My maf's should be fine, because im going air to air.. injectors... hhmm..
i forgot about those.. theres another 500 bucks lol, Anmvq, what CC and brand did u go with? Im going to sasha's at 9 am, sunday morning. Really looking forward to this, aswell as your numbers anmvq.

Yea I was told if you move the MAF"s back you should be ok too, The injectors I got are the Boch EV14's 850 CC's

Looking forward to your mod with the Stillen setup. I do like the idea of air to air intercooler on stock IM with Stillen s/c.
ANMVQ, hopefully good results buddy.

Maybe with the cogs +2 PSI you are ok? The impeller should be another 2 PSI and boost comes in sooner in the RPM band and more PSI then also, I was reading over on the Cobra forums, Guys were seeing double the boost at 3k, " Say they where seeing 3 PSI @3k after the did the impeller they woud see 6PSI at the same 3k"

Thanx man, I hope so too. :)


If he gets very good results on the Air-Air might be something I look at over the winter, I may Stay with the Stillen Intake tho.

You probably didn't have a problem because your still on the stock impeller that comes with the blower . It flows less CFM that the SI upgrade from vortech and 928 impeller . What are your numbers I would love to see a graph .Also are you using the same cog combo I used ?

yes same cogs, 391whp/308tq on a very conservative mustang dyno.

What where you numbers before the cogs? :tiphat:

I can get you the Bosch EV14's. I stock 550cc injectors, and can get the 750cc, 850cc and 1150cc injectors rather quick.

i had my car on the same dyno over a year ago and made 370whp, but that was also when i had a boost leak.

Done and done.
Im thinking of droping in some rods, bearing and pistons, head studs aswell.
Can i do this without removing my block? I love my honda for that, rebuild a b16a in a day lol.

Nice man! In for results,

I sure they can, The pistons and rods Should be able to be done by dropping the oil pan( Old Chevy guy). THe heads not sure about the clearence but I used to do them on my DSM's .. Yes a know 4 Cyl lots of room. LOL

So a + 21 WHP with the cogs, how bad was boost leak, What do you think you picked up on the cogs alone?

No, not at all. Short block assembly has to be balanced, and bearing clearances are critical with these engines.

opps I guess I huge difference, Thanx for the info,

You are correct the Maf's won't be a problem with a larger air to air set up . I might have missed but do you have cog pulleys ?

that's really hard to say. Put it this way, i was only making 8.3psi on the 9lb pulley pre-cogged. After fixing the leak and installing the cogged pulleys, i'm now making 11.7psi.

ya that was i was looking for 3.12 is the stock pulley size

bah the wife is on my back asking me can i just work with the kit i have lol and not drop another 7-8k on my car since i just spent 17k in one year doing the blower and build motor :owned:

well looks like the twin turbo will be on hold man being married means so many compromisses o well

so whats the options around fmic and putting the stock intake manifold back will that work can the pipping fit for that ?

i was thinking of the impeller swipe but thinking more alone the t-trim option since the motor is build

for the cog set-up is that a one shot thing i did not see to many cog pulley sizes over at vortech . so would it be best to just get the smallest cog set-up and be done with it?

i believe the injectors i am using are the 650cc i will have to chk on that as i did get the tuner kit from stillen

i do have water-meth on my setup so i will be able to get a litte more agressive with the timing that should help a little on the hp side

As far as front mount intercooler there is no option right now . Now if Sasha does evohunter's car with a front mount and offers that to people looking for a air to air that would be cool .

Now as far as the cog pulleys you can't just put the smallest one in there .
You need a 30 teeth supercharger pulley 35 mm wide one a 34 jack shaft pulley
then 560 8m gr 20 cog belt . Then call vortech and get the idler pulley that keeps the cog belt from moving.

I am confident that it can be done. I think the 2.5" piping can be run in front of the wheel well liner on each side, then step up to 2.75" for the MAF sensors. This way they (MAF sensors) will be able to flow about 600hp (like the turbo kits). The FMIC feed pipe would go across the engine bay through the passenger side intake. I would use the same FMIC that was used on the twin scroll build:

TRTT9 Intercooler Twin Turbo Intercooler- TREADSTONE PERFORMANCE

That FMIC would allow for any supercharger upgrade as it will flow a lot of air, and do a fantastic job of cooling it as well.

Great work Sasha. I will be watching that thing go along with a lot of interest,

Since the engine is built, you would be a great candidate for testing the limits of the new setup. I can ship out a 340lph fuel pump with a set of large injectors if needed. The swap would take about a day as everything from my end would be bolt-on (as usual). Just a thought I guess.

I will know a lot more on Sunday when I see the kit in person.

Will be looking for info on Sunday. I have 850CC's no so injectors are good :)

if trying to run a fmic will the stock intake manifold need to be reused or can the stillen intake be keep in place. hmmm

i have a few ideas i am going to look into this since i am stuck with this kit for a least another year

you can keep the Stillen SC, I know EVOhunter had Sasah build him a custom pipe for after the SC( He's selling it BTW) This would be the route I go if I go FMIC. I have ZERO clue where all the hardware is for my stock intake mani.. LOL .

BTW EVOhunter said he got GOOD results just switch it that pipe, Myabe he or Sasha can toss up some pics :)

I had this made from a metal fab shop, Sasha never built it for me.
But the only problem with the pipe - It reads temperture from before the throttle body, Not after the intercooler inside the manifold, So in theory this still didnt solve my problem haha, waist of money lol..... but the 2 pipes flowed alot more air.

Opps sorry to you both, :tiphat:,

No problem bud!
So, any news on you tune/dyno time?

just got off the phone with them, :( NOPE Dealer never fixed the car, Just swapepd the SC in and out, Never address nor made sure that was the only issue, They got the car on the dyno and the car would not run, SUPER LEAN and no boost also the SC is making a hell of a racket( Bearing nosie) Wonder if they even checked it at the dealer to make sure they was fluid in it. It 's Sputtering and doing the same thing it was doing before I brought it to the dealer.. NO the car will no be going back to them. The place that has it now will diaq and fix the issue, I am SUPER PO'd right now.

Jezzzzz. Sorry to hear this

Good luck buddy

Why wouldn't the car run when you said they rev'd the car up pretty good on the lift? Obviously there was no issue then ..don't you think that issue would have happened when they "rev'd" it on the lift .....so how can you blame the dealer for that ? Your quick to point a finger

Easy, Cause there issue was only in drive, I could get car to REV, before I took it to the dealer, the issue was in D and stepping on the gas. I'm Sure the did not put it gear with the car is the air and rev it.. The issue from day one was IT would build ZERO boost and sputter under accel anything above
3k or there about. Remember I have a AUTO and the ECU will not let you rev to red line or SMASH the gas in park. Will only open like half way so timing and fuel MAPS would be completly different,

OH and BTW the dealer "New this thing was running lean" So they knew there was an issue other than the "posiable" SC and they did not check anything else? Boost leak, Bad fuel pump, Relay something eles, Just assumed the SC was the only issue.

All I'm saying is if you know there is an issue, you make sure before a car leaves your shop or place of business you make sure that its not doing it anymore NO?

The supecharger was blown due to water no? And you also said the dealer had an issue with the cog pulleys no? So the car wouldn't run for them anyway

The car would run for them, They where worried about the belt coming off But really they could have driving it in the lot. Yes the SC had water in it and was an issue, But did that cause the issue with the "lean issue on the car"? If so then fine, But why is it doing the same thing with a "NEW" SC, and no matter what he does with the tune the car will not run?

Again all I'm saying is if you know the issue HOW DOES it leave with the same issue, BTW I paid a but load of $$ at the dealer and the car Still doesnt run.

Two issues no? Sc had water in it, and a "lean issue" if the SC was not the LEAN issue what was. So know I have to pay someone else to fix the car???
I know you are "new" on here but I went Stillen becasue the dealer offered me a Full Factory warranty if bought and installed through them.

How much you paid isn't any of my business ...maybe the dealer thought the issue why it was running lean was because of the supercharger ....I'm just saying I don't know all the facts just reading what you write on here

Ok I know what I paid is NOYB, Thats cool,

But here is a question I will ask again,

You get a car with a Lean issue and a blown SC, Do you just have the SC rebuilt put it on the car and never test it again for the lean issue? Then call the customer to come pick the car up and have it still not drive for the "lean issue" and expect them to be happy about it. An if they where not confident in fixing the issue tell the customer up front, and I would have had it taking to the place it is now and have them do all the work. You do know when more than once place touches the same thing it can casue issues?

An you do not have to know all the facts cause its not your car, But you "maybe " should think about asking more questions before you make "Pointing Finger" statements. Oviously I know more than I put on here( Do not have hours at end to write everything down second by second), Sorry

OK tough guy .....did they check fuel pressure? (Oh look I asked a question)

Maybe you should call the dealer and ask,, Cause I did and then said it was fine, But um its not or there is another issue, THANX.

BTW if yuu have nothing helpful , Dont post, You know like the OH so helpful post you have in the other thread I was in.

Remember the "Please do!!! " And that tread tunred to crap, I want to keep this on track as there are a few guys helping my along the way and want to see what this thing does, When fixed, Thanx man

Have a sense of humor guy .....good luck to yah. Oh and dont blame that thread going to crap on me ..no one acknowledged my post