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Mr.Squeeze 04-15-2013 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by G37sHKS (Post 2261839)
Hmm,

Looking at these housing side by side is really tempting...

Will give Mike a call tonight for more details thanks for sharing :tup:


Yes they are I can't wait to get my hands on these .

DIGItonium 04-15-2013 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 2268069)
Yes they are I can wait to get my hands on these .

You, sir, are patient. :icon17:

Mr.Squeeze 04-15-2013 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 2268149)
You, sir, are patient. :icon17:

Lol that was a typo just edited it.

Speedy 06-06-2013 04:06 PM

Track results?

GarageLine.com 06-06-2013 04:56 PM

Any reason why the higher boost runs were only to 6500 instead of 7500+ rpm?

I am guessing they were stopped because of the exhaust restriction.

Mr.Squeeze 06-06-2013 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GarageLine.com (Post 2351410)
Any reason why the higher boost runs were only to 6500 instead of 7500+ rpm?

I am guessing they were stopped because of the exhaust restriction.

The high boost pull was stopped because some knock was heard we has reached the limit on 93 pump gas.



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Originally Posted by Speedy (Post 2351331)
Track results?

The car is down right now putting in OS Giken triple Disc Clutch Direct port Meth injection ,and catch cans. While I am doing that for the rest of this month I hope that the new manifolds come out and I can make the switch.

Speedy 06-07-2013 10:03 AM

With that much power that thing should be a very low 10 second car if you can get it to hook up.

GaleForce 06-22-2013 08:15 AM

Came back to :drool:

Any updates?

Mr.Squeeze 06-22-2013 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2374566)
Came back to :drool:

Any updates?


Car is down right now I blew out my ZSpeed CSC getting a new one and a
OS Giken triple Disc clutch. I figured I would need the triple Disc because once I get the new manifolds and housing's from GTM I would be really pushing my southbend clutch at that point.

I am also waiting on ECUteck to at least have map switching before I make the switch.

G37sHKS 06-22-2013 11:26 AM

What about the catch can? where did you mount it?

Mr.Squeeze 06-24-2013 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by G37sHKS (Post 2374697)
What about the catch can? where did you mount it?

I currently don't have one on my car, I ordered two from Saikou Michi custom catch cans at the end of May and I am still waiting on them.

Ron 08-24-2013 10:45 AM

Just wondering why you went with a stock head gasket instead of something like Cosworth? It's not the first time I've seen it done and my shop actually said it would be better to go with stock. Thoughts?

phunk 08-24-2013 03:51 PM

Too bad HKS doesn't make a VHR head gasket... Those are the best gaskets.

Mr.Squeeze 08-24-2013 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 2459569)
Just wondering why you went with a stock head gasket instead of something like Cosworth? It's not the first time I've seen it done and my shop actually said it would be better to go with stock. Thoughts?

You hit it right on the nose my machinist recommended it to me , also from research I have notice people using it .


So far so good with the stock head gasket 17k miles .

G37sHKS 08-25-2013 01:49 AM

Stock head gasket is strong enough to use one on new build paired with ARP head studs combo it will be as good as you want it to.

Mkai0 08-25-2013 09:31 AM

On more than one occasion, engine builders have recommend the stock head gaskets for HR/VHR turbo builds. I will be using these on my upcoming build as well.

Ron 08-25-2013 02:43 PM

Excellent, thanks guys.

elperuano 01-16-2014 10:07 PM

Any updates on the beast?

Mr.Squeeze 01-16-2014 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2655160)
Any updates on the beast?


The beast is in hibernation in my garage for the North East Winter upgrades coming in the spring time.

esfourteen 01-19-2014 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 2655217)
The beast is in hibernation in my garage for the North East Winter upgrades coming in the spring time.

patiently waiting :driving:

ANMVQ 01-22-2014 01:06 PM

Cant wait to see what you do next

NeoNz 04-15-2014 03:47 PM

Great build! Any reason you are going with the single? Slower spool up isn't a concern? Curious on the daily drivability of your setup. Thanks

jwick 04-15-2014 03:57 PM

The pond he plays in has a huge power level entry point. One turbo > than two when it comes to efficiency.

NeoNz 04-15-2014 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 2782571)
The pond he plays in has a huge power level entry point. One turbo > than two when it comes to efficiency.

of course, always worry about compressor efficency ranges, but if you overlay his dyno to some of the single builds out there, no comparison <4000 rpm. I'm looking at boost levels below 20 psi, which isn't exactly pushing the limits for some of these turbos, i could see in the 20+ psi range you would want to go single, but he has far more torque at the same boost level. with c16 there is no reason bigger turbos can't run >700rwhp, nobody here has dynoed with real race fuel to this point.

Mr.Squeeze 04-15-2014 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NeoNz (Post 2782562)
Great build! Any reason you are going with the single? Slower spool up isn't a concern? Curious on the daily drivability of your setup. Thanks

The reason I am switching is for peak performance I want more power.The GTM kit with log style manifold .64 A/R housing was just not cutting it anymore. I am not concerned with slower spool with the twin scroll 6766 setup. I waited a year for GTM V2 manifold's and was going to switch to GTX3076r turbo's with it just got tired of waiting. There is not a single 370z with that setup yet.

To sum it all up I am willing to give up some low in spool for top end power. I use the car for highway pulls and roll racing. Also daily driveability was not a problem with my old setup.

O&G 04-15-2014 09:00 PM

built motor will love the single setup and the peak boost compared w/ a twin setup will be minimal!

Rid3_FaM0uS 04-15-2014 09:08 PM

I have definitely considered this same idea for the very same reasons squeeze.^ I have yet to release anything to the community on my recent happenings but needless to say ill be looking for more power and I too find that most of my enjoyment in the car is highway pulls or straight line enjoyment toying with my brothers mkIV etc. I originally got this stage 2 kit with the intentions of autoX and track only to find out there's really not much here in Ohio for anything of the sort; watching your journal closely I think I may decide to sell mine in the near future as well and speak with Sasha about something along the lines of a big single with that HTA wheel and alpha housing much like F.I. Is offering for their kit except one big single rather. I dunno. Ill keep following your journal and see how it pans out but i too am just ready to find out what kind of straight line power this VHR can bring to the table and no one has really done anything impressive this route to speak of.

jwick 04-15-2014 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NeoNz (Post 2782739)
of course, always worry about compressor efficency ranges, but if you overlay his dyno to some of the single builds out there, no comparison <4000 rpm. I'm looking at boost levels below 20 psi, which isn't exactly pushing the limits for some of these turbos, i could see in the 20+ psi range you would want to go single, but he has far more torque at the same boost level. with c16 there is no reason bigger turbos can't run >700rwhp, nobody here has dynoed with real race fuel to this point.

Just watch O&Gs build and see what a single can do. A single is always going to make more tq than twins. You moght give up early spool, and its just a few hundred rpms, but that's about it.

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O&G 04-15-2014 09:37 PM

I'll have fresh numbers next week Wednesday on pump gas near 18+ psi w/ timing and vvel tuning before we go E85. Back to Mr. squeezes badass build & thread! WTQ>WHP. After all he was one of the first w/ a built motor pushing the limits!

elperuano 04-15-2014 09:56 PM

I'm right behind ya Squeeze.
I'm all roll racing and highway runs. Just not enough traction for digs. Peak performance is much better for me as well. Can't wait to see what kinda numbers you put down. With the new revised version and built block, the bar will be raised yet again.

RoyaltyB 04-15-2014 10:15 PM

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NeoNxz 04-15-2014 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 2782948)
The reason I am switching is for peak performance I want more power.The GTM kit with log style manifold .64 A/R housing was just not cutting it anymore. I am not concerned with slower spool with the twin scroll 6766 setup. I waited a year for GTM V2 manifold's and was going to switch to GTX3076r turbo's with it just got tired of waiting. There is not a single 370z with that setup yet.

To sum it all up I am willing to give up some low in spool for top end power. I use the car for highway pulls and roll racing. Also daily driveability was not a problem with my old setup.

Nice! If that's the case I should sell you my supra ;) haha jk. Good luck with your new setup! the 6766 should be just fine, if i'm not mistaken minimally 700rwhp at 18-19 psi. what size hot side?

jwick 04-15-2014 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by O&G (Post 2783048)
I'll have fresh numbers next week Wednesday on pump gas near 18+ psi w/ timing and vvel tuning before we go E85. Back to Mr. squeezes badass build & thread! WTQ>WHP. After all he was one of the first w/ a built motor pushing the limits!

You still owe me that ride homie

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Mr.Squeeze 04-15-2014 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NeoNxz (Post 2783097)
Nice! If that's the case I should sell you my supra ;) haha jk. Good luck with your new setup! the 6766 should be just fine, if i'm not mistaken minimally 700rwhp at 18-19 psi. what size hot side?


I am going with 1.32 A/R you are correct with 700whp the goal is to make that on pump gas 93 and go up from there.

NeoNz 04-17-2014 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 2783162)
I am going with 1.32 A/R you are correct with 700whp the goal is to make that on pump gas 93 and go up from there.

Sweet! Do you attend meets around the tri state area? Would love to pick your brain one day. Did you consider a sleeved block? Run E85 or c16 often?

O&G 04-17-2014 09:19 PM

Cooling a sleeved block can be a challenge on these motors...especially since they run hot already. Depending on what your going to use the car for depends on sleeving or not. E85 is a winner on these motors with FI.

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Plasmite 04-17-2014 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by O&G (Post 2785237)
Cooling a sleeved block can be a challenge on these motors...especially since they run hot already. Depending on what your going to use the car for depends on sleeving or not. E85 is a winner on these motors with FI.

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I am having difficulties understanding the pros/cons of E85 and regular gasoline.

Does E85 cause less cavitation?

elperuano 04-17-2014 09:59 PM

E85 more stable fuel and allows for more aggressive tuning. It's like magic. Plus it's way cheap compared to regular pump gas.

Cons are its not easily available as pump gas. Only certain stations carry them and it depends where you live. Need biiiiiiggeerrr injectors and bigger fuel pump. Also it eats up gas suuuper fast. But I think it's worth it. Just wish I had it more readily available.

tturbo370z 04-17-2014 10:29 PM

I Agree with El and everything he said above. Another bonus and part of the magic is that it burns 200 degrees colder than 91 or "regular" pump gas.

I had to subscribe to your thread bro to keep an eye on your new build, so I too can want more power :rofl2:

Mr.Squeeze 04-17-2014 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NeoNz (Post 2785210)
Sweet! Do you attend meets around the tri state area? Would love to pick your brain one day. Did you consider a sleeved block? Run E85 or c16 often?


Yes I do attend meets and wouldn't mind meeting up. When I build my motor I did not consider a sleeved block for my goals at the time. I have never ran E85 in my car and dont run C16 .I have however ran 100 octane pump gas on occasion this is local to me.


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