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cdoxp800 10-24-2011 05:12 PM

Jtran Studios low mount single turbo setup completed!
 
Sorry to do do this but though you all would like to see.

Jtran Studios low mount single turbo setup completed! - MY350Z.COM Forums

theDreamer 10-24-2011 05:40 PM

I will wait to see more info.

JB-370z 10-24-2011 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1374866)
I will wait to see more info.

You do that :happydance:

theDreamer 10-24-2011 05:53 PM

Ok JB I will ask my questions:

Why are you re-using Stillen Gen 3 piping?
Is the piping viable for the the extra air being pushed through?
How has cooling been? Not just oil, but water temps?

shaun66 10-24-2011 08:18 PM

Kewl. Looks realy kewl.

Nixlimited 10-24-2011 09:29 PM

I'm trying to understand that manifold piping going to the hot-side of the turbo. It looks as if it has to make a 270 degree turn at one point, right into oncoming air from the other side of the engine. Maybe I am not seeing it right, but that seems terribly inefficient.

98intrigue 10-24-2011 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 1375257)
I'm trying to understand that manifold piping going to the hot-side of the turbo. It looks as if it has to make a 270 degree turn at one point, right into oncoming air from the other side of the engine. Maybe I am not seeing it right, but that seems terribly inefficient.

It doesn't look much worse than mine
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1.../IMG_6206R.jpg

Red__Zed 10-24-2011 09:55 PM

hmmm

Ron 10-24-2011 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1374895)
Ok JB I will ask my questions:

Why are you re-using Stillen Gen 3 piping?
Is the piping viable for the the extra air being pushed through?
How has cooling been? Not just oil, but water temps?

-They re-used stillen piping to save money I guess.
-It's not but they are compensating by using upgraded MAFs
-Don't know lol

theDreamer 10-24-2011 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 1375404)
-They re-used stillen piping to save money I guess.
-It's not but they are compensating by using upgraded MAFs
-Don't know lol

Custom piping is not that expensive if already are making that much for this turbo.
My concern is the stillen setup was designed & tested for a single purpose, whether you upgrade the MAF still questions the structure of the pipe. Also, how did they merge from gen 3 piping to custom?

Ron 10-24-2011 10:52 PM

u know what they say.. every penny counts. I say lets wait on O&G and see what he posts.

Nixlimited 10-25-2011 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 98intrigue (Post 1375283)
It doesn't look much worse than mine
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1.../IMG_6206R.jpg

Right, but see how your pipes come together such that both exhaust flows are pointed in the same direction? It appears to me that in the picture of the Jtran setup that the exhaust flows are actually opposing each other at a sharp bend before heading towards the turbine.

O&G 10-25-2011 11:07 AM

Woah, I was waiting for the Dynojet numbers on Thursday to do a writeup, etc... Stillen pipes were used because we wanted to get the car to the show in time, we had upgraded MAFS at the shop so we just threw them in. It's my bday today so I'm taking off work, going to the shop to get some better pics of hotside piping, etc.... The car sounds amazing, I'm happy, saving to build motor and up boost!

O&G 10-25-2011 11:07 AM

I guess they did a writeup on our local forum! lol

O&G 10-25-2011 11:16 AM

We just finished my single turbo build at JTran Studios in Houston, Texas. This isn’t my first rodeo, I had a 2003 twin turbo 350z for many years, fully built, 550whp, etc… First, I’d like to thank Johnny, Amber, Mike and lil man Lakai at JTran Studios for everything they’ve done for me and my Z’s over the years, best peoples I know ! Shout out to 98intrigue here on the forums for stepping out of the box and tackling all the headaches first, made my life a lot easier, thanks buddy! I decided to go single because I’ve had twins before, I wanted something different. Johnny has designed and made crazy power with single kits on the DE and HR VQ platforms so I thought I’d let him have a go on my 40th Anniversary 370Z. We decided on a mid-mount set-up off the transmission for a few reasons, less exhaust piping, I eventually want to go around the track with this car and didn’t want to worry about heat in the engine bay. There isn’t a kit like this (for our cars) out there, it’s similar to the APS single turbo system for the 350z, but better of course  It also gives a stealthier look to the engine bay because you can’t see the working end. Johnny chose the water-cooled CT4-6265 because of the mounting location and also to do something different. We did fabricate the system so a wide variety of turbos can be installed for power needs, etc… Johnny is building a jig for this turbo setup so he can reproduce them for the 370z and G37. There is NO timeframe on this at the moment, but I can say he will be able to reproduce this kit for customers. When I build a car I’m big on supporting mods for the cooling system, drive train, suspension, heat protection, etc… so you will see that reflected in my parts list. I like to make sure once the cars done I can play for a little bit w/o having worry about it/work on it. I am already planning on building the motor sometime next year so I want it to last till then! Parts list below:

• CSF Aluminum Radiator/Condenser combo
• Mishimoto Thermostat, hoses, etc…
• Mishimoto Oil Catch Can
• Greddy Radiator Breather Tank
• Greddy Info-Meter Touch (boost, oil pressure, OBDII, etc…)
• GTM fuel pressure regulator adapter, AEM regulator w/ gauge
• GTM 370z fuel pump kit
• GTM 1 in, 2 out intercooler
• GTM Engine Mounts
• GTM upgraded CSC
• TiAL Wastegate (sitting around 5psi)
• TiAL Q BOV x 2
• DW 650cc injectors for now, waiting on Injector Dynamics 720cc
• Thermo-Tec heat protection, Turbo Blanket, wraps, etc…
• Comp Turbo CT4-6265
• Z1 Motorsports oil cooler kit
• Up-Rev tune by Johnny @ JTran Studios
• JWT Flywheel w/ ACT Clutch
• B&M SS
• Drop Engineering 09+ Nissan 370Z Transmission Mount
• HKS Hypermax coilovers in conjunction w/ H&R spacers w/ custom JTran eyeball alignment
• HKS 170mm Hi-Power muffler, 3” single exhaust and MBRP Resonator
• HKS 1 step colder spark plugs
• Innovative wideband A/F Gauge

O&G 10-25-2011 11:18 AM

more pics later, all I have rite now are shitty cell phone pics, I added a few more to my album of the car, I'll post more later, with Dynojet numbers as well. The collector has a baffle in it to prevent the exhaust gas from having a tumbling effect.

O&G 10-25-2011 11:23 AM

Highest cooling temps I've seen are around 210! OK, I'm out talk to yall later, time to DRIVE!

car8oy281 10-25-2011 01:15 PM

two inch schedule 10 pipe to a two into one collector with a divider plate between the collector to keep the exhaust from tumbling before merging all the way to a 2.5 to 3 inch concentric reducer on a t4 flange. schedule 10 pipe is used due to the strength of the material compared to traditional gauged stainless. both feed pipes are asymmetrical so by therory it should scavenge the same between the two banks. that should answer the questioning on the hot side piping.

Nixlimited 10-25-2011 05:51 PM

I'm confused, is the pipe headed to the T4 flange 3" going to 2.5" or the opposite? I would think you would not want to increase ID right before the turbine since you would get a pressure drop and loss of velocity.

car8oy281 10-26-2011 11:00 AM

opposite. 2.5 inch to 3 inch. pressure drop and loss of velocity is minimal. might make a difference in spool by 100 to 150 rpm but nothing crazy. car makes full boost right around 4200 to 4300. gate is being pushed open prematurely due to wastegate location. i would rather it hold boost solid then spike then come back down.

Nixlimited 10-26-2011 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by car8oy281 (Post 1377839)
opposite. 2.5 inch to 3 inch. pressure drop and loss of velocity is minimal. might make a difference in spool by 100 to 150 rpm but nothing crazy. car makes full boost right around 4200 to 4300. gate is being pushed open prematurely due to wastegate location. i would rather it hold boost solid then spike then come back down.

What's the rough area of the opening of a T4 flange? Assuming a 3" ID pipe has 7.06 square inches of opening.

Mr&Mrs 10-26-2011 01:53 PM

In for updates.

O&G 10-26-2011 01:55 PM

Dynojet numbers tomorrow, with exact boost reading, compared to the Mustang dyno we used to tune the car. We just completed our second oil/gas well in east Texas so between work and this turbo project time is very tight. I'll get back to you with exact pipe dimensions, flanges, collectors, etc.. as soon as I can.

O&G 10-26-2011 03:25 PM

2.5 inch to 3 inch reducer into T4 flange

LafitteZ 10-26-2011 05:44 PM

9500 for a single turbo that we dont really know much about seems a little high? Or is it 9500 installed and tuned?

cdoxp800 10-26-2011 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LafitteZ (Post 1378854)
9500 for a single turbo that we dont really know much about seems a little high? Or is it 9500 installed and tuned?


Thats installed and tuned

O&G 10-26-2011 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LafitteZ (Post 1378854)
9500 for a single turbo that we dont really know much about seems a little high? Or is it 9500 installed and tuned?

Thats droped off and picked up under 10k. Pretty good deal imo.

Boost isnt cheep. Single turbo kits can make as much as twins. Its just a matter of what you want. If your really interested just call the shop. Pretty sure johnny will answer any questions you have. Its just another alternative for our platform. I know hes doing one on a G37 next but these are all local customers who know johnnys work and history with the VQ. Dyno graphs will be posted tomorrow.

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Red__Zed 10-26-2011 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cdoxp800 (Post 1378869)
Thats installed and tuned

that is super cheap. i guess i wouldn't be that frustrated with the styling at that cost.

O&G 10-26-2011 08:22 PM

Website is jtranstudio.com and questions can be sent via email to jtranbuilt@yahoo.com

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fuct 10-27-2011 10:15 AM

full boost at 4200rpm with a single or 3000rpm with GTM's TT kit. hmmmmmm

LafitteZ 10-27-2011 11:32 AM

i have TT. For that price for a single I would have definitly went that route.

O&G 10-27-2011 12:03 PM

Dynojet rescheaduled for tomorrow due to the cold front hitting with rain and hi hummidity. We figured numbers will be more accurate with decent weather. Ill keep yall posted.

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O&G 10-27-2011 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by fuct (Post 1379917)
full boost at 4200rpm with a single or 3000rpm with GTM's TT kit. hmmmmmm

Sam and GTM are great they put out awesome products and helped us with this build as well. Yes smaller turbos spool faster. Like i said from the get go, I wanted sonething diferent. This build is exactly what i wanted and thats all that matters. The sound this kit makes is crazy. All you hear is turbo. Makes me smile!

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Nixlimited 10-27-2011 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O&G (Post 1380207)
Sam and GTM are great they put out awesome products and helped us with this build as well. Yes smaller turbos spool faster. Like i said from the get go, I wanted sonething diferent. This build is exactly what i wanted and thats all that matters. The sound this kit makes is crazy. All you hear is turbo. Makes me smile!

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Actually, that's one thing that I missed when I test drove the GTM turbo setup. I really like a lot of turbo whine.

O&G 10-27-2011 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 1380269)
Actually, that's one thing that I missed when I test drove the GTM turbo setup. I really like a lot of turbo whine.

I know what u mean. In my greddy/CJM 350 all i could hear was wastegate. I just heard Haltech mite be releasing a computer at SEMA to controll cams, etc.... Hopefully GTM will release their GTR manifold too!

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car8oy281 10-27-2011 01:30 PM

full boost at 3000 rpm on twin t25 flanged turbos with log manifolds isnt hard to do. we have a g35 here that is fully built that has twin 2860rs on a jwt kit that makes full boost at 3000 but maxed out at 550 whp. if we would have done t4 divided setup, then the boost wouldve came on a bit earlier. We will have video and dyno chart up tomorrow of the dynojet tomorrow. rained a bit here in houston today and the car needs an alignment

Ron 10-27-2011 01:40 PM

what's the max psi you would push through a gt2860rs before it stops being efficient?

ihatepotholes 10-27-2011 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 1380388)
what's the max psi you would push through a gt2860rs before it stops being efficient?

i would guess around 11-13psi?

either way, it's more than the stock motor could handle.

SAM@GTM 10-27-2011 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 1380388)
what's the max psi you would push through a gt2860rs before it stops being efficient?

We have gone over 20 psi and made over 600 RWHP and still had room to go,on a VQ35DE engine. A VHR engine can do better . I'll dig up a compressor map and post up.

Sam

Ron 10-27-2011 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ihatepotholes (Post 1380432)
i would guess around 11-13psi?

either way, it's more than the stock motor could handle.

uuuh no.. 12psi with the right octane is good for over 500whp which seems to be right on the limit for this block in stock form.

I know people pushing/maxing gt2860rs at 24psi. My questions is, at what point do they become inefficient.


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