***Blackonorange's STS Turbo Build!! - Done by Speedtech Saskatoon***

Chinook

Thx the tank holds about 5 liters

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09 Touring/Nav 6MT Carbon Silver STS Turbo

blackonorange

Are you gOnna tune it for meth or just use it for safety ?

Chinook

Probably as a safet, but I was gonna talk to the tuner beforehand to see what he recommends, mark at Sts suggested tuning it without and then using it as a safety.

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09 Touring/Nav 6MT Carbon Silver STS Turbo

blackonorange

K guys so slight hiccup , my car idles high and fluctuates down to 500 rpm but then goes back up to like 1100 or so, my vacuum is also low at idle, this screams vac leak I know any places where I should look first ?

esfourteen

whats your vacuum at?

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tower74

It's an exhaust leak....I know had the same issue. Check the clamps on the piping. When I had it up on the lift ,running, I could fill the air flowing out. My vacuum pressure went from 20 to around 11. Then the other side started leaking and the boost went from 9 to around 6. You can only tighten those so much before they have to be replaced.

blackonorange

Like 12 at idle and my bovs don't work while boosting it just all goes out the turbo

esfourteen

A leak for sure, I pull 20 at idle. Your best bet is to do a boost leak test but if you don't have the equipment you need to inspect manually.

Check all the couplers/tbolt clamps, vacuum lines to/from BOV and wastegate, check lines on the intake manifold.

Also I know people have trouble getting a good seal on the intake manifold, spray some carb cleaner around the base of the intake manifold/runners (I know this is difficult to do with our car). If your idle jumps its a leak.

I cleaned my manifold gasket really well and used some spray on RTV to coat the gasket, then I torqued it down in order as per FSM to factory spec, 8 ft/lb, use a torque wrench!

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blackonorange

Thanks guys !!

blackonorange

Well we couldn't find the leak, and now the engine idles at 1100 ish and I got the code lean bank 2 afr stays at 15 ish and vac is at 12 at idle I also can only boost to about 4 psi

blackonorange

And on top of that the bov don't open and the compressor surges eveytime

hindi1973

having the same problem in my customers sts 370z , we tried everything to make it boost again we even made a direct hose form the turbo to the wastegate so it can give the maximum psi of the turbo and it gave 3psi , no leaks , we made a smoke test , their was a history of a bad pcv valve which made oil come out from the exhaust ,went all the way to the intercooler,maf sensors, piping etc etc , fixed that and cleaned everything and still doesnt build boost , check engine comes back on and idle at 1100 , spoke for ben STS went step by step with a confrence call with my mechanic and it looks like the 3 port solenoid is messed up since we made a and its suppose to make a ticking noise and its not , this is the last solution if not then its a bad turbo which went bad after 1000 miles or so , although their is no smoke,shaft play or anything , so lets see what happens after changing the 3port solenoid . wish you the best .

p.s all of this took place after loads of exhaust leaks that happened and fixed them then changed tha bad place of the boost controller which was under the back bumper . since then problem after problem has been happening .

blackonorange

What's the 3 port solenoid ?

hindi1973

we tried all kind of ways to make the turbo build boost to the maximum by making a direct hose from wastegate to the turbo , this way should give us the maximum psi possiable of the turbo , but it also didnt , we closed the exhaust side of the wastegate to see if vents air we said it might be a bad wastegate spring but its closed and no air , the solenoid am talking about is the pcv swith
we applied 12v to the post on the PCV switch and listened for a click , their was nothing , the hose that was in the intake we pulled out and everytime we go on boost it spills alot of air/oil out side like crazy which means the crank case is getting filled with boost insted of the turbo ,

The PCV switch is grounded when the body is bolted down (Normally open)and then a 12v signal is applied when 1psi of boost is applied (switch closes) then it vents to the atmoshere through some small filter on top of the switch

i guess this is our problem , if its not then i dont know wht is the problem other than the turbo it self . i am waiting on STS BECAUSE we changed both pcv but didnt change the switch , and hoping they can send us the switch , it looks like it has 3 ports or something similar

we are not in california and i am really intersted in deleting this pcv switch thingy once and for all , i know its against some states in usa such as california , all info is appreciated in getting this switch or deleting it completely .

thanks

Boosted Performance

^^^If you connected the wastegate to the compressor, and the boost gauge to the IM, you will not see max boost pressure. You need to connect the lower half of the wastegate direct to the IM to see max boost pressure.


Where did yo guys get the BOV vacuum source and wastegate boost source?

If the wastegate source is right at the turbo compressor, then you will not make wastegate spring pressure for boost. This is due to pressure drop across the entire system, in this case a lot of piping. So there maybe 8psi at the compressor outlet, but only 4-5psi (or less) at the IM. The wastegate should be hooked up as close to the TB as possible.

BOV must go to the IM as it uses vacuum to open. However, if the manifold vacuum is up in the -12 in/hg, then the wastegate will not open. The spring inside it (assuming it is a Tial type BOV) is rated for vacuum, and it will not open unless the set vacuum for that spring is reached.






So with the VQ, vacuum should be in the -19 to -20in/Hg (at idle fully warmed up) and the -10psi spring is optimal. It will never open if the lowest vacuum you see is -12in/Hg.

There must be vacuum leaks present, and it would explain the high idle. Exhaust leaks will not alter the a/f ratios unless they are pre O2 sensor. In this case if the OEM sensors are used on the headers, it should not make a difference.