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Rally 12-04-2011 11:11 PM

What Does It Take To Support F.I?
 
Hey everybody, I just got my gismo (Apple Spellcheck:mad: )and I want to put a GTM TT in it.
But I have a few questions, the biggest and by far most important is just what other mods will I need to add to the car to support the TT?
Second question is a lot off topic but what are the best (And reasonably priced) coil overs?
3. What are the differences in the GTM TT stages? Like the 500hp vs 1000hp one? Are those the numbers on what the kit is capable of? Or are they the HP you will get with it? Sorry I'm not very knowledgable in car/engines.:p
4. This will prove how dumb I am when it comes too cars. So if I get a g3 stillen intake, and then install the TT kit the next week. Will the g3 intake still be of use? I guess what I am asking is does the turn key TT kit come with an intake?
5. (Warning: Another beginner question) If I get the Fast Intentions exhaust do I still need to buy a high flow cat? Or is that included in the F.I exhaust? Sorry for all the questions but if someone can just answer one or two of them and another person answers 1 or 2 it would be great! Thanks everyone, and I appreciate all the help and will give rep! :tiphat:

Brazilbro 12-04-2011 11:47 PM

1. Search the forums
2. Call sam at GTM. stage 1 and 2 make high 500 hp without engine mods. For more u need a built block
3. G3 intake no worky with tt. TT has its own
4. FI exhaust is cb= Cat Back. so yes u got to buy HFC's
5. re-read step 1.

:welcome::merrychristmas:

B.A.Q 12-05-2011 06:15 AM

clutch, CSC, oil cooler and back up $$$ :P

VQStryker 12-05-2011 08:19 AM

clutch (may as well get a LW flywheel)
CSC
oil cooler
boost controller
oil pressure, oil temp, afr, fuel pressure gauges
oil pan spacer

superchargedg 12-05-2011 08:00 PM

You have a lot of reading to do

weiboy718 12-05-2011 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brazilbro (Post 1435963)
1. Search the forums
2. Call sam at GTM. stage 1 and 2 make high 500 hp without engine mods. For more u need a built block
3. G3 intake no worky with tt. TT has its own
4. FI exhaust is cb= Cat Back. so yes u got to buy HFC's
5. re-read step 1.

:welcome::merrychristmas:

off topic! i see you have a Evo 10 now. how is it? I'm thinking about selling my G for that pretty soon!

Brazilbro 12-06-2011 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by weiboy718 (Post 1437286)
off topic! i see you have a Evo 10 now. how is it? I'm thinking about selling my G for that pretty soon!

Great for me, I can drive it in any weather and flooring it mid corner and letting it grip itself out is an awesome feeling. Evo's are really only good if you want to stay under 500WHP. 450 is about the safe spot. Then you got to build the block and the active diffs start to get overpowered on the track.
I plan to stick with this car until to move to the GT-R , hopefully in the spring/summer. AWD+big power = :yum:

awkwardturtle 12-06-2011 09:25 AM

I'm going to give you some advice that you should really listen to for your own good.

If you don't know that a turbo setup replaces the intakes on your car, DO NOT TURBO YOUR CAR.

You seriously have a lot of ish to learn. No offense, but you clearly have little to no insight on how a turbo setup works, and you're asking for a lot of headaches if you jump into this before doing the proper research.

I spent 2 years reading and learning about turbos before I did it to my car, and I'm glad I did. If you just jump into it clueless, you're going to face a lot of really rough crap.

Sibze 12-06-2011 09:31 AM

Also, if you haven't spent two years reading and learning about Engines, make sure your car doesn't have an engine. We are still waiting for some type of job or career were people can actually work on that engine. I plan on calling those people "mechanics".

Ya, I thought of that on my own.






If you want to get a turbo get a turbo but make sure you have a shop you trust to work on it... Do you think everyone who buys a GTR knows what a Turbo is? Hell, I bet some of them don't have a clue why we need to change oil..

Red__Zed 12-06-2011 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by awkwardturtle (Post 1437874)
I'm going to give you some advice that you should really listen to for your own good.

If you don't know that a turbo setup replaces the intakes on your car, DO NOT TURBO YOUR CAR.

You seriously have a lot of ish to learn. No offense, but you clearly have little to no insight on how a turbo setup works, and you're asking for a lot of headaches if you jump into this before doing the proper research.

I spent 2 years reading and learning about turbos before I did it to my car, and I'm glad I did. If you just jump into it clueless, you're going to face a lot of really rough crap.

I actually agree with this. Unless you have a good grasp of how the setup works, you'll be in for a nightmare, or you'll be paying for a shop to fix all the little issues, which will cost a fortune.

It is especially important to understand how a car works as a whole--the need for proper tires, diff, and a dyno tune all wrap into that.

KaienZ34 12-06-2011 10:21 AM

http://www.the370z.com/forced-induct...ed-builds.html

Search is your friend... :tiphat:

Q8y_drifter 01-09-2012 10:14 PM

read read read read read

roplusbee 01-10-2012 11:27 AM

I figured this thread was going to be a minefield when I looked at the title. I think you guys were considerabley nicer than normal here.........good job!

How Stuff Works DOT Com has a good walkthru on turbo systems and how they function.........

Alchemy 01-10-2012 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by roplusbee (Post 1483892)
I figured this thread was going to be a minefield when I looked at the title. I think you guys were considerabley nicer than normal here.........good job......


:iagree: :roflpuke2:

tower74 01-10-2012 09:12 PM

Trust what these guys are saying. I took a crash course in FI and paying for it now. Even tho my problems are minor and can be fixed with some ajustments to the tune.
Let's put it this way....I bought the system in June of 2011. It took until August to get the system (had already handed over $10,000 before one thing had been done). Never dealt with the shop, hell never even heard of them.
I had left them my car for 6 weeks to install the system while I was out of town working. Got back in town and not one thing had been done except my dust level had increased on my car.:mad:
It took them another 2 weeks to install the system because I was calling every single day. I dropped almost $12,000 on the system without doing major research, big mistake on my part.:shakes head:
Don't get me wrong I love the system but being the first AT7 STS turbo wasn't worth all the headaches. I now have to spend more money to buy a remote oil filter because the intake pipe is blocking it...joy.
I know a lot more from reading all the complaints and knowledge from the members on this forum. Most guys will answer your questions with little bs or sh*t talking because you want to learn. These guys are more than willing to share the info and glad to help you out.
Read, read, read.....but most all research.

TerribleONE 01-10-2012 09:26 PM

Interesting to hear that ^ sorry for your troubles... Hope you get everything worked out

theDreamer 01-11-2012 10:09 AM

Quote:

What Does It Take To Support F.I?
Money

VQStryker 01-11-2012 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1485376)
Money

that probably the best reply in this thread

tower74 01-11-2012 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 1484770)
Interesting to hear that ^ sorry for your troubles... Hope you get everything worked out

No big deal really other than the warm start issues, otherwise it runs great.
I'm planning on ripping out the system and putting the car back to stock. Got my eyes on either a 2010 Nismo or a 2010 40th. Now just gotta hope the guys that installed my turbo still have my stock parts. The AT7 doesn't have a big market for upgrades so going back to manual. My left leg is tired of having nothing to do.

Red__Zed 01-11-2012 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1485376)
Money

Truth

Nitrouz 01-12-2012 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1485376)
Money

I saw the title, clicked in to reply the exact same thing you did.

DIGItonium 01-12-2012 08:17 AM

I made sure to take my car to a shop that has done numerous installs, which is 10 hr away. A couple of techs at my local dealership are gearheads, and are enthusiasts as well.

BTW, I still get questions from people asking if I upgraded the turbos on my car O_o

Footloose301 01-12-2012 08:52 AM

^well did you?:stirthepot:

Sharif@Forged 01-12-2012 09:43 AM

Welcome to the forum. :)

red6spd 01-12-2012 10:12 AM

My local shop will install a GTM STG1 TT, OS Giken Clutch, LW Flywheel, tune, oil cooler and I'm sure I'm missing something for about 14k. OP are you ready to spend this much. And you still need to get exhaust, gauges, and whatever else you may need.

DIGItonium 01-25-2012 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Footloose301 (Post 1486767)
^well did you?:stirthepot:

What turbos? ;)

Ron 01-25-2012 07:56 AM

I really don't want to know how much I've spent on all the parts for my build.. money is what ur gonna need..

Alchemy 01-25-2012 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1485376)
Money

Damn, I clicked on this thread to type "a fat wallet" you beat me good sir:tiphat:

VQStryker 01-25-2012 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 1486921)
My local shop will install a GTM STG1 TT, OS Giken Clutch, LW Flywheel, tune, oil cooler and I'm sure I'm missing something for about 14k. OP are you ready to spend this much. And you still need to get exhaust, gauges, and whatever else you may need.

stage 2 plus other things have put me at about $18k :/ it's amazing how it starts to pile up.

roplusbee 01-25-2012 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 1486921)
My local shop will install a GTM STG1 TT, OS Giken Clutch, LW Flywheel, tune, oil cooler and I'm sure I'm missing something for about 14k. OP are you ready to spend this much. And you still need to get exhaust, gauges, and whatever else you may need.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 1508071)
I really don't want to know how much I've spent on all the parts for my build.. money is what ur gonna need..

Quote:

Originally Posted by VQStryker (Post 1508147)
stage 2 plus other things have put me at about $18k :/ it's amazing how it starts to pile up.

Ron, VQStryker, and I have similar builds (although I went with Greddy). Am am sure that I hit 20k in parts/labor/tuning, but I had to be a little different and go with some "interesting" products......

Whatever you think your budget is, put that together and an OMFG WTF fund as well. My budget was actually 23k (came in under budget) and I have a dedicated CC with a nicely sized limit for the WTF fund.





Turbos..........what turbos :stirthepot:

DIGItonium 01-25-2012 11:11 AM

Ditto... I spent enough money to get a cheap used GT-R or a bunch of nicer faster cars, but I'm not too crazy about anything else out there.

It definitely hungers for more power... hopefully in a few more weeks. :)

Ron 01-25-2012 11:16 AM

Hey Rob, so you spent more than I did yet I'm gonna be faster? :stirthepot:

tower74 01-25-2012 11:22 AM

I'm hoping to stop at 18k but who knows that's only 2k away. Damn expensive hobby.

Ron 01-25-2012 11:36 AM

ouch 18k for STS.. kinda defeats the purpose of going with them in the first place :( .. IMO

erkthejerk73 01-25-2012 12:04 PM

how have you spent 16k on an sts kit so far?

Footloose301 01-25-2012 12:25 PM

He must have missed the memo that said you didn't need two turbos if they're rear mounted.

roplusbee 01-25-2012 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 1508426)
Hey Rob, so you spent more than I did yet I'm gonna be faster? :stirthepot:

Well the Greddy is priced a little higher than the GTM when you include everything to make it turnkey. I did go with Competition Clutch instead of OS Giken and some other custom stuff. I did round up a bit, but not by much. Hopefully I can keep up with you at the very least, lol........:ugh2:

VQStryker 01-25-2012 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roplusbee (Post 1508293)
Ron, VQStryker, and I have similar builds (although I went with Greddy). Am am sure that I hit 20k in parts/labor/tuning, but I had to be a little different and go with some "interesting" products......

Whatever you think your budget is, put that together and an OMFG WTF fund as well. My budget was actually 23k (came in under budget) and I have a dedicated CC with a nicely sized limit for the WTF fund.





Turbos..........what turbos :stirthepot:

:rofl2: :tup:

blackonorange 01-25-2012 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tower74 (Post 1508437)
I'm hoping to stop at 18k but who knows that's only 2k away. Damn expensive hobby.

Whhattt!?!?

Ron 01-25-2012 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roplusbee (Post 1508530)
Well the Greddy is priced a little higher than the GTM when you include everything to make it turnkey. I did go with Competition Clutch instead of OS Giken and some other custom stuff. I did round up a bit, but not by much. Hopefully I can keep up with you at the very least, lol........:ugh2:

I was messing with ya lol. What custom stuff??


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