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MyKindaGuise

The biggest factor would be the tune not being stable. I imagine these two blown motors are not local? Local fuels can be quite different and effect a tune especially with E85. Also climate and sea level can as well. We also cannot be sure what boost they were actually running at the time...EBC's make it really easy for people to push too much. I wouldn't say that it is an issue with the kit. More or less the tune or user would be the more likely problem.

There are a lot of 500+ people here...

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theDreamer

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Yep, just a quick look I see 8 minimum over 500HP.

Also, SRPerformance, check your PMs. I want to finish the forced induction noob thread & want to make sure your info is accurate.

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MyKindaGuise

Because if it isn't in that thread it doesn't exist Seriously there a lot of people on here who don't post but every once in a while that probably aren't even in that thread.

I know 2 people running that local that aren't even on here and I am sure there are more through the US.

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elperuano

That is what I was thinki. S&R did the tune and perhaps thats the problem. As u can tell there's plenty of people pushing 500. This motor is stout and should hold much longer than these 2 kits did.
Just trying to make the community aware.
There's too many boosted cars out there to attribute to "bad" gas although it could be its highly unlikely.
Either tune/kit something might be off. Not trying to put S&R down jus tryin to maybe get u to look over something again.

MyKindaGuise

Yeah I am thinking it is the tune as well. Only reason I brought up gas is...atleast this is the case around me the E85 blends change depending on the time of year. So when your running a tight tune it can cause issues. I agree though there is certainly an odd trend developing around this kit. Hopefully VSR can comment soon.

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Mr.Squeeze

I will like to add that at 12 psi on these cars is pushing the limits of the stock block, this is from personal experience of a friend's car. The car had a stage 1 GTM the day before it died it maid 550whp on a dynojet. The car was driven hard for 13k miles and holds the mph trap speed record of 127 mph. I also know of 2 GTM kit's in the area one blew up and the other was caught just in time. Both of these cars have built motor's in them now, basically what I am trying to say is you just cant blame a kit things happen.


Like someone else pointed out in this thread double the power of the stock block.

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elperuano

Yes I know the potential of what can happen. Never know when it can happen. Now there's plenty of variables that come into play. Gtm is a proven kit that's been in VQ motor for years. There's faaaar more Gtm kits out there than SR kits. If I'm not mistaken I think I only heard of 3-5 MAX that have this single turbo kit? I think the number is far less. So this kit is fairly new. With 2 blown already. Doesn't look good. The response from the owner doesn't look good as well.

The last one to blow was not runnin high HP number. See where I'm goin?

Lastly. U said the one G that blew had numerous track and driven hard 13k miles. I'd be happy gettin 13k the way I drive. Valpozguy had no track days if I'm correct and only some spirited driving.

Just seems suspect on the out looking in. That turbo does look real close to the piping. Just wanted to bring to the owners attention maybe he can look into something that might be an issue or the tune might be off. The way he responded says a lot. I hope the fellow member goin that route with his built motor has better luck

Mr.Squeeze

It was a 370z nismo that blew up and lasted for 13k car did 11.7@127 and is on my youtube channel.There is also another nismo owner that only lasted a few months that blew up. Now when I say blew up I mean rod out the side of the block. Then you have Sharbycoop who has the G 37 that caught his motor just in time before it shot a Rod out the side.

Now I don't want you to think I am defending S&R kit,hell I don't even like design of it.
I am just trying to shed some light on the fact that these motor's can blow up.

Also you cant count a dropped a valve as part of this hell I can drop one in my built motor I am still using a stock head.

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SRperformance

Lets get a couple things straight.

The G37 is a local build and that guy dropped a valve THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TUNE.
We have tuned well into the hundreds of Z's & G's and not have any blown up.

The truth is and i didn't want to throw any one under the bus. I installed a manual boost controller on his car. He raised the boost level after he left our chop at Z1.The tuner at Z1 even verified that the car was in great condition. Besides his engine blew up a year later. Again tunes do not change However mechanical can change. The customer also stated right before it blew it was running bad some hesitation and he decided to punch it. So there is no way this our fault

The G37 had a new engine installed by Infinti under warranty (don't Ask) and the tune is still on the car AND the car driven daily and beaten at the track. This car makes on 100 octane 658hp

We have done over a dozens of single turbo & Twins. If there was a issue the car it would have not made 14hr road trip back home beating it all way up north.

Like how everyone speculates or diagnosed the problem since no one has seen the car.

elperuano

Can u blame anyone? Ur original response was vague in clearing anything up.
Where was this reply the other day when people asked? Smh

SRperformance

Here is a video of the pull.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v...type=2&theater

SharpByCoop

I truly think S&R builds a responsive and responsible kit. Obviously the sky's the limit on how much power you wish to produce. He just allowed that they got 658hp out of a stock block with 100 octane.

Now that's on the edge, and the same person made 647hp before his valves came raining out of the stock block. (I know who he is and he's very selective about what info he lets on about on the forums or otherwise. Claims all is well from the first build. Says he hasn't gotten to the track yet. (He's gunning for me.) I was told privately otherwise. Some people don't show all their cards.)

Mr. Squeeze is right on: Mine detonated @ 590whp and bent all the rods. Fortunately that's ALL that happened. Whew. (New tuner = safer tune = less HP =quicker ET. Go figure.) I have rods, pistons, studs, balanced, etc. now. Built and with more room to go.

My point is, it's out of control of the shop what the limits are if the boost is available to change. It's like giving my ten-year-old the cookie jar and informing him to eat only one every hour. Ummmmmm.....

That said, the dyno is easier on the engine than the strip or highway. Tread water carefully above 550.

Good luck with this kit. It looks well made and in the right hands will last forever.

Coop

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1_Stealth_Z

whats the cost of a complete install and tune?? Pm me the details please