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ANMVQ 08-18-2012 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tomnavone (Post 1874414)
Seems like a lot of work to get power out of the stillen kit
Are u still wondering why I returned it.?.

No, still not that much work, Just about every one upgrades and wants more, I made the advertised #'s not on their tune of course. Still wanting to do something someone else hasnt done it a little nice ,NO?

weiboy718 08-18-2012 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 1876236)
No, still not that much work, Just about every one upgrades and wants more, I made the advertised #'s not on their tune of course. Still wanting to do something someone else hasnt done it a little nice ,NO?

It's nice but it's also a risk you are taking. Everyone is sitting back and wishing you the best of luck on your build right now.

Mr.Squeeze 08-18-2012 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 1876236)
No, still not that much work, Just about every one upgrades and wants more, I made the advertised #'s not on their tune of course. Still wanting to do something someone else hasnt done it a little nice ,NO?


Your talking all the steps you just have to be careful the bigger intake is really going to help. Just make sure you get a IAT sensor so you can have a way of monitoring your temp.

Boosted Performance 08-19-2012 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by EVOHUNTER (Post 1875460)
Yah, this kit is a head ache, I just bought some stuff today for cooling. Picked up a bosch ewp115 water pump - 115 litres pre minute! the stock is 15 litres per minute, bought a 26x9x4 heat exchanger, changing all the lines from 5/8" to 1-1/4".
im just looking for a good reservior now, need one almost double the size, in aluminuim.
any ideas where i can find one?

Should bring that by one day and we get rid of the water/air cooler. Then to a proper air/air intercooler with the OEM TB's/plenum.

Nissan370 08-20-2012 05:34 AM

That's what I was thinking just run the pipping from the blower to fmic then to tb I would even keep the air to water cooler in place can't hurt maybe .5psi or so boost lost

Mr.Squeeze 08-20-2012 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1877047)
Should bring that by one day and we get rid of the water/air cooler. Then to a proper air/air intercooler with the OEM TB's/plenum.

:tup: I vote for this EVOHUNTER your close to boosted performance. Let him switch that kit to air to air with the Maf's in there correct location. I am willing to bet that you could make 500whp with out a problem .

ANMVQ 08-20-2012 07:57 AM

He is already working on having the MAF's moved, Not sure who he is working with but I most likly will be doing the same as we have been talking about this, Thanx again EVOHUNTER,

EVOHUNTER 08-20-2012 08:42 AM

[QUOTE=ANMVQ;1876234]Funny man we are traveling the same path, I have the heat exchanger already, An looked for a upgraded reservoir also but NO ROOM, an not a fan on putting the battery in the trunk. I did a lot of reading on the SVT forums but not all those guy which to a bigger one so I'll stay with the Stillen one and add some Redline stuff.. I did also leave the lines at 5/8 too.

Sorry for the question but he WP is that the WP for the car or the SC fluid, I'm still under warranty.

The upgraded res,You will have to look at the mustang guys site, SVT, and Cobra sites( Vendors). I found a few][/QUOTE
This pump will be for supercharger system, the one thats in there is very weak.

EVOHUNTER 08-20-2012 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1877047)
Should bring that by one day and we get rid of the water/air cooler. Then to a proper air/air intercooler with the OEM TB's/plenum.

lets do it! i know your a very busy man sasha, but let me know when ur free.
We could also work out a trade or something. Any of your vehicles need new tires!? tires for labour ahaha :ughdance:
winters coming up, a nice set of x-ices or blizzack dmv1's lol

Also, i know you have alot on your plate but.. if would could figure out a air/air kit.
im sure about 90% of stillen kit owners would purchase this kit.

ANMVQ 08-20-2012 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1877047)
Should bring that by one day and we get rid of the water/air cooler. Then to a proper air/air intercooler with the OEM TB's/plenum.

Why dont I have a place like this around me :(. But couldnt he stay with the Stillen intake mani?

Mr.Squeeze 08-20-2012 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 1877739)
Why dont I have a place like this around me :(. But couldnt he stay with the Stillen intake mani?

The best thing would be to get rid of it that's only if you have someone capable of doing the work. Sasha is more than capable of doing this Air To Air with a blow through set up the way the kit should have been designed from the beginning.

ANMVQ 08-20-2012 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 1877899)
The best thing would be to get rid of it that's only if you have someone capable of doing the work. Sasha is more than capable of doing this Air To Air with a blow through set up the way the kit should have been designed from the beginning.

Getting rid of it is :/ in my book. The intake runner design is still better than the stock design no? Just have some thing customed to fit, Again still looking to be different than everyone else, :icon14:

Mr.Squeeze 08-20-2012 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 1877933)
Getting rid of it is :/ in my book. The intake runner design is still better than the stock design no? Just have some thing customed to fit, Again still looking to be different than everyone else, :icon14:



Nothing about the Stillen kit is better than stock.

You cant read IAT's because the maf's are in the fron bumper so the computer has no idea if the car is running hot or not. The Stillen air to water run's hotter than a air to air set up would.

Now I give you some credit for copying/continuing my old set up glad I was able to help you out. I really hope it works out for you trust me I really do.

EVOHUNTER 08-20-2012 12:17 PM

Im gonna talk to sasha and see what we need to do. I dont think itll be much money, the labour is what is gona cost me. but really all u need a front mount intercooler, and the piping - and of coarse some art work on the welding. ill need a different blow of valve i think aswell.

Neo187H 08-20-2012 08:50 PM

Fitting an air to air IC and the piping will take some magic, def interested to see how that turns out.

ANMVQ 08-21-2012 07:46 AM

Well I now have to change my APT from the 27th( Monday) to the following Sat,, I will have two people out at work and will not be able to take the day off from work, :( . . .

EVOHUNTER 08-21-2012 03:25 PM

I dont have sashas number, his private messages are disabled.
When i talk to him ill let u guys know.

JMac88 08-21-2012 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by EVOHUNTER (Post 1879986)
I dont have sashas number, his private messages are disabled.
When i talk to him ill let u guys know.

I'll give him your number :tup:

Boosted Performance 08-21-2012 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by EVOHUNTER (Post 1879986)
I dont have sashas number, his private messages are disabled.
When i talk to him ill let u guys know.

Whaaaat? I will check this out....looks like my sponsorship is paid up to date..hmmm.

WILD370Z 08-31-2012 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 1857427)
Ok so thought I would start a new thread, Because not broke down any more but turned into a bulid thread, So here goes, I am trying to see if I can see close to 500WHP with the Stillen SC . Mod list is below. Thanx for all the help in the broke down thread, :)

Super Charger Upgrade SCI to SI

34 Tooth Count Jackshaft Pulley

30 Tooth/35mm Supercharger Pulley

Gates belt Part numbe 560 8M GT20 for the cog pulleys

idler assembly from a 03-05 350z bracket

Bosh EV14 Injectors 850CC

UPREV MAF's

NGK plugs DILKAR8A8

WAT001026 Frozen boost.com Heat exchanger

Upgraded Intel pipe 2.75 made by ???

Turbosmart TS-0203-1022 Kompact 25 mm Dual Port Universal Fit Blow Off Valve

Hey i was interested in the Super Charger Upgrade SCI to SI what are the advantages and has the whining noise of your supercharger increase since installing the kit. im not sure when it was but the noise around 3500 rpm and up is so loud

WILD370Z 09-01-2012 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 1871523)
Agreed with Sam on this, Again the GTM kit or Stillen kit should pass the inspecting Sniffer test as long and as long as you have you cats you should be fine( ALL THO there was a goofy thread here that said it you have tune you would FAIL).. GTM's kits are proven OTB to make high 4'-500WHP, An again I almost went this way but the "Dealer offered my Factory warranty stay- if they installed it and I used Stillen's kit- The dealer is a Vendor for them). Yes I have this in Writing- But to stay on topic, GTM and Sam's kit's are proven 500WHP kits, Mine will be a UM lets see. But this something I did to be differnt and really wanted the Factory warranty,- Especially casue I have a 2011 and when this started it was under 9k miles.

But if I had the choice , I proably would have went GTM- But the had no X kit whem I went FI also.. :(

Sorry but my car is in the shop getting the automatic rebuilt were do the maf's sit at the moment and were is the suggested spot that they need to go i have to install my bov soon and was thinking about getting it all done then

airikrankin 09-01-2012 09:17 AM

could you use a universal IAT, tap the intake mani after the cooler, cut the wires for the iat in the maf and run the wires to the new sensor and tune?

GM Open Element IAT Sensor with 6" Pigtail : Amazon.com : Automotive

ANMVQ 09-01-2012 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by WILD370Z (Post 1896555)
Hey i was interested in the Super Charger Upgrade SCI to SI what are the advantages and has the whining noise of your supercharger increase since installing the kit. im not sure when it was but the noise around 3500 rpm and up is so loud

The upgrade will make more boost 2 PSI and will start to make boost earlier, double the PSI down low, EX if at 3k you would see 3 PSI you'll see 5-6 PSI,

WILD370Z 09-02-2012 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 1897328)
The upgrade will make more boost 2 PSI and will start to make boost earlier, double the PSI down low, EX if at 3k you would see 3 PSI you'll see 5-6 PSI,

that sounds awsome i think i would be interseted in that for sure definetly needs more power down low. just need to get the fuel starvation sorted out i notice my car does not pull as hard below half tank im thinkin about a fuel pressure regulator

ANMVQ 09-03-2012 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by WILD370Z (Post 1899082)
that sounds awsome i think i would be interseted in that for sure definetly needs more power down low. just need to get the fuel starvation sorted out i notice my car does not pull as hard below half tank im thinkin about a fuel pressure regulator

thats weird cause I notice no difference in mine, An the MAF's, Sorry should sit right behind the front grill on the Stillen intake tube,:tiphat:

WILD370Z 09-03-2012 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 1899681)
thats weird cause I notice no difference in mine, An the MAF's, Sorry should sit right behind the front grill on the Stillen intake tube,:tiphat:

Maybe its the 370z tank design. has anyone moved the mafs yet to prove it is better? i was also told by the guys that deal with vortech in Australia and they said its best to convert the supercharger to a T trim i just need more boost down low so would love to get your feed back when you get the car back on the road

Nissan370 09-04-2012 06:11 AM

i will be upgrading to the t-trim blower if i can find a way to move the maf after the blower and find a way to increase the cooling affect of the intake intercooler as of right now i cant see how that thing is doing anything in the way of cooling the intake air it gets way to hot
the fmic on my mustang never got that hot and i could even touch the intake after a good run but this intake on the 370z i can cook an egg on it no way its cooling the intake air more the a few degrees at best
even with a good tune we found that on hot days the car was pulling timing

a larger tank to hold coolant and moving it to the trunk should help and a larger heat exchange going to try that first .

then look into making some kind of pipe or box to hold the mafs in after the blower

i would love to get this thing working great but i kinda think this kit was made as a one shot deal any atemp to increase the power on this kit almost means fail

ANMVQ 09-04-2012 08:11 AM

I wouldnt move the MAF's. Just some things I have been talking to different people on, Lets just say that "maybe" the issues some of the other kits out there going boom,. I was told I should leave the MAF's where there are, If you need to read intake temp get a seperate sensor for that, The T trim is waste unless your going to build the motor, I was reading the T trim isnt in its range to after 15 PSI,. That much on a stock block = no car. ?

The heat issue I hope is solved with the MUCH bigger heat exchanger, We'll see when I get the car back,

EVOHUNTER 09-04-2012 08:49 AM

We are going to try to move a MAF's, Get rid of the stillen intake and run a stock plenuim, Air to Air.. it cant hurt to try. I just havent had time to stop at sasha's shop.
I was suppose to meet up with them last monday, i had 2 weddings, so that didnt work out.
Ill keep you guys posted, the intake tube turned out perfect that i had fabed.
but the intake tube is useless, im going Air to Air. Well see how it goes.
^ your right, the t-trim is way out of our league.

ANMVQ 09-04-2012 08:52 AM

Hey thanx EVO, Keep us posted, I know we spoke about this also, Just intrested in seeing how the MAF's would read boosted air? Thanx man, Yea tell me about I having no time WHO does, LOL

Nissan370 09-04-2012 09:03 AM

i have a build motor so it may be an option for me :happydance:

ANMVQ 09-04-2012 09:38 AM

built, GO FOR IT ! :)

WILD370Z 09-05-2012 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 1900702)
built, GO FOR IT ! :)

I Guess were all doing trial and errors hopefully not to many errors
once my auto is built i will get the

1 step colder plugs
turbo smart kompact 25mm plumb back bov
2.80 hi traction pulley
and re tune

would love to get it done soon so i can take it to the drags its spring in Australia and it is starting to warm up
need to beat my personal best 12.3 114mph

Nissan370 09-05-2012 06:02 AM

does anyone know the size of the stock pulley or the 9lb pulley we can get with the kit i was going to get the smallest pulley i can to see what the boost and slippage looked like

before going with the cog set-up i mean if slippage is minimal i may not need to change over to the cog set-up but i do want atleast 14-15psi up top

EVOHUNTER 09-05-2012 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Nissan370 (Post 1902144)
does anyone know the size of the stock pulley or the 9lb pulley we can get with the kit i was going to get the smallest pulley i can to see what the boost and slippage looked like

before going with the cog set-up i mean if slippage is minimal i may not need to change over to the cog set-up but i do want atleast 14-15psi up top

I have a intake tube 4sale, custom made, y bend off the supercharger, the 2 pipes stack on top of eachother and flatin out towards the 2 throttle bodys, its made of titanium, looking for 500.. thats what the steal/labour costed me.
oh yah its unpainted right now, it looks super nice with welds and and the different colours from the weld.. Pm me your number, ill text u some photos if ur interested.
also i have 2 turbosmart bypass valves 25mm, still in box. looking for 145 each, i think i paid over 250 each.

WILD370Z 09-06-2012 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Nissan370 (Post 1902144)
does anyone know the size of the stock pulley or the 9lb pulley we can get with the kit i was going to get the smallest pulley i can to see what the boost and slippage looked like

before going with the cog set-up i mean if slippage is minimal i may not need to change over to the cog set-up but i do want atleast 14-15psi up top

I think the standard pulley is 3.12 and the 9 lb pulley is 2.75 i am going for a 2.8 hi traction pulley which i asked vortech and said it is just sand blasted finish i have a 2.95 in there at the moment and im seeing 9lb up top so i will be happy with 10lp up top with the new pulley

Nissan370 09-06-2012 07:33 AM

i got the 9lb pulley from stillen and i am seeing 10.5psi @7400 rpms
just wanted to know that pulley size since i cant get an answer from stillen

ANMVQ 09-06-2012 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Nissan370 (Post 1903968)
i got the 9lb pulley from stillen and i am seeing 10.5psi @7400 rpms
just wanted to know that pulley size since i cant get an answer from stillen

not supprised you cant get an answer from them.. LOL they did not want to tell me anything when I started this either, But that sounds about right on your PSI, I was seeing 9 sometimes 10 up top on the 8PSI pulley. When all said and done I hope to see 13 :tiphat:

Osiris 09-06-2012 09:28 AM

just for reference, i have the Stillen 9lb pulley & the cogged pulley setup and i'm getting 11.7psi.

ANMVQ 09-06-2012 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Osiris (Post 1904125)
just for reference, i have the Stillen 9lb pulley & the cogged pulley setup and i'm getting 11.7psi.

Yea you have TP's tho. Less PSI, Still nice 3 PSI more is good, I'll see more than that becasue I upgraded the SC also :) I have stock cats. What is your WHP?


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