GTM Performance Engineering: MHI Twin Turbo Official Release

megalapagas · 10-14-2013, 03:14 PM

A lot of Fire Arising through this thread xD oh well for now I'm going to upgrade my N/A motor for shites and giigles

elperuano · 10-14-2013, 04:50 PM

I don't understand when everyone says "I waited a year but then it was worth it". It's like ur ok with getting screwed over and are finding ways to apologize for it?
Wish I could tell my Amex bill the same thing.

stop being ok with what isn't right.

Mkai0 · 10-14-2013, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano

I don't understand when everyone says "I waited a year but then it was worth it". It's like ur ok with getting screwed over and are finding ways to apologize for it?
Wish I could tell my Amex bill the same thing.

stop being ok with what isn't right.

Valid point man.

1slow370 · 10-14-2013, 05:13 PM

Point is ur not getting screwed over your expectations are to high its a group buy for a massive amount of complicated to produce kits there are bound to be delays. OMFG they are taking as long as FI and they are making 5x the quantity. NO ONE would be upset if they hadn't said when they probably honestly thought they would be done.

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1slow370 · 10-14-2013, 05:18 PM

Like i said **** happens dude, it's tough but get real. I blew my motor in 2010 and it took nissan 2 months to ship a short block to my dealer. After taking 2 months to tell my they would replace it.

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m3chhawk · 10-14-2013, 05:31 PM

I don't think it's the delays that are causing the tension, its the communication. The reason no one in the other threads is upset is because the vendor communicates with the masses.

Check out the pattern here. Everyone gets temperamental, GTM communicates, everyone is excited and forgiving. The problem is, GTM hasn't logged on to this forum in 11 days. Other vendors respond within hours at most.

If a vendor is hosting a group buy with a gross value well over half a million dollars, the least they could do is spend the 5 minutes required to update the customer. A very large portion of the customers would be content with the delays as long as they knew what was causing them and had some visibility to the process. I know multiple people personally that have backed out of this group buy and cited communication failures as the reason.

Alkatraz · 10-14-2013, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by m3chhawk

I don't think it's the delays that are causing the tension, its the communication. The reason no one in the other threads is upset is because the vendor communicates with the masses.

Check out the pattern here. Everyone gets temperamental, GTM communicates, everyone is excited and forgiving. The problem is, GTM hasn't logged on to this forum in 11 days. Other vendors respond within hours at most.

If a vendor is hosting a group buy with a gross value well over half a million dollars, the least they could do is spend the 5 minutes required to update the customer. A very large portion of the customers would be content with the delays as long as they knew what was causing them and had some visibility to the process. I know multiple people personally that have backed out of this group buy and cited communication failures as the reason.

This is basically what I wrote about 10 pages back. Anyone who was suprised when it was delayed massively is a little naive. Big project = Big potential delays.

The lack of communication whilst holding peoples money is the issue here really. I'm willing to wait as long as it takes but I truely hope that GTM learn a little about communication from this. When mistakes happen, its how they are dealt with that determines peoples final opinion of a business.

That said.........Gimme My Boost!!!!

Nixlimited · 10-15-2013, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by m3chhawk

I don't think it's the delays that are causing the tension, its the communication.

This is the nail on the head. I honestly just cannot get my head around what's going on here. Especially, knowing the sensitivity of the delays, getting on here and stating that you are going to post a finish schedule by such and such a date, and then blowing that schedule too. It does not inspire confidence. It is terrible PR. And it whips people up into a frenzy.

Chuck33079 · 10-15-2013, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Nixlimited

This is the nail on the head. I honestly just cannot get my head around what's going on here. Especially, knowing the sensitivity of the delays, getting on here and stating that you are going to post a finish schedule by such and such a date, and then blowing that schedule too. It does not inspire confidence. It is terrible PR. And it whips people up into a frenzy.

It's even worse that the guy who gave them a test car isn't getting updates.

1slow370 · 10-14-2013, 05:31 PM

That was a little harsh on my part dont mean to offend anyone its my opinion and you certainly dont even have to read it.

I would say i hope GTM doesn't run into any more delays and they can ship on time with their new schedule as i am sure they are also upset things haven't gone to plan.

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SPOHN · 10-14-2013, 05:36 PM

I wish some of you stop acting as everyone should feel or have the same emotions as your selves. Everyone takes things in different strides.

Mr. Q · 10-15-2013, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

I wish some of you stop acting as everyone should feel or have the same emotions as your selves. Everyone takes things in different strides.

I agree, I paid for my kit in full with a personal check shortly after they started accepting money for the kit. I could be on here fussing and moaning or I can be patient.

faceglide · 10-14-2013, 05:50 PM

In all due respect, what did you expect?

You have dyno numbers, with no proof of such a vehicle ever running. There are no miles on this kit, nothing. Nothing running, nothing being tested. I was scared off this kit, because I did NOT want to be a test mule when paying for a finished kit. I don't pay for promises, it shouldn't work that way.

F.I. did not make their kit available UNTIL they had an operating prototype, this prototype is running flawlessly, has been and now has mileage behind it.

You guys keep ******* around with phone calls and "private" information, yet there's nothing out there.

I am patiently waiting on my FI kit because a)worth it and b)it exists! I get updates that are available to ALL buyers and not used to push their product.

Best of luck to you guys tho, I hope it all works out.

SPOHN · 10-14-2013, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by faceglide

In all due respect, what did you expect?

You have dyno numbers, with no proof of such a vehicle ever running. There are no miles on this kit, nothing. Nothing running, nothing being tested. I was scared off this kit, because I did NOT want to be a test mule when paying for a finished kit. I don't pay for promises, it shouldn't work that way.

F.I. did not make their kit available UNTIL they had an operating prototype, this prototype is running flawlessly, has been and now has mileage behind it.

You guys keep ******* around with phone calls and "private" information, yet there's nothing out there.

I am patiently waiting on my FI kit because a)worth it and b)it exists! I get updates that are available to ALL buyers and not used to push their product.

Best of luck to you guys tho, I hope it all works out.

You act as if FI is rocket science. GTM has been pushing the envelope for many years. No testing needs to be done. That's not the issue. Your argument is very invalid. Your not involved so get the hell out. But I'm sure you'll come back some other off the wall passage that you think will justify your actions. People don't know how to keep there mouth shut and have to get that last word in. I'm sure you'll think its funny. I assure you it will be lame and everyone will be laughing at you. Now go justify spending 10K+ on a FI kit that will make the same numbers as this kit on a stock block. Lol.

1slow370 · 10-14-2013, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

You act as if FI is rocket science. GTM has been pushing the envelope for many years. No testing needs to be done. That's not the issue. Your argument is very invalid. Your not involved so get the hell out. But I'm sure you'll come back some other off the wall passage that you think will justify your actions. People don't know how to keep there mouth shut and have to get that last word in. I'm sure you'll think its funny. I assure you it will be lame and everyone will be laughing at you. Now go justify spending 10K on a FI kit that will make the same numbers as this kit on a stock block. Lol.

Damn truth right there.

10-14-2013, 03:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
megalapagas Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: McAllen,TX Posts: 457 Drives: '10 370Z Tour A/T Rep Power: 12	A lot of Fire Arising through this thread xD oh well for now I'm going to upgrade my N/A motor for shites and giigles __________________ GTM 34 Row Oil Cooler \| K&N Drop Ins w/ Z1's Post MAF Tubes \| F.I Non-Res'd 2.5" T.P w/ CF CBE \| Axis Wheels \| Piecing together My Own Custom T4 Top Mount Single Turbo Kit Still in the works \|

10-14-2013, 05:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	Point is ur not getting screwed over your expectations are to high its a group buy for a massive amount of complicated to produce kits there are bound to be delays. OMFG they are taking as long as FI and they are making 5x the quantity. NO ONE would be upset if they hadn't said when they probably honestly thought they would be done. Sent from my HTCONE using Tapatalk now Free __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

10-14-2013, 05:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	Like i said ** happens dude, it's tough but get real. I blew my motor in 2010 and it took nissan 2 months to ship a short block to my dealer. After taking 2 months to tell my they would replace it. Sent from my HTCONE using Tapatalk now Free __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST** Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

10-14-2013, 05:31 PM	#6 (permalink)
m3chhawk Track Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Kansas City Posts: 878 Drives: '11 370Z SPT 6MT BLK Rep Power: 25	I don't think it's the delays that are causing the tension, its the communication. The reason no one in the other threads is upset is because the vendor communicates with the masses. Check out the pattern here. Everyone gets temperamental, GTM communicates, everyone is excited and forgiving. The problem is, GTM hasn't logged on to this forum in 11 days. Other vendors respond within hours at most. If a vendor is hosting a group buy with a gross value well over half a million dollars, the least they could do is spend the 5 minutes required to update the customer. A very large portion of the customers would be content with the delays as long as they knew what was causing them and had some visibility to the process. I know multiple people personally that have backed out of this group buy and cited communication failures as the reason. __________________ F.I. CF CBE \| Avant Garde M310 \| BC BR's \| ONEighty \| Status \| EvoR \| Stillen \| Whiteline \| B&M \| Bespoke Details Boosted Performance \| Precision Turbo \| Tial \| HKS \| Innovate Motorsports \| Bosch \| Treadstone \| Walbro \| UpRev \| Depo

10-14-2013, 05:31 PM	#10 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	That was a little harsh on my part dont mean to offend anyone its my opinion and you certainly dont even have to read it. I would say i hope GTM doesn't run into any more delays and they can ship on time with their new schedule as i am sure they are also upset things haven't gone to plan. Sent from my HTCONE using Tapatalk now Free __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50 Last edited by 1slow370; 10-14-2013 at 05:38 PM.

10-14-2013, 04:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
elperuano A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Southwest FL Posts: 1,374 Drives: G37S Rep Power: 29	I don't understand when everyone says "I waited a year but then it was worth it". It's like ur ok with getting screwed over and are finding ways to apologize for it? Wish I could tell my Amex bill the same thing. stop being ok with what isn't right.

10-14-2013, 05:36 PM	#11 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 46 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 222	I wish some of you stop acting as everyone should feel or have the same emotions as your selves. Everyone takes things in different strides. __________________ Last edited by SPOHN; 10-14-2013 at 05:42 PM.

10-14-2013, 05:50 PM	#13 (permalink)
faceglide Track Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: san jose Posts: 550 Drives: '12 370Z FI TT BkChr Rep Power: 38	In all due respect, what did you expect? You have dyno numbers, with no proof of such a vehicle ever running. There are no miles on this kit, nothing. Nothing running, nothing being tested. I was scared off this kit, because I did NOT want to be a test mule when paying for a finished kit. I don't pay for promises, it shouldn't work that way. F.I. did not make their kit available UNTIL they had an operating prototype, this prototype is running flawlessly, has been and now has mileage behind it. You guys keep ******* around with phone calls and "private" information, yet there's nothing out there. I am patiently waiting on my FI kit because a)worth it and b)it exists! I get updates that are available to ALL buyers and not used to push their product. Best of luck to you guys tho, I hope it all works out.

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