever-growing number of people who don't agree with you and have problems with the way this is playing out.